Operation Warp Speed's success – this is the lesson we must learn as we work for common good

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  1. RodB

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    It'll never happen, McGee.
     
  2. XXJefferson#51

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    TDS is strong in some who blame him for absolutely everything negative that ever happens and give him no credit at all for the good things that happened.
     
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    Wrong as per usual.
    Vaccine companies told GAO that the primary difference from a non-pandemic environment was the compressed timelines. To meet OWS timelines, vaccine companies relied on data from other vaccines using the same platforms, where available, or conducted certain animal studies at the same time as clinical trials.

    Vaccine manufacturing supply chains have been strained by the global demand for certain goods and workforce disruptions caused by the global pandemic. For example, representatives from one facility manufacturing COVID-19 vaccines stated that they experienced challenges obtaining materials, including reagents and certain chemicals. They also said that due to global demand, they waited 4 to 12 weeks for items that before the pandemic were typically available for shipment within one week. Vaccine companies and DOD and HHS officials undertook several efforts to address manufacturing disruptions and mitigate supply chain challenges.

    These efforts include federal assistance to
    (1) expedite procurement and delivery of critical manufacturing equipment,
    (2) develop a list of critical supplies that are common across the six OWS vaccine candidates, and
    (3) expedite the delivery of necessary equipment and goods coming into the United States.

    Additionally, DOD and HHS officials said that as of December 2020 they had placed prioritized ratings on 18 supply contracts for vaccine companies under the Defense Production Act, which allows federal agencies with delegated authority to require contractors to prioritize those contracts for supplies needed for vaccine production.

    Then you had Gaps in the available workforce. Hiring and training personnel with the specialized skills needed to run vaccine manufacturing processes can be challenging. OWS officials worked with the Department of State to expedite visa approval for key technical personnel, including technicians and engineers to assist with installing, testing, and certifying critical equipment manufactured overseas. OWS officials also requested that 16 DOD personnel be detailed to serve as quality control staff at two vaccine manufacturing sites until the organizations can hire the required personnel.

    Without Operation warp speed and the federal assistance provided, ALL vaccine manufactures would still be caught up in red tape, equipment and personnel shortages, and clinical trials that would last for years.
     
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    That would be an outright lie.
    When the Department of Health and Human Services released Pfizer's $1.95 billion coronavirus vaccine contract with Operation Warp Speed, the agreement revealed that the Trump administration didn't include government rights to intellectual property typically found in federal contracts. Pfizer has downplayed its involvement in Operation Warp Speed, the Trump administration's more than $10 billion program to make a coronavirus vaccine available in record time. Although Pfizer didn't receive government funding this spring toward research and development of the vaccine, it nevertheless received one of the largest Operation Warp Speed supply contracts to date.
     
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    While the left is pounding away at getting those vaccines into every arm in America provided by the father of the vaccines.
     
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    If Trump is the father of the vaccine, then all the side effects should be his fault too right?

    Cons want the government out of healthcare, but at the same time praise Trump for getting the government involved in vaccine development. They also ignore the fact that these vaccines are free for everyone, so more socialized medicine for ya, but that's okay as long as it makes Trump look good
     
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    Operation Warp speed was not created by the COVID relief bill. In fact, its not even mentioned.

    The first news report of Operation Warp Speed was on April 29, 2020, and the program was officially announced on May 15, 2020. It was headed by Moncef Slaoui from May 2020 to January 2021

    Their is NOTHING in the COVID bill (CARES ACT) that awards ANYTHING to Operation Warp Speed. The Trump administration DIVERTED $10 billion from the Provider Relief Fund intended for healthcare providers and facilities that was to reimburse providers for expenses or lost revenues attributable to COVID-19.

    That money was diverted to:
    the Department of Health and Human Services,
    the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention,
    Food and Drug Administration,
    the National Institutes of Health,
    the Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority (BARDA);
    the Department of Defense;
    the Department of Agriculture,
    the Department of Energy,
    the Department of Veterans Affairs
    and private firms
     
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    According the leftist thinking, that would be correct. Just like Orville Wright is responsible for all plane crashes and the NRA is responsible for mass shootings.
     
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    Well if it's due to a mechanical or structural defect in the design of the plane, Orville would certainly be responsible wouldn't he?
     
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    So you think a couple of bicycle repairmen who discovered controlled flight in a crate made of sticks and fabric should be held accountable for mechanical or structural defects in a F-16 or jet engine failures? According to you, they would be responsible for the Challenger disaster.
     
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    Setting aside funding and cutting red tape for Pfiser isn't getting government involved in vaccine development. Its funding research. Unless you are now describing Trump as an intellectual equal to the scientist who developed the vaccine.
     
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    :applause::banana:Well said!
     
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    You are correct, Operation Warp Speed is a multi faceted Public-Private partnership, which includes government funds in vaccine development as well as funds in vaccine supply, which is essentially the government buying doses after the vaccine is developed. The US was actually the third country to purchases doses of the Pfizer vaccine once it was developed, but the company did not accept any funds from the US government for the vaccine's development.
     
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    How come you haven't linked your write-ups?

    Here's the rest of your post.......


    https://www.npr.org/sections/health...y-contract-excludes-many-taxpayer-protections
     
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    the Trump admin placed an order, these companies were not a part of warp speed, you wrong again
     
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    Last Summer, the U.S. wasn't isn't the only country who pre-ordered millions of doses from Pfiser, and paid upfront.

    I don't understand why Republicans are making extravagant claims about the Pfiser vaccine, both development, manufacturing, and distribution.

    Response from the below average intelligent people; ''Yeah, but Trump cut the red tape, we gave them $1.9 billion, blah blah blah''

    HEY MORONS, MANY OTHER COUNTRIES HAVE DONE THE EXACT SAME THING.
     
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    Quote; Without Operation warp speed and the federal assistance provided, ALL vaccine manufactures would still be caught up in red tape, equipment and personnel shortages, and clinical trials that would last for years., ALL vaccine manufactures would still be caught up in red tape, equipment and personnel shortages, and clinical trials that would last for years.

    Correction; ''IN THE U.S''., Without Operation warp speed and the federal assistance provided, ALL vaccine manufactures would still be caught up in red tape, equipment and personnel shortages, and clinical trials that would last for years.
     
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    COVID-19 VACCINE U.S. DISTRIBUTION FACT SHEET

    PFIZER

    • Pfizer is working closely with the U.S. government, including state officials, on vaccine distribution, and we are very grateful for their partnership.
    • Pfizer is a proven, reliable multinational vaccine producer, supplying vaccines to more than
      165 countries. Pfizer manufactures more than 200 million doses of Pfizer vaccines annually and is one of the largest sterile injectables suppliers in the world, producing more than 1 billion sterile units per year.
    • Our track record gives us confidence in our ability to quickly scale, manufacture and distribute large quantities of a high-quality COVID-19 vaccine, leveraging multiple sites in the United States and Europe. We have experience working with customers with different infrastructures in all markets.
    • During the initial stage, our contracts are with governments, and we will be providing doses according to their preferred channel and designated vaccination locations, subject to regulatory authorization or approval. We seek to work with governments to support distribution to their defined priority groups, and we anticipate that points of vaccination will vary but may include hospitals, outpatient clinics, community vaccination locations and pharmacies.
    • We have developed detailed logistical plans and tools to support effective vaccine transport, storage and continuous temperature monitoring. Our distribution is built on a flexible, just-in-time system, which will ship the frozen vials direct to the point of vaccination.
    • In the U.S., our distribution approach will be to largely ship from our Kalamazoo, Michigan, site direct to the point of use (POU). We also will use our existing distribution center in Pleasant Prairie, Wisconsin.
    • We will be utilizing road and air modes of transportation in the United States, where we expect to be able to get product to any POU within a day or two.
    • We also have developed packaging and storage innovations to be fit for purpose for the range of locations where we believe vaccinations will take place. We have specially designed,temperature-controlled thermal shippers utilizing dry ice to maintain recommended storage temperature conditions of -70°C±10°C for up to 10 days unopened. The intent is to utilize Pfizer-strategic transportation partners to ship by air to major hubs within a country/region and by ground transport to dosing locations.
    • We will utilize GPS-enabled thermal sensors with a control tower that will track the location and temperature of each vaccine shipment across their pre-set routes, 24 hours a day, seven days a week. These GPS-enabled devices will allow Pfizer to proactively prevent unwanted deviations and act before they happen.
    • Once a POU receives a thermal shipper with our vaccine, they have three options for storage:
      • - Ultra-low-temperature freezers, which are commercially available and can extend shelf life for up to six months.
      • - The Pfizer thermal shippers, in which doses will arrive, that can be used as temporary storage units by refilling with dry ice every five days for up to 30 days of storage.
      • - Refrigeration units that are commonly available in hospitals. The vaccine can be stored for five days at refrigerated 2-8°C conditions.
    • After storage for up to 30 days in the Pfizer thermal shipper, vaccination centers can transfer the vials to 2-8°C storage conditions for an additional five days, for a total of up to 35 days. Once thawed and stored under 2-8°C conditions, the vials cannot be re-frozen or stored under frozen conditions.
    • The various storage options at the POU allow for equitable access to the Pfizer vaccine to areas with differing infrastructure.



    https://www.pfizer.com/news/hot-topics/covid_19_vaccine_u_s_distribution_fact_sheet
     
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    HERE'S A TOUGH QUESTION TO REPUBLICANS......

    Do the following Agencies deserve credit for Operation Warp Speed?

    Deep State FDA
    Deep State CDC
    Deep State HHS
    Deep State BARDA
    Deep State NIH

    How many Republicans would rather hide under a blanket than congratulate all of the above?

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    THANK YOU TO EVERYONE WHO CONTRIBUTED TO MAKING OWS A SUCCESS.

    Response from Republicans; "How come you didn't mention Trump"?

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    THANK YOU TO EVERYONE WHO CONTRIBUTED TO MAKING OWS A SUCCESS, including president Trump.

    Response from Republicans;

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    All of those deserve considerable credit for accomplishing what Trump directed and cajoled them to do. I don't know why you left military off your list. They were the ones who at Trump's command effected a massive distribution program and probably the only organization capable of it. None on your list could have.
     
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    So could it be said that at warp speed, Trump and Pharma delivered a dangerous experimental injection to the American people which has killed thousands and maimed many more?

    An injection which has had many thousands testing positive for the 'virus', and by which hundreds of them have actually died 'from the virus'.

    Is there some manner of deception going on here???
     
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    I only listed the Agencies that Trump once or twice criticized.

    For example, Deep State BARDA........for not fully supporting Trump's push for Hydroxy.

    Last, OWS credit seekers have become very childish.
     
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    Don't be silly. There has never been a vaccination without some side effects and some ineffectiveness. The best effectiveness the annual flu vaccination has ever reached was about 70%.
     
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