Grand Jury Charges 1 in Breonna Taylor Case

If that was meant as a reply to my post, I don't see it as any sort of refutation. To the contrary, it would be a manifestation of using specific cases to judge other cases based upon nothing but superficial similarities (e.g., if your boyfriend is guilty of a crime, you are guilty as an accomplice), in other words, STEREOTYPING.

Just curious, would this principle mean that if one's wife or girlfriend cheated on that man, he would be guilty of encouraging infidelity, or as an accomplice to adultery?

 

I will give you that, it's possible.

 

one is enough. drugs are illegal

 

huh?

 

DR, then you can easily explain if the officers had a "no-knock" warrant, why they "identified themselves", yet the suspect called the police to tell them that their were people trying to get into his house ?

Now, for all of the 2A'rs out there. If someone breaks into your house without telling you who they are, would you shoot them ? Isn't that the core premise of the 2A'rs defense of having a weapon ?

The Broenna Taylor case may be about the execution of the warrant, but the core of it is about how did the police get a no-knock warrant on a house that they knew the suspect wasn't in, and hadn't been in for weeks ?

 

Well I guess we'll see in court now won't we. What we've heard, joint bank account, allowed use of HER vehicle, allowed storage in her home, and observed coming and going with the x. If none of that were true than there's a real case on how/why the warrant was filed (sounds like FISA huh). In the mean time let's riot, kill cops and burn just in case that's not true seems to be the lefty position. We all know once that dude shot the cop in the door, return fire is not only justified but expected. What we know is it was a knock warrant with a unbiased civilian witness, we know the cop was shot in the door, we know Breana was in the hall with the shooter and where she passed meaning the heard something (knock) and were waiting to kill when the cops entered side by side.

 

My comment was based on a statement made by Tucker Carlson. He said in a statement that she was suspected of warehousing "money" from the drug operations I want to see this expounded on if true as that was apparently part of the warrant. It is not my desire to cast a judgement on Taylor as getting her "just deserts". However, it is the desire of every single leftist report that Taylor, and all the others, are worthy of some kind of "Sainthood" Involvement in crime, at least to some extent, has resulted into everyone of your "martyrs" deaths. Then they receive martyr hood. Portraits of these Saints are abundant in the streets. Their memories are glorified by people that didn't even know them. They are held up as something to emulate. Not so for the many thousands of lives lost in Chicago in random shootings. It makes me sick!

When will the Democratic left find real heroes to worship? Never a kind word about the dead and wounded Police that are randomly gunned down by a group that despises their existence!

 

There are witnesses who said they did not hear that is not evidence it was not said only that they did not hear it. And we inky know what they said to reporters and others not what they said to investigators or under oath. Remember the Michael Brown shooting and all the alleged witnesses to the "hands up don't shoot, he was in the ground blah blah blah" who under oath or to investigators admitted they didn't witness anything they hadbojkg heard about it?

 

the neighbor heard the knocks...11 other people fast asleep two stores up didn't hear the knock....wow....

but these tyrants have to find some justification for jumping to conclusions and all their rioting and looting...

 

And race baiting attorney Crump this morning trying to incite the protest attacking the DA and grand jury and demanding the DA release grand jury testimony WHEN HE KNOWS the DA CANNOT release such grand jury testimony only a judge can do so.

How many millions has he gotten out of all this?

 

Some perspective:

 

I'm not sure how far this will go:

 

and he went on about how "NO JUSTICE" = the Govt said they missed up...they gave them 12 Million dollars....but a wrongful death is not always a crime

 

Having read this article...https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...anted-search-breanna-taylors-home/5706161002/
I am wanting to know about the $8000 supposedly being laundered by Taylor for her ex "boyfriend" and company.

 

Let's hope it goes far, people who make these baseless claims do so to incite violence and profit for themselves.

 

Sorry, I don't understand that answer.

 

Well, some drugs are, not all. The "association" in this case is pretty far removed.

 

Does that sentence even make sense?

 

I have 2 points I'd like to make. The first is that I respect your opinion of the reaction to the incident; but I think that it's unhelpful, & unfair, for one to let that affect their opinion of the raid, itself (not to mention to gauge the entire, "Democratic left," based on the worst actions of some protesters). Yet this is where the conversation seems to be going.

My 2nd point is that, for people on either side of the debate, it's premature to make assumptions of things we DON'T know. There IS an investigation under way. There WILL be more evidence to come out. During the regular course of police work, a lot of people are, "suspected of," things that they turn out being cleared of by the police themselves, or never get arrested for due to insufficient evidence or, if arrested, fail to be proven guilty of in court. It feels odd, to me, to need to remind others that, in our system, we believe in considering people innocent until proven guilty. And as I said, in post #249, I don't believe judgements about a person's life or character should or DO (legally) have any bearing in what is considered appropriate police treatment. (I've also said, in post #95, that I don't blame police for returning fire after being fired upon, though I don't think it need be indicative of anything other than self-defense-- certainly there's no proof that it was anything else-- that someone in the apartment that was broken into, late at night, by plainclothes policemen, shot at them & that, even if police announced themselves, there is significant reason to believe they did not do so sufficiently to insure that they were necessarily heard & understood by all, which is what they are trained to do).

So, in quick recap, an incident ought not be judged based on later events that are a reaction to the incident. We should not race to accept unproven allegations, even if they are made by Tucker Carlson. And any objections one might have about another's lifestyle, choices, etc., should not be enough to justify any possible police misconduct that leads to that person's death, or God help us all.

I'm including part of the Louisville Courier-Journal's article on the case (not for you, yabberefugee, since I saw the link on one of your posts) for anyone who wants to know just where facts vs. allegations stand at this point.

Why was Breonna Taylor part of the investigation?
Taylor isn't referenced much in the report, but here's what police do say:

• On Jan. 2, a pole camera installed at South 24th Street and Elliott Avenue captured footage of a white Chevrolet Impala registered to Taylor pull up in front of 2424 Elliott Ave. The camera footage showed Glover exiting from the passenger side.
• A red Dodge Charger that police say was used by both Glover and Adrian Walker, a co-defendant, made "frequent trips" between Elliott Avenue and Springfield Drive, where Taylor lived, according to "physical and electronic surveillance," Jaynes wrote.
• On Jan. 16, Glover was photographed by police entering Taylor's apartment and left with a "suspected USPS package." He then drove to 2605 W. Muhammad Ali Blvd., which Jaynes described in the search warrant affidavit as a "known drug house."

Glover has since disputed some of that surveillance evidence.

He told The Courier Journal in an Aug. 26 interview he'd worried about deliveries to his house being stolen, and Taylor had agreed to have the items sent to her apartment instead.

"Nothing even been illegal there," he said. "Getting shoes and clothes coming through the mail is not illegal. Nothing illegal at all."

Glover also noted that LMPD had a surveillance camera outside of 2424 Elliott Ave., so he said police knew Taylor wasn't doing anything illegal when she came over.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...anted-search-breanna-taylors-home/5706161002/

 

What crime did the boyfriend commit?

 

Only one witness who was not inside his apartment heard the police announce their presence. All of those who were inside said they heard nothing until the shooting started. These idiotic middle of the night drug raids should be abolished immediately as they endanger the lives of suspects, police officers and innocent bystanders every time.

This utter failure of a drug war has only served to destroy the Bill Of Rights and make the once Land Of The Free into the biggest prison country on the planet. The judge who signed the warrant and the supervisor who OKed the raid should be fired. The cops who were fired at first were within their rights to shoot back, but they should not have been put in that position in the first place.

Total decriminalization of drugs would save us all a lot of trouble. There will always be people who want to get high. Back before these idiotic drug laws you could buy an ampule of heroin and a clean needle for $1.98 from the Sears Catalog, There was Cocaine in Coca Cola and you could go to any drug store and buy morphine laced whiskey called Lodnum right over the counter.

There was no major drug problem or the wave of crime and gang turf wars until these idiotic, intrusive, hypocritical drug laws were passed. In my opinion, all of this kicking in doors and digging through people’s cars on the highway needs to stop. It is also one of the main reasons that there is so much animosity between lower income Americans and the Police in general.

 

Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence, that someone on another floor didn't hear them does not mean they did not announce their presence. They have an affirmative witness and the grand jury heard the evidence and was free to hear from the others.

Start a thread that has nothing to do with charging the officers with murder here.

 

The family of the woman who was shot to death is demanding to see all the police reports and Grand Jury transcripts. If it were a friend or relative of mine, I certainly would too. You are incorrect in your statement that the grand jury was free to hear from others. They only heard from witnesses that the DA chose to call. For all we know, the person presiding over the Grand Jury may well have been a personal friend of the two policemen who shot this woman to death in her own home at 2:00 in the morning. This whole deal was a total shitshow but typical here in America these days. We definitely need to reign in our police agencies as they have gotten totally out of control in how they treat those they are paid to protect and serve.

 

No drugs were found in the apartment and they killed a woman in her own apartment in the middle of the night. Horrible police work once again responsible for homicide.

 

One time? Her address was listed as Glovers primary residence with his bank. He also used her address for his deliveries.