Professor Raoult Releases Results of New Hydroxychloroquine Treatment Study on 1061 Patients

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  1. truth and justice

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    The drug is of zero use on someone who is close to needing a ventilator! It's amazing how many of those proclaiming how marvelous this drug is have no knowledge of how it's supposed to work even if it did work
     
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    What is the recommended dosage of this drug on a person showing mild symptoms? 8 people in a small study died after 5 days when given a dose that is given to malaria victims on day 1.
     
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    There is no published dosage data.
    You want doctors to give out the drug on the whim outside hospital to otherwise healthy people? Who is going to pay for all the negligence claims?
     
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    Can you quote that? ...No, no you cant.
     
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    But you want the drug to be prescribed to patients outside hospital. These patients are only showing mild symptoms and will not be monitored for any toxicity effects.
     
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    Is the recommended dosage on the box? Does the drug information leaflet even mention Covid? Is there any published data on recommended dosage? Where do you think doctors get their information from? So who do you think will be liable for any litigation?
     
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    Last I heard they are administering drugs by IV to people on ventilators now. They are slowly learning.
     
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    People on ventilators have always had drugs administered by IV for many reasons, one being they need to be kept comatosed. But this does not apply to hydroxychloroquine as it is of no use at that stage.

    There is still research on best way of delivering nebulisers and inhaler drugs as the airways are effectively blocked
     
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    A Physician that administers anything "on whim" is a quack. You've got a rather low opinion of MD's.
     
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    Remdesivir, afaik from the TV, is being administered to patients on ventilators and is saving some. If true that is great news.

    In the middle of a massive mess like corona, they got to keep trying new things, because people are dying by the thousands.
     
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    Hospitals don't treat patients, doctors do.
     
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    They haven't got any published data to base the dosage on and the patient won't be monitored if he/she is not in a hospital.
     
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    Hospitals house patients, supplies, equipment, etc., and support doctors in their treatment of patients. Nothing happens without a doctor's order. The physician is the supreme authority.
     
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    I haven't seen any clinical evidence that Remdesivir works. If it works then that is great news but it is the same company that hyped Tamiflu which also received great publicity but there were better drugs for swine flu.

    Remdesivor has to be applied intravenously but has shown promise for those who are in serious condition. But side effects can be severe : "That being said, about 25% of patients receiving it have severe side effects, including multiple-organ dysfunction syndrome, septic shock, acute kidney injury and low blood pressure. Another 23% demonstrated evidence of liver damage on lab tests." But that has to be compared with the outcome of those who did not receive the drug and unfortunately no clinical trials have been performed yet with a control group
     
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    So?
     
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    Being an MD and being a fraud aren't mutually exclusive.
    https://edition.cnn.com/2020/04/17/us/doctor-charged-hydroxychloroquine-trump/index.html
    Feds charge doctor who cited Trump to push hydroxychloroquine 'miracle cure'
     
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    Evidence Based? Let's talk about evidence.. your post is more EVIDENCE that you only play a medical professional on the Internet. Otherwise, you'd be able to tell us about toxic drugs - like the Chemo that Jay Runner mentioned.
     
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    Doctors have given drugs off-label ever since there were on-label uses.. In the hospital and out... Only now are you concerned because Orange Man Bad.
     
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    Yep.. Drink fish tank cleaner and die... Make medical claims that aren't true and get punished... Neither of these have anything to do with anything going on in the legitimate use of hydroxychloroquine or any other helpful drug. No one has called them a miracle cure and, in the case of this doctor that did, he should be dealt with.

    His charges doesn't actually mean what he said isn't true - and I'm not saying it is true. It means it is illegal to make such claims unless the FDA (you know; Fauci's empire) agrees with you. We may later find that it is actually a miracle cure; today we just don't know. We do know it is helpful, in some cases, in relieving the pneumonia so the body can heal itself more quickly.

    From the article - and explaining why the doctor is going to go to prison:

    Smuggling is against the law.. he belongs in jail. It has nothing to do with what's happening legitimately in coronavirus cases.
     
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    That's exactly how hydroxychloroquine has been prescribed literally 5 million times a year for the past 10 years, far beyond a billion doses taken in the US alone: outside the hospital and with no monitoring for toxicity effects unless other medical history warranted it. And, no, mild coronavirus does not warrant it. Serious coronavirus might but those patients are already in the hospital.
     
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    Then you'll be making the same arguments against all of the drugs being used? Ivermectin, Remdesivir, plasma treatments, etc? I'm looking forward to your new threads or posts in this thread against using those drugs.
     
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    Well, some clearly think Internet medical wannabees should be the final authority on medical practice.
     
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    It was OK till Trump mentioned it.

    They are simple minded when it comes to Trump. If he spoke about the joys of breathing I think some would stop breathing. After they died the other hate lemmings would blame Trump for that.
     
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    If a doctor prescribes a drug to a patient that is outside the dosage specified by the manufacturer or for a disease that is not in the manufacturers list of diseases for that drug who will be sued for negligence for serious side effect?
     
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    Yes, prescribed for diseases that are listed in the drug leaflet at the specified doses. Which bit don't you understand?
     

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