Why Gun Control is doomed to fail......

And I agree with you wholeheartedly. Not that you need my support

 

Being an FFL bestows no magic on an individual. We are a country of citizens, with a right, paid for the system with tax dollars, and should be able to use the tools available. The denial of that is proof enough to me that the objective pushed for a UBC is not all the BS stated, but for a longer range strategy of disarmament, one laid out by Shields in '86.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brady_Campaign

Everything else posted on UBCs is tainted by that reveal, pure and simple.

 

you of course miss the issue. its not that we insist we have special rights

we note that the federal government doesn't have many of the powers that people like you pretend it should have.

and when opinions are based on ignorance, or outright dishonesty, said opinions are not entitled to any respect

YES you have the same ability to post an opinion here as those of us who actually understand the issue and post without evasion or obfuscation. But you don't have a "right" for us to respect or support opinions that are not supported by logic or fact

 

and what does that proof other than how ignorant many people are? are you trying to tell us that because something is popular among the ignorant it must work.

if 90% of the people thought smoking weed would cure brain cancer does that mean your doctor should prescribe a bong to you if you were so afflicted?

 

Why should anyone have to pay additional fees? I suppose, another solution is for all of us to pay the roughly $200 every three years and all become FFL's and have access to weapons they can handle.
I have considered it... oh wait, that means you intend to sell guns,... more guns on the market.

 

But, you have to look at how the issue is presented in the polls .... it is never revealed that UBCs require gun registration.

 

nor are people told that for 24 years we have had the brady bill and not one study can find ANY evidence that the required background checks have decreased violent crime in any way whatsoever

 

Because a majority vote overrules the actual fact, yes?

 

Find a single time I have lied...you won't, but go ahead and try.

 

There was never the intent to require private sales to have background checks. Never.

 

Okay big boy. I made a mistake. Now, how many have YOU made? And, although Gallatin was not technically a "founding father," he was supported by them and his views accurately reflected their views.

So, tell us, how many mistakes have you made? You've had your a** ground into the mud by facts, yet you continue to dabble in treason and sedition; lies and deliberate half truths. You run like a scalded dog and stoop to the emotion laden buzz words and terms that people use when they run out of legitimate arguments. So, tell us again how infallible you are.

Hey, I wasn't completely wrong. Gallatin was a founding father - I never specified as to what... just using YOUR kind of illogical reasoning that prevents you from answering other posters questions.

 

Let's change that

 

I sure cannot and I am rather well versed on the areas you post on,

 

I'd rather lose an arguement

 

Unconstitutional on a federal level. and it won't do anything useful

why do you push laws that won't decrease violent crime unless your real motivations are something OTHER than crime control?

 

You're probably right. Nobody would claim you as a son. Test tube baby maybe.

If your mother knew what you were doing today, she'd probably give me the okay to take a leather strap to you for that level of immaturity.

 

Let's not

 

There it is folks.....lol

 

Not much chance of that on this forum. the only argument that could have any impact is a person arguing against gun rights admitting that his goal is what we know it is-political retribution against gun owners and the NRA for calling BS on the claims that "gun control is a valid substitute for crime control"

 

There what is... besides an honest answer to a younger member of the board getting his cookies off by following in your footsteps, trolling for the sake of trolling... and taking a beating in the process. It just needs to manifest itself in parental disciplining.

 

There it is again folks......lol

 

The only way to influence people toward the left's objectives, particularly undermining Constitutional rights is deception.

 

Nope.

When you are trying to pass a law, you want to pass a law that you can get a majority
vote behind otherwise: you have nothing.

With the Brady bill, the background check covered the majority of gun sales, and found
the full- throated support of Ronald Reagan and eventually the Republican Congress.

Bills passed in the USA can and are modified - such as to close the giant loophole that
exposing Americans to felons and prohibited firearm buyers to do an end around the FFL
dealers that would not sell them firearms.

 

The only way to influence people toward the right's objectives, particularly undermining Constitutional rights, is deception.[

 

which is why gun banners work incrementally. Can you imagine what would happen to a presidential candidate who came out and said

I WANT TO BAN AND CONFISCATE all privately owned firearms. The leader singer of the Dead Kennedys would have a better chance of being elected.

now if they come out and say

1) we want a universal background check

2) and a couple years later-well that cannot be enforced so we want gun registration

3) and when that doesn't work, we need to limit people buying one gun a year

4) one gun every five years

5) no semi auto rifles

you see that the plan is to desensitize people to the gun banner creeping agenda and by the time people figure out what they are really up to its too late to do much about it

its like the old adage about boiling a frog. You try dropping a frog in scalding water, its reflexes are so fast that it will leap out of the water the second it touches the hot liquid. But if you put a frog in a pot of water that is a temperature it finds comfortable and turn up the heat, you will kill it before it figures out its cooked