Mass Shooting in Vegas

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  1. TOG 6

    TOG 6 Well-Known Member

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    It's easy in Canada, too.
     
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    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    So now we're supposed to feel good because we're not quite as badly off as Syria, South Sudan and the Congo? I would hope it would go without saying that my comparison is to other DEVELOPED nations that don't have actual WARS going on at present.

    And I don't recall any mass shootings of this magnitude in Mexico recently. Matter of fact, I don't think there have been any this bad in any of the nations you mentioned for some time, though no doubt there have been war losses in all nations that have wars going on at preset.
     
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    More unsupportable nonsense.
     
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    Huh. Ironic, eh?
    There's no sound argument for doing so, and doing so would violate the constitution.
    You just bit into your apple pie and found an orange. False equivalent..
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    conservatives seems to always vote, even when they have to plug their noses and vote for someone like Trump, Democrats on the other-hand seem to have issues getting to the polls - but I agree, gun-control is not a winning fight for them, I do not know a single liberal against the right to bear arms, I see them here and on tv, but in real life I have seen none, same with anti-chociers, I know many republicans, many are against abortion, but would not be for denying others that right to choose for themselves
     
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    Wow. Melodrama much?
     
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    Hotels don't install cameras in hotel rooms. That would be an invasion of privacy. The cameras in the hallways will show if anyone exited or entered that room, other than the shooter. They aren't the poor quality you believe them to be.

    A big windfall from a mass shooting? I didn't know there was usually a big windfall for anyone in these situations. Who was the beneficiary of the big windfall after Sandy Hook?
     
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    Not according to the FBI's definition of the term.
     
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    First pictures out, looks like an AR-15 with a bump stock.
     
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    Oh look at you, deliberately misunderstanding his point so you could try to counter it.
    People use a firearm to protect their rights tens of thousands of times per year.
     
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    This man is a mystery, no question.

    People who claim he wasn't diseased in the brain are not facing reality. Nobody of sound mind does what he did.
     
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    I'm sorry you hate the freedom of speech and the freedom to associate.
    What fascist dictatorship did you say you wanted to live in again?
     
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    I just googled the definition for the first time. Militias are always associated with an emergency, and are called forth. They aren't meant to be what today's militias are, which seem more like gun clubs. They are supposed to be raised by the community or region. Ordinary citizens with guns are a prerequisite to militias, which the founding fathers thought were essential to the security of a free state.
     
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    Referring to firearms as bang-bangs make you seem like stole your mommy's iPhone, hiding in your closet, and posting here between taking in strings of nude pygmy pics from NatGeo.
     
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    I've never seen a closed-circuit camera system yet that yields a good image -- especially when covering a large or long span of distance. For many years I worked with many different and very large surveillance systems. No matter how expensive they are, they're all mostly crap.

    Sandy Hook? Oh, don't you remember the über-liberal, radical gun-hater furor over that?! The Sandy Hook "fires" are still smoldering: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...milies-react-vegas-shooting-article-1.3536608
    Obama jumped on that like a duck on a waterbug, and the whole weight of the Left went into a full-court press trying to undermine self-defense in the United States. They'll be back at it now more than ever after 'Vegas', as we are already seeing....

    Thank God that we didn't elect Hillary Clinton last November, because if we had, she'd have stuck another piece of activist, hyperliberal trash on the Supreme Court, giving the America-hating, radical Left the leverage they'd need to completely cripple the ability of Americans to defend ourselves.... Obama gave us two of these creatures... Hillary would have contributed a third. Thank God for Neil Gorsuch! So far, that's the ONE thing I can praise Trump for highly....
     
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    Fallacy: appeal to ignorance/dishoensty
    The 'good guy with a gun' discussion refers to people with concealed handguns reacting to and taking down shooters inside schools, theaters, whatnot. In this situation, handguns are useless.
    You either do not understand this, or do understand it and hope no one will notice.
     
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    Terrorists also stockpile guns. I haven't checked the news today but as of yesterday, there were 4 indicators of terrorism:
    1) Daesh has recently made Las Vegas a target in their propaganda.
    2) Daesh claimed responsibility.
    3) Overseas travel by significant other + mass shooting usually equals terrorism.
    4) He shot from the Mandalay, and the real Mandalay has experienced a genocide of Muslims in recent weeks.

    More indicators for terrorism than anything else at this point.
     
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    I applaud you in your mastery of unsupportable nonsense.
     
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    You would not need a good image to prove your suggestion that someone exited the room after killing Maddock before any officers got to the apartment
     
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    He certainly could have.
    And note: Not all of the wounded people were hit by gunfire.
     
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    What kind of ****ing simple **** is going on here?

    The article is EXPLICITLY about how the good guy with a gun argument does not work in that situation and you said that the article is fallacious because...the good guy with a gun argument does not work in that situation.
     
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    Prove this to be true.
    Be sure to cite your sources.
     
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    The steps you seek, whatever they are, are not reasonable, as it is impossible to prevent someone who can legally buy a gun from doing so.
     
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    Already asked him. He didn't.
     
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    Don't feed him. He's pleased a white man killed a bunch of people.
     
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