Study Shows Significant Link Between Mercury and Autism

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  1. LangleyMan

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    Seems to me he's cautioning us about Dr. Mercola.
     
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    As I said, they wanted an email address.

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    Legit researchers don't hide this way.
     
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    This is what the NIH says about autism:

    "Scientists believe that both genetics and environment likely play a role in ASD. There is great concern that rates of autism have been increasing in recent decades without full explanation as to why. Researchers have identified a number of genes associated with the disorder. Imaging studies of people with ASD have found differences in the development of several regions of the brain. Studies suggest that ASD could be a result of disruptions in normal brain growth very early in development. These disruptions may be the result of defects in genes that control brain development and regulate how brain cells communicate with each other. Autism is more common in children born prematurely. Environmental factors may also play a role in gene function and development, but no specific environmental causes have yet been identified. The theory that parental practices are responsible for ASD has long been disproved. Multiple studies have shown that vaccination to prevent childhood infectious diseases does not increase the risk of autism in the population."

    https://www.ninds.nih.gov/Disorders/Patient-Caregiver-Education/Fact-Sheets/Autism-Spectrum-Disorder-Fact-Sheet

    Vaccinate your children and cut back on the tuna.
     
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    Studies have shown repeatedly there is no link between thimerosal in childhood vaccines and autism.
     
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    Fish are sources of mercury in our diet.
     
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    He should have stuck with the studies showing there is no connection between thimerosal in vaccines and autism. His "bad" for mentioning there is a lot of mercury in fish like tuna. There was no reason to assume he was dismissing concerns about consuming too much mercury, but simply that the amount of mercury in a vaccine containing thimerosal is minuscule compared to a eating fish containing mercury.
     
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    Do you trust a study done by the establishment?

    Here is the official US government stand on depleted uranium.
    https://fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/docs/b04151999_bt170-99.htm
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    RAND REVIEW INDICATES NO EVIDENCE OF HARMFUL HEALTH EFFECTS FROM DEPLETED URANIUM

    The Department of Defense announced today the release of a RAND scientific literature review that indicates no evidence of harmful health effects directly linked to depleted uranium exposures at levels experienced by Gulf War veterans.

    The report, "A Review of the Scientific Literature as it Pertains to Gulf War Illnesses: Volume 7 Depleted Uranium," is the latest report commissioned by the office of the special assistant for Gulf War illnesses. The report responds to veterans' concerns that depleted uranium might be the cause of some of their illnesses.

    The report states that there are no peer reviewed published reports of detectable increases of cancer or other negative health effects from radiation exposure to inhaled or ingested natural uranium at levels far exceeding those likely in the Gulf. This is mainly because the body is very effective at eliminating ingested and inhaled uranium and because the low radioactivity of natural or depleted uranium means that the mass of uranium needed for significant internal exposure is virtually impossible to obtain. Large variations in exposure to radioactivity from natural uranium in the normal environment have not been associated with negative health effects.

    Exposure to uranium at high doses can cause kidney problems. However, no increase in kidney disease has been observed in relatively large occupational populations chronically exposed to natural uranium at concentrations above normal ambient levels.

    Researchers at the Baltimore VA Medical Center are following the group of Gulf War Veterans with the greatest exposure to depleted uranium, veterans with embedded fragments. Although these individuals have an array of health problems, many of which are related to their combat injuries, researchers say "To date no manifestations of kidney disease attributable to the chemical toxicity of depleted uranium have been found; neither do these individuals appear to have manifestations attributable to radiation effects."

    RAND is a nonprofit institution with a long history of independent research. RAND had experts review the literature, including Dr. Naomi Harley, an authority on radiation physics, Dr. Ernest Foulkes, a heavy metal toxicologist, and Dr. Lee Hilborne, a pathologist. Their review encompassed literature relating to both radiation and heavy metal toxicity risks published or accepted for publication in peer-reviewed journals, books, government publications and conference proceedings.

    This paper, as well as the RAND literature review on oil well fires and the Defense Department's environmental exposure report on depleted uranium are posted on the GulfLINK web site, at http//www.gulflink.osd.mil.
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    Here's what it's done to Iraqui babies.
    https://www.bing.com/images/search?...881458B2B90ECC863&first=1&tsc=ImageBasicHover
    https://www.bing.com/search?q=depleted+uranium+iraqui+babies+deformed&FORM=HDRSC1

    Tell us whether you believe the official US government version.

    Also, check out the alternative version of thimerosal and autism from earlier posts in this thread.
    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ury-and-autism.579730/page-10#post-1072333036
    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ury-and-autism.579730/page-10#post-1072334680
     
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    We're not your research assistants.

    Show us how the studies showing there is no connection between thimerosal in childhood vaccines and autism are in error. Over to you.
     
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    Depends upon who did it for what purpose.
    I'm not interested in watching a 90-minute video. How about you saying where is the presentation something important is said?
     
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    Why don't you present the evidence supporting your position?
     
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    Because it is a good thing.

    Thimerosal (ethylmercury) is used in vaccines to prevent germ growth. Contaminated vaccines can make people very, very sick, and even teeny tiny amounts thimerosal in vaccines is a preservative that prevents germ contamination.

    Were you under the impression that mercury in vaccines has no purpose other than than some sort of evil government plot to poison people?

    Ethylmercury is quickly and easily cleared from the body.

    The mercury that contaminates fish is methylmercury, and it is not easily cleared from the body, and it is far more poisonous than ethylmercury.

    There is a very good and positive reason why mercury is in vaccines, and it is indeed "a good thing". The benefits of vaccine preservation far outweigh any unproven, tinfoil hatter theoretical risks.

    There is nothing good about the mercury in fish, and that is a real and serious problem that deserves far more attention than the mythical dangers of mercury in vaccines.

    Note- thimerosal was removed from childhood vaccines 20 years ago, but that certainly hasn't shut up the tinfoil hatters, has it?
     
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    Why are you debunking studies showing no link between autism and thimerosal in vaccines?
     
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    Are you philosophically opposed to providing sources and links?
     
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    Your demands for what you don't provide are tedious BS.
     
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    Don't hold your breath.
     
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    Oh, the irony...

    :roll: :roll: :roll:
     
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    Watch the video, please.
     
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    Quackery.
     
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    I did. It's irrelevant BS.
     
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    The problem is that studies that show thimerasol is harmful is being suppressed, and any PHD with a medical license who does scholarly work that do not show vaccines with thimerasol
    in a good light will get his license pulled. The reason is that Pharma is a billion dollar force with more lobbyists than members of congress.

    This happened to Dr Mark Geier (Phd) who worked for NIH for years, was a lecturer, and had over 100 papers published. One day he decided he wanted to improve the flu vax, and he found out a lot of bad info on thimerasol, via the Vaccine Safety Datalink ( a gov research database not available to the public ) and they sued him, pulled his license. This is why you'll never find any bad data on vaccines, doctors know they will get their licenses pulled if they do, it happened to Geier and others. That being said, I'd like to see someone refute his data, without regard to the author of the study. That is what I'd like to see.

    https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0946672X16300931

    The research that examines the relationship between mercury and ASD is extensive. One of the purposes of this review of the scientific literature was to bring together and organize the plethora of studies to make it easier for researchers to examine and interpret the evidence. It is a compilation of every original study with any investigation of ASD and any potential exposure to mercury from any source, at any time point, in the human population. In order to limit the introduction of any bias, the authors of this review did not analyze each study, evaluate bias or study quality, or discuss similarities and difference between the studies.

    From this inventory of the available research, it is clear that the vast majority of the research, conducted by multiple research groups, from many different countries, using many different methodologies, supports a link between mercury exposure and a diagnosis of ASD. In this evaluation, it was found that 74% of studies support a link between mercury exposure and ASD, which corroborates a previous evaluation of the same issue conducted in 2010. In that study, Desoto and Hitlan also found that 74% of studies support a link between mercury exposure and ASD [159]. This agreement in science six years later is compelling and supports the validity of the finding.

    The compilation of the evidence indicates that children with ASD are more susceptible to mercury than typically developing children, and that is reflected in significantly different levels of mercury, or biomarkers indicative of mercury, in the brain, blood, urine, baby teeth, hair, and nails. In addition, many of these studies have found that the mercury, or biomarkers indicative of mercury, correlate with symptom severity such that the higher the mercury levels the worse the autism symptom severity. The majority of the epidemiological research also support the hypothesis that mercury is a risk factor for ASD. Based on the preponderance of the evidence, mercury exposure is causal and/or contributory in ASD. With the increase in neurodevelopmental disorders in general, and especially ASD, the evidence suggests that governmental/public policy changes are urgently needed.
     
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    Look, I'm not saying 'vaccines cause autism', but mercury is ****ing dangerous. This I know.

    No one knows the cause of autism, and 'believe' is NOT science, and if anyone should know that, scientists should.

    One thing is certain, 1 child in 68 has it, which is a far greater number than when I was a kid. You don't have to look far to find it. In my youth, we called such kids 'retarded' and they were rare, far rarer than 1 in 68, so what has changed? We got only a small handful of jabs by the time we reached 6, and we didn't get a jab until the age of 2, Now they are vaxxing babies and giving almost 40 jabs by the time they are 6, and flu vaxxes ( some of them ) have mercury in them.

    That is what has changed. Correlation is not causation. Ever heard that statement? Well, Actually, that isn't quite true, the more honest statement is, 'correlation isn't necessarily causation, per se, but it is a good place to start an investigation", see, if you are a homicide detective, and Joe Blow is near the scene on 100 different homicides, you investigate Joe Blow or you are not doing your job. And what stats do they use to 'prove' vaccines work? the use the declining incidences of the disease to prove it, which is correlation data. But what they don't tell you is that the downward slope of declining diseases has been going on a couple of centuries before vaccines were introduced, and concomitant with those declines in similar declining proportions are diseases for which there are no vaccines. I will say that the vaccines that have proven themselves, despite this fact, is that the decline rate accelerated downward with the advent of the vaccine, and one such vaccine is the measles vax. No argument with that one. But flu vax stats are dubious, and one thing the flu vax hasn't accomplished what the measles vax has, is ridding society of the disease. The flu comes back every year. Now then, this is due to the high rate of flu virus mutation, of course. but, facts are facts and flu vaxxes are not very effective, especially if you are over the age of 60 and younger than 2 ( so says the CDC ).

    The following fact is why I hold the medical establishment with not very high esteem: it is because they have this mentality, and it is thus 'vaccines are the one of the greatest advances in medical science'. and let me tell you something, when the herd has that mentality, it's a mental juggernaut that will railroad any doctor who isn't with the program, and this famous quote really applies:

    "It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it." -- Upton Sinclair

    The point is, as long as the establishment has this mentality, there will be studies that back their mentality, but I assure you, there are plenty of studies that do not back it and they are being suppressed, and there are a number of them. And they will be railroaded ('debunked'), as well, by astroturf sites:

    http://www.chiropractic.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/1200-studies-The-Truth-Will-Prevail-3.pdf

    What is astroturf ? listen to this 10 minute video:



    I'm therefore reluctant to believe anyone, on vaccines, pro or anti. But, the anti side aren't backed by big pharma, so there's that.

    I'm not saying 'do not vaccinate' but I'm concerned that we my be giving too many vaccines in to high of a frequency to our youth.

    When the Covid vax comes to my neighborhood, I will get it. ( as long as it doesn't have mercury in it , 'thimerasol' ).
     
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    (from post #261)
    I did. Click on the link. I gave a time mark where he started talking about mercury in vaccines.
     
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    Thimerosal still is an ingredient in multi dose flu vaccines.
     

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