Biden Admin: Challenges in first 100 days

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  1. Modus Ponens

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    Eh, truth hurts. When you follow one particularly competent president (e.g. one who saved the world economy form the 2009 Crisis) with one particularly incompetent one, that's where the judgment of history can land.




    First of all, Biden would only have a truly uncontested united gov't, if the Dems had a filibuster-proof majority in the Senate. We both know well that McConnell will leverage his undertaker-role to the utmost vs. Biden, same as he did to torpedo Obama's legislative aims for six years.

    Second, typical GOP undertaker-obstruction may force the Dems to end the filibuster, but that of course will suck up a lot of the Dems' political capital in the short-term, making it more difficult to maintain its majority in the Senate. Just like with Obamacare, Republicans will take legislation that is in fact in public interest and demagogue it for short-term electoral gains. The eyes of history are not going to fail to notice a pattern, there...

    Trump and Trumpism has left the US geostrategic position is absolute disarray. It is not difficult at all to see a major international crisis blowing up in the next few years, with the US on the back-foot. Whatever happens, people are not going to let the Republicans put the Trump lead-in down the memory-hole.

    No, no, no. You don't get to post a historically disastrous presidency, and think the table is automatically re-set the minute your guy is out of office.
     
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    Biden isn't even in office yet, and you're making excuses for his failure.

    Look ... Trump was unlikable, rude, often inappropriate, egotistical - add whatever adjectives you want.

    But most of what happened under his administration was good for America.

    High employment, higher wages, no new wars, defeating ISIS, reducing troops in Afghanistan, reduced illegal immigration, making European countries defend themselves instead of stealing their defense from us, a reduced trade deficit with China, reduced tension with N. Korea, a tax cut on business, soaring stock market, reforming federal sentencing, energy independence, standing up for law and order ...

    I expect Biden to stay on a path that keeps these good things happening. If he doesn't, that is on him, not Trump. With the vaccines coming out for hundreds of millions of Americans in the next few months, we've even got the friggin plague on the run.

    Biden's got nothing stopping him. No Trump, and he's got the House and Senate. There is no reason why he cannot continue these good things. And if he doesn't, that's on him, he lives with it.

    Period. End of story.
     
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    Trump is a Authoritarian, Fascist demagogue - a supremely Un-American figure who somehow managed (as the Founders feared and predicted) to become the Chief Magistrate of the United States.



    It is not "good for America" to indulge the Fascist Big Lie and fan the flames of an already-raging Culture War. Trump has put the United States one giant step closer to political violence. On that score alone he is a spectacular failure of a president.

    Liberals will never accept that Trump did anything beneficial for the economy. Trump benefited from trending economic fundamentals which Obama established after the Crisis. The performance of the markets has more to do with simple investor-greed, plus the lucky coincidence of the whole world economy moving into a growth phase in the run-up to the Covid crisis. Higher wages came as they were expected, at the end of a long gradual recovery (a largely jobless one, as has been the trend since the 2002 recession); the gains don't even merit the euphemism "trickle down." If there was one thing Trump was elected to do, it was to provide better opportunities for the working class. Needless to say, Trump's own economic interests align with the oligarchic class in the US and he had no intention of reforming the system to benefit those who voted for him. In his defense, he didn't have to do anything more than virtue-signal for his base, and they maintained their cultish devotion to him.

    Trump jettisoned a key instrument of economic and political leverage over China, when he unceremoniously dumped the TPP the first week of his presidency. Trump's trade wars damaged our relationships with key trade partners, for no net benefit. His tax cut was pointless and makes a mockery of Republican claims to care about fiscal discipline or our long-run fiscal position.

    Trump contributed nothing material to the defeat of ISIS; that was our armed forces simply following the plan laid out by the Obama Admin. eight years ago. For a politician who talked long about "America First," he had four years to end our commitment to Foreverwar in the Middle East, and the most substantive thing he did was stab the Kurds in the back. As long as we maintain a troop presence in Afghanistan (and elsewhere) we are entangled in the affairs of other countries and always liable to ramp back up our involvement. Trump's "America First" was just another one his lies - a pose without substance. It is useful as much for the purposes of unilateralist belligerence (as in the case of NK, who he almost got us into a war with in the first year of his Admin) as it is an excuse for us to not engage the hard work of diplomacy and multilateral engagement.

    Immigration is a force of nature, and hammering it down by brute force is no long-term solution to the problem it poses. Energy independence? That was already achieved under Obama.

    As for "standing up for law and order" - Trump is an wannabe dictator and the most lawless president the United States has ever had. "Standing up for law and order" - that's not gonna age well, how you can claim that with a straight face is beyond me.



    A plague which posterity will also put down in Trump's ledger. Elections have consequences, and the last four years of disastrous leadership will take their toll. Biden now faces massive headwinds that he would not be facing now, if we had any other leader these last four years (Democrat or Republican). Covid-19 will not be effectively dealt with til the end of the year - and that's only if people get vaccinated (many Trumpists are refusing to) and maintain the public hygiene measures - all very unlikely, all down to Trump's malignant incompetence. In the end, there will likely be hundreds of thousands of Americans who would still be alive, if he had not been president. That too is a reckoning with his legacy that the public has not - yet - come around to.


    Bold and underline all you like - that don't make it true. Biden will probably not be a successful president; but Trump will be one of the great villains of American history. You can be proud of your role in making it happen.
     
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    Now people are coming to the US because they hope Joe Biden's administration will be less tough on migration than the current one.

    To paraphrase these migrants;
    "I'm coming for your job, I don't want to fix my own country, I want in in yours."
    "First thing I do when I get to America is get a job."
     
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    I don't know about that, the DNC's propaganda wing (formerly known as the "free and independent press") will take care of that! They did more to elect Befuddled Joe than his "policies" or personal appeal.
     
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    Don't worry - when they report 4K+ dead from Covid on Thursday, RW media and some Trumpers will say it is Biden's fault...
     
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    Much of what you say is that the good things I talked about are credit due to Obama. Even if that were true, then all Joe has to do is not screw it up.

    That is not a very high bar.

    He has the chance to have a successful presidency, as long as he doesn’t screw it up. But if he does screw it up, that’s on him, not Trump and not on the Republicans.

    For example, if he doesn’t stop this caravan from crossing the border, and thousands or tens of thousands of people jump the border, that is his fault, not Trump’s fault.

    If he doesn’t want to be responsible for anything, and he and the Democrats and their MSM benefactors want to deflect to Trump for the next 4 years, he shouldn’t have run for President.

    And what’s more, the Independents in the electorate won’t buy it, and it’s Independents who decide elections.

    Biden won the election, the House and Senate. And those of us who didn’t vote for him are going to hold his feet to the fire of responsibility. “But Trump!” is not going to cut it.
     
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    Wasn't it Pelosi that wouldn't allow the $2,000 checks to go out?
     
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    We have to face the fact that Trump made a mockery out of our Government and made a mockery our of pretty much every else.
     
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    No; that is Mitch McConnell.
     
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    Trump's methods might not have been the best, but he did think in productive terms and gave the forgotten Americans what they needed and wanted; jobs. That's why they voted for him. Biden like all Democrats offered nothing, and used scare tactics and demonizing because winning and gaining power has always been their only intent. To them politics is a game, not a service to their country.

    Today the Democrats are gloating and want to humble Trump for daring to care for his country. The fact that he can't be bought like Biden, Clinton and the others freaks them out. How dare he? That hatred they have, is extended to everyone who voted for him. It means that they too care for their country, when they should be above the banality of family, faith and country and think only of self. To them Trump followers are either stupid or hypocrites. They can't see it otherwise.

    As for what will Biden do? Well, he'll do whatever Soros tells him to do - and pocket what's given to him. So the question is, what does Soros want? Well he has a 'messianic' view of himself, and wants to remake the world in his image. That means a one world government and currency - under the control of a few that is. This is what the Great Reset is all about, and it's going to be discussed at Davos this year.

    Anyway we're in for some very hard times, because men might have their plans, but God has his own.

     
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    Trump wants to do 100 pardons before he exits. You have to wonder who these people are.
     
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    This is wall-to-wall delusion. You have been completely duped by a Cult of Personality. It will be the downfall of the United States.
     
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    I think a major challenge will be returning the US to the Paris climate accord.
    The vested interests opposing this along with climate change denial will be major hurdles.
     
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    Government needs to get out of the way and let the private sector distribute the vaccine. Biden is a buffoon! He's going to kill the oil business causing APEC and the Russia to control the oil for the world. Gasoline will skyrocket to $!0 a gallon. That hurts the poor and the middle class. Not his wealthy friends in the investment-banking, Hollywood, sports and Media world. All you have to do is look at the murderous acts of Governor Cuomo of New York and you can see what we will have for the vaccine program.
     
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    Trump mocked the government and everyone else. When Covid 19 came, He told us that it would all go away in due time. He mocked into wishful thinking Trump had control of and had an upper hand on the Republicans. If any republicans were to go against Trump, He'd ruin them one way or another. The Republicans feared Trump when in office. Trump would rather play golf in Florida that face government problems.
     
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    No, you haven't been duped either. You agree with Soros and his Great Reset plan that will destroy your own ability to enjoy liberty and freedom. You will no longer get to post here as speech and freedom of thought will be silenced. You think you are silencing conservative God-fearing people. But, in reality, you will lose your ability to speak freely and have your own thoughts as well. Here we go with another socialist experiment that will end in disaster. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over expecting different results. The only result from Biden will be China will use Biden and Soros to extend their control over the United States and rule with their form of communism. Which is brutal!
     
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    Or a short one. And that one is devastating.
     
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    North Korea has missiles that reach the U.S. There are middle east Muslim countries with Nukes and Iran will have one shortly that can reach the U.S. The world is a small place now and our problems reach around the world. appeasing NK and Iran does not work either. They use weak Presidents like Obama and Biden to their advantage. And, when they are done with us, they will start the final battle before the Millennium.
     
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    Seth Bullock? Not many people know of Seth Bullock. In my childhood, I walked past Seth Bullock's grave many of times on my way to White Rocks. I left Deadwood at the age of 7 but remember the good times. I have many of family buried at Mt. Moriah Cemetery.
     
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    You are quite delusional. When you tried to say Obama was the hero for defeating ISIS I knew you had no sense of reality. He called them the JV team and then did nothing while they chopped off people's heads. He had no plan just like he had no plan after drawing that stupid red line in the sand with Syria. He did nothing then too. Trump did. He bombed Syria and took out some Russian troops as well and never had another problem with both Syria and Russia. He completely changed military tactics with ISIS and wiped them out. Now, they will be back and Biden will do nothing because he wants to also wipe Israel off the face of the map. Biden and his so-called 80 million fascists want to wipe Israel out as well.
     
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    From what I recall, the package that Pelosi and the Democrats wanted originally when Trump proposed $2,000, was about 2 trillion and included things like building a wall between Syria and Jordan..

    Mitch McConnell:

    "I said back in July what the country needed was a package roughly of a trillion dollars focused on kids in school, small businesses, health care providers, and direct cash payments," McConnell said in December. "We started advocating that in July and August. The talks were unproductive, so I essentially put that bill on the floor of the Senate in both September and October. Not a single Democrat supported it. Their view was, give us everything we want or we won't give you anything.

    "It's noteworthy that at the end they finally gave us what we could have agreed to back in July," he continued. "I think what held it up was, they did not want to do anything before the presidential election. I think they felt that would disadvantage the president."


    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/pelosi-60-minutes-stimulus-check-obstruction-lesley-stahl
     
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    I would love to visit Deadwood someday!

    I’m a retired law enforcement officer, so that’s why I chose that screen name, and I admire the real Seth Bullock. Cheers!
     
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    Which middle east Muslim nation currently has nukes?
     
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