Why Gun Control is doomed to fail......

once again, there is no evidence that the law you cite has done ANYTHING to decrease violent crime. Reagan supported that law AFTER he left office because of his friend Jim Brady. Mario Cuomo claimed Reagan was SENILE before he left office (Cuomo noted about Reagan, "a fish rots from its head first")

given few felons actually buy firearms from people who do not know they are felons, what good is this law other than

1) to placate people who aren't smart enough to know that this law is a feel good placebo

2) to serve as a stalking horse for registration because you cannot enforce a private sale background check since no one knows when someone bought or sold the gun

Finally, do you believe saying a law is popular overrides the law being worthless or based on a dishonest motivation?

 

Thanks for reminding me of offensive terms used by those who
what to block background checks.

 

Because he wasn't president when the bill was passed.

 

I truly believe that those who want to pass laws that ONLY change the legal status or legal environment for those who can own guns legally, are in the long run gun banners. If you buy into the nonsense that say telling a law abiding citizen he cannot own a 30 round magazine or a Semi auto rifle (which of course makes one a gun banner) so that this will stop "criminals from getting guns" then they have already made the decision that banning additional items from the law abiding will also deplete the supply to criminals

its a faith based belief that if a little doesn't work, more will

 

He opposed the Bill while he was in office.

 

That's funny, the Brady Bill was first introduced in March 1991, after he was no longer president.

 

I will remind the powers that be how offensive terms used by people who oppose the
Universal Background Checks for all gun sales are almost exactly like the terms they
complain most about that I have used.

And how a dialogue will not be successful unless everyone takes a break from terms
others find offensive.

 

REALLY?

from WIKI

On February 4, 1987, the Brady Act was introduced in the U.S. Congress for the first time.

Let me see-who was president on February 4, 1987?

from the same article


From the inception of the NICS system in 1998 through 2014, more than 202 million Brady background checks have been conducted.[21]During this period approximately 1.2 million attempted firearm purchases were blocked by the Brady background check system, or about 0.5 percent.[22] The most common reason for denials are previous felony convictions.[22]

Prosecution and conviction of violators of the Brady Act, however, is extremely rare. During the first 17 months of the Act, only seven individuals were convicted. In the first year of the Act, 250 cases were referred for prosecution and 217 of them were rejected.[23]

A 2000 study found that the implementation of the Brady Act was associated with "reductions in the firearm suicide rate for persons aged 55 years or older but not with reductions in homicide rates or overall suicide rates."[24]

202 million-and the anti gun posters tell us gun ownership is DECREASING and the suicide decrease was attributed to the waiting period-NOT THE BACKGROUND CHECK

 

if you support an assault weapon ban, doesn't that mean you are a gun banner?

 

Do you find the term "banner" offensive? Was this a recent development?

 

Actual fact has not been demonstrated on the part of yourself. No matter how many claims you make to the contrary, you have been proven as being incorrect in your argumentative position. You deliberately made a false claim, and were forced to admit to such when addressing another claim.

 

Is gun nut offensive?

 

There is nothing offensive about the term being used to describe yourself.

 

doesn't that term apply equally to those who hate guns? but its not accurate, Gun banner is accurate when used to describe someone who tries or supports gun bans.

 

Is that anything like the barrel nut on a Savage or the castle nut on an AR?

 

I knew you would be afraid to answer

 

From WIKI:

The original legislation was introduced into the House of Representatives by Representative Charles E. Schumer [3] in March 1991,[1] but was never brought to a vote. The bill was reintroduced by Rep. Schumer on February 22, 1993 and the final version was passed on November 11, 1993. It was signed into law by President Bill Clinton on November 30, 1993 and the law went into effect on February 28, 1994. The Act was named after James Brady, who was shot by John Hinckley Jr. during an attempted assassination of President Ronald Reagan on March 30, 1981


An act is an act and a bill is a bill. The bill introduced in 1987 was never an act because it wasn't passed.

 

its interesting, I have asked you dozens of questions and I don't recall much in the way of any straight answers. Gun nut is a term that is an attempt to demonize a group-be it gun owners (most common) or gun haters (less common but perhaps a bit more accurate). Gun banner, on the other hand, is an accurate term when applied to someone who seeks to ban guns or supports incremental legislation they intend to help facilitate gun bans.

I consider many incremental steps to be equivalent to what NADA calls "masking agents" those drugs might not illegally enhance performance in an athlete but they are taken to HIDE performance enhancing drugs in athletes. So if you oppose athletes DOPING, you oppose them using pharmaceuticals that facilitate DOPING.

If you oppose gun banning, you oppose incremental steps that are used to achieve banning or desensitizing people to gun banning down the road. and if you are a gun banner and you know that a gun ban will not pass right now, you almost always support laws that get this nation closer to a gun ban

 

I'm not the one who started crying about offensive terms that began with the
compound term "gun 'blank'.

And any other the other terms here that were much more offensive.

So now you can deal with it. . . or not.

I am sure those who cannot will be dealt with.

I have nothing more to say about it.

 

Since some firearms enthusiasts referred to themselves as such, I'd say that they don't find it offensive. It's in the eye of the beholder. Do gun banners wish to ban guns?

 

Gosh.

I guess you think it's okay when you do it.

I don't think it is.

 

Yes. I am not a gun banner. Are gun nuts.....nuts? Lol

 

An 'attempt to possess' is not the same as 'possess'

EG:
Conviction for possession of a firearm: 10 to 20 years imprisonment
at hard labor, without the benefit of probation, parole, or a suspended
sentence, and a fine of $1,000 to $5,000

Conviction for attempt to possess firearm: up to 7.5 years imprisonment
at hard labor and a fine of $500 to $2,500
.

I can 't fix.... ya...

 

Here is your failure. the original version was introduced in 1987. You apparently forget to read that part of WIKI. that went NOWHERE because REAGAN was not going to SIGN IT and the senate was held by the GOP before January 1987 So when the Dems got control of the senate in 1987, the anti gun movement introduced the Brady Bill but it wasn't going to have enough support to get by a VETO. Bush would have VETOED it too.

what was the ACT that was introduced and what does that MEAN TO YOU other than an attempt to get legislation passed

are you saying that the terms ACT and BILL are materially different?

from the same article


after the Brady Act was originally proposed in 1987, the National Rifle Association (NRA) mobilized to defeat the legislation, spending millions of dollars in the process. While the bill eventually did pass in both chambers of the United States Congress, the NRA was able to win an important concession: the final version of the legislation provided that, in 1998, the five-day waiting period for handgun sales would be replaced by an instant computerized background check that involved no waiting periods.

 

Gosh, if only you could back up something you have said today.

Or yesterday.

Or a week ago.

When people "admit" things, they make quotes.