Why Gun Control is doomed to fail......

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  1. Turtledude

    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    did you support the Clinton AWB or the hughes amendment?
     
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    Didn't you claim that you'd support any and all gun control legislation in the hopes of passing any?
     
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    Sure. But I don't want to ban guns. I mean I will....I just don't want to. Lol.

    So are you nuts?
     
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    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    yes he did, I saw him post that. He said if gun owners don't support some of the stupid (my term) incremental steps that are designed to get us closer to gun bans, he'd support a complete gun ban
     
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    Define "nuts".
     
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    You already said many claim the title.
     
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    So I should ask them? Do gun banners have a different definition perhaps?
     
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    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    more on the Brady Bill or ACT

    http://www.lectlaw.com/def/b071.htm

    The Brady Act, passed in 1993,

    it was originally introduced in 1987 WHILE REAGAN was president. it never was enacted. It languished while Bush was president, he threatened to veto it based on whether it was attached to a crime bill. IT WASNT ENACTED
    until an anti gun president took office. pretending that the BRADY BILL or BRADY ACT was not before congress until after Reagan left office is completely false
     
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    I don't know. Should I ask them?
     
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    And was morphed into other bills and amendments and did not stand on its own.

    Are you saying Jim Brady wasn't Reagan's friend in 1987 but was his friend in 1991?
     
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    Passed in 1993, with the endorsement of Ronald Reagan.

    Mentioned above.
     
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    Different acts.

    And I was quite clear on when I said it passed.

    And I didn't pretend it wasn't endorsed by Reagan.
     
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    I would suggest if you use a term that you know you meant to insult the
    person you used it with, it would be an insult.
     
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    The terms ACT and Bill are materially different when the ACT passed is
    materially different from the bill proposed and not only not passed but
    not acted upon.

    PS: I am not responsible for the sloppy writing of others.
     
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    PPS: a typical wikipedia article that has a thousand words has probably 600 authors.
     
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    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    what does that have to do with my points or more importantly the FACTS? the fact is, Reagan opposed the Brady bill when he was of sound mind and IN OFFICE
     
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    introduced originally during the Reagan administration. once again, your post has no relevance nor does it refute anything I said

    you were INCORRECT when you pretended that the brady bill or brady act (act and bill have been used interchangeably in the historical discussions of that law) was not introduced when Reagan was in office. i proved that it was and you, rather than conceding your obvious and patent error, diverted and evaded
     
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    more obfuscation. My point was this

    REAGAN opposed a waiting period for guns when it was FIRST PROPOSED when he was IN office and when it WAS FIRST INTRODUCED in CONGRESS while he WAS PRESIDENT.

    he did not support the main point of the proposed bill UNTIL HE WAS OUT OF OFFICE and most clearly SENILE

    you have not refuted that and you are trying to pretend that Reagan never had to deal with the BRADY LEGISLATION when he was in office

    you are wrong, I am right, end of story
     
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    Reagan endorsed the Brady bill.

    "I'm a member of the NRA. And my position on the right to bear arms
    is well known. But I support the Brady bill and I urge the Congress to
    enact it without delay. It's just plain common sense that there be a
    waiting period [7 days] to allow local law enforcement officials to conduct
    background checks on those who wish to buy a handgun."
     
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    "It's just plain common sense that there be a waiting period [7 days] to allow
    local law enforcement officials to conduct background checks on those who
    wish to buy a handgun."
     
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    I'm sure the bangers think so. LMAO.
     
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    Reagan opposed open carry of firearms in 1967.

    Senile a long time I guess.
     
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    everytime one of your erroneous claims are shown to be contrary to fact, rather than own up to your mistake you divert and evade. The only issue was did Reagan support waiting periods while President. He did not
     
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    When he endorsed it, what political office did he hold?
     
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    again, why do you deny the obvious, I freely admit that when reagan left office he later supported various gun control bills. He was senile and softheaded at the time. You also pretend that Reagan supported the Brady bill in office. that has NO BASIS in fact and your constant evasions won't help you overcome the fact that you were WRONG
     
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