Biden's popular vote victory is actually going to be huge

Trump supporters have literally been in suspension of disbelief for the last 4 years. What's another couple of months?

 

Not hardly. Those states were set up by the Dems to be the last four from the beginning. Add to that the fact that they were know to be the focal as early as 2016.

 

You shouldn't believe it either. The "ballots" being wheeled into the TCF Center was a TV station's photographic equipment, and there were more than 200 Republican poll watchers in the room. The doors were locked to stop even more getting in, the limit of 134 being well surpassed already.

 

The ability to explain things to yourself, in your head, isn't proof of anything, other than an active imagination.

 

Like I said, suspension of disbelief.

 

Dems not only manufacture fake ballots, they also change lottery numbers so I can never win. What a terrible party!

 

So you're another one buying the fake Trump campaign talking point that Biden is demented?
Look, the campaign is over. Trump lost. Now you can abandon the pretense.

 

I expect Biden to be able to work with Mitch in non-radical, bipartisan measures.

 

I saw Republicans doing the same to Obama, he was just less corrupt so most of it didn’t stick

What is the national debt? The stock market is not the economy

He did a great job in a a few areas, yes some in the media did lie about him — he is still a terrible person, a terrible leader and will go down in history as the criminal that he is.

 

Obama was very corrupt, to pretend otehrwise is simply partisan hackery. He just had the support of the media so most of it didnt stick. Thats how it goes with dems. They get the red carpet with the media.

The debt isn't his fault, he spent less than obama during his first 3 years and achieved far better results. This is objectively true.

He did a great job because he was a good leader, the media lied about him because they had no choice. If they told the truth he would undoubtedly be reelected. 98 percent negative coverage even during times of great accomplishments lol. He will go down in history as a great president, once emotions simmer down.

 

I didn't say Biden was 'demented'. Why do you attempt to change what I posted to fit your agenda?

He has more senior moments then the average person, much less one that will be leading a country.

I don't have a pretense. I can make judgements on my own. Apparently some cannot.

 

The willingness to deny the obvious is only proof of your willingness to deny the obvious.

 

An expectation that assumed that Biden will be around long enough to work with anyone on anything. The Democratic donor class wants Kamala, which almost no one else does. I will consider it a surprise if Biden even gets sworn in.

 

The media doesn’t do investigations, congress does and it was held by Republicans for 6 years. Zero indictments.

That you are comparing a presidents spending in a recession to one not in a recession shows your narrative. There is no point in responding to more of the regurgitation. He will be remembered as an impeached (one of three) fraud, a liar, that never received majority support (one of one) and was ejected after his second term (one of four) by the largest turnout in US history.

What will be uncovered by the Biden DOJ will likely add to “how he is remembered” and the groveling by some of his supporters (obligatory no one here) will be forever archived.

 

No they dont, but they do report to the populace and therefore have massive influencing power that they abuse with lies, omissions, and fake news.

I'm reasonably comparing the first 3 years of each president, and Trump outperformed Obama while spending less. This is not unreasonable. He will be remembered as a great president who did a great job despite the unethical impeachment process, he will never be indicted on any criminal nonsense, and ultimately will be remembered very well once peoples emotions simmer down.

And dems will be remembered very poorly with their support of such fake news and narratives.

 

Selective Facts. It's high for both sides.

 

I know. That's the point.

 

So you believe the media has the ability to sway Republican investigations to make a guilty Obama not be charged (a man that Republicans said their their only goal was to make him a one term president) but they don’t have the power to keep the — true — narrative that trump is a POS. Do you even hear yourself?

And no, the first three years will never be what is compared by anyone outside of people pushing an agenda.
Every president has been compared by term and trump spent more in one than Obama did in two.
That will be what is in the history books and I am sure he will add plenty more in the next two months.

 

Look, "mental health" and the "25th" - the implications of what you said are clear.
Come down from your high horse. "Oh I didn't say it." You know, at least you might want to stand behind your opinion and not hide it behind implications and innuendos.
Newsflash: I get it. I can read between the lines.
With his mild cognitive impairment associated with age (but in no way, akin to dementia; he's got a lot of gasoline left in his tank), Biden is still 100 times better for the country than Trump. Which is what I thought, and 73 million Americans thought too, and counting (I won't be surprised if it's at least 78 million when it's all said and done). And that's more than the ones who thought that the loser who is the incumbent was better. Guess what? He lost. I fully expect the BDS to kick in, with accusations of mental incapacity and suggestions of the 25th. Sorry, you'll have to put up with him for 4 years. There will be no 25th.

As for your silly jab "apparently some cannot" - what are you implying now? That I can't? If that's what it is, be a man and say it. Because, then, what would you claim? That I'm a partisan drinking the Kool Aid of the MSM? Well, you'd be wrong. I'm an independent, I pay allegiance to no party, and I don't form my opinion of Biden's mental status out of the MSM. I do, out of my own observation of his mental capacity, informed by 40 years of exercise of Medicine. I'm perfectly capable of gauging his mental acuity by what I observe on my own, in a setting like a town hall when he interacts freely with voters.

 

Yeah, yeah. Like when people said that Andrew Cuomo would be the nominee, that Hillary would be the nominee...
That Biden was demented (he showed to the voters that he isn't, with his excellent performance in his town hall, very sharp)...
Look, it was cool to pretend that he was demented to see if you'd discourage some people from voting for him. It's over. He won the election. This narrative failed. You can drop it.
Yes, he'll be sworn in.
And yes, short of dying of natural causes which any person his age (and Trump's age) is subjected to, he will complete his first term. Thankfully, because like you, I don't like Kamala.
So, OK, you'll consider that a surprise.
Fine. You'll be surprised.

 

I said exactly what I meant. I am hiding behind nothing. He has many senior moments, and it is quite obvious. I am also an independent. Have been since 1980.

I did not vote for Trump in 2016, and I surely held my nose doing it this time. I don't like Trump as a person, but I most assuredly wasn't going to be voting for someone who not only thinks the Green New Deal is a viable concept, but thinks taxing people more in a discriminatory manner to support poorly run government programs and create more of those programs. Both parties put of the bottom of the barrel. Unfortunately, there was nobody of the Third parties that had a flaming chance.

And as the duopoly loves it, one is forced to choose between evils.

 

Joe Scarborough voiced some scathing words for the Democratic Party. The Democratic candidates who ran for the Senate and the House did not do well. Seems Joe just doesn't have the long coat tails needed to pull Democratic candidates into congress. We're starting to see the progressives destroying the party with their Defund Police and socialism rhetoric.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/joe-scarborough-election-absolute-repudiation-democratic-brand
MSNBC star Joe Scarborough had tough words for the Democratic Party Friday despite the growing chance that Joe Biden will become president.

"I've got to put a sidebar in here because after the dust settles, if Joe Biden ends up winning the presidency, then I think a lot of people are going to turn to what happened to the Democratic Party," the "Morning Joe" co-host began. "There is no way to put this other than to say ... Joe Biden winning looks like a one-off. This election for the most part was an absolute repudiation of the Democratic Party as a brand. Their brand doesn’t work across most of America. It just doesn’t."

He went on to praise Rep. Abigail Spanberger, D-Va., who spoke bluntly to her House colleagues during a Thursday conference call, warning party members about further losses in 2022 if they don't curb their rhetoric on socialism and "defund the police."

 

So your proof of Dems cheating is that Biden is winning. Got it.

 

OK, actually I agree with you; let's walk away from attacking each other, and be civil again. Just, my notion of the lesser of two evils is the opposite of yours. Trump's frontal attack on democracy that we're seeing right now is another proof that Biden is the lesser of two evils. And yes, I'd love to see viable third parties; actually, like I've said many times, I'd love to see 7 parties, about equally sized, representing the main ideological positions. And going a step further, I'd even love to see a parliamentary system but I do understand that this is still too weird for how we think and for our traditions.

I do believe that a lot of the fears of conservatives regarding a Biden administration are exaggerated. The man is a moderate centrist. Has always been, in his 47 years of politics. Sure, he had to posture a bit and had to pay lip service to the left wing of his party, because, see, in certain battleground states, the difference in his favor was small and another phenomenon like the Bernie Bots defecting or sitting out at a tune of 25% could have doomed him.

But I don't really expect him to actually be as leftist as some of the campaign talking points have indicated.

And if he is, then we'll have a GOP Senate unless the Dems pull a double upset in the January runoff in Georgia. By the way, that's how I voted: Biden for president, and my state's Republican senatorial candidate. It's important to have checks and balances. As a centrist, I dislike extremisms by both sides of the political spectrum.

So, no, there will be no Green New Deal. We'll be just fine.