Rockets Fired Between Gaza and Tel Aviv

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  1. fmw

    fmw Well-Known Member

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    More interestingly it occurred right after a rocket attack from Hamas.
     
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    What are their 'true colors'?
    What are Hamas' 'true colors'?
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Do you not understand the term Zionist ?

    Hamas are freedom fighters.
     
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  4. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Easily.

    Those who have left were told by the 7 advancing Arab countries that they'd be back home in a few days, after the Jews were thrown into the sea.

    These Palestinians who decided to stay are now happy Israeli citizens, enjoying the good life.
     
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  5. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    My friend,

    You owe me for the spilled coffee :wall:

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  6. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Who, me or Jordanians?
     
  7. LangleyMan

    LangleyMan Well-Known Member

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    I think Israel should create a West Bank and Gaza protectorate ("Palestine"), joined ultimately by a road and rail corridor through the Negev. The declared West Bank borders should be contiguous (no Jewish settlements inside the West Bank) and flexible following a lasting peace agreement. Israel would be responsible for controlling all Palestinian borders, especially in the Jordan Valley.

    Most of the West Bank Jewish settlements are near the Green Line and those settlements should be included in Israel. Land beyond Green Line could included in Palestine as compensation.

    I realize declaring boundaries unilaterally would be a departure for Israel, but I believe one Israel will eventually embrace.
     
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    You're suggestions.
     
  9. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    A history lesson for you, perhaps?

    Hussein’s relations with the PLO, which under the chairmanship of Yasser Arafat openly challenged the king’s control in East Jordan, reached a crisis in September 1970. The Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP), a radical Marxist Palestinian group, hijacked four international airliners and blew up three of them in Dawson’s Field, a deserted airstrip in the Jordanian desert. Hussein declared martial law, and civil war (later remembered as Black September) erupted. When 250 Syrian tanks entered northern Jordan in support of the PLO, Hussein was forced not only to call upon military assistance from the United States and Great Britain but also to allow overflights by Israel to attack the Syrian forces. The Syrian forces were defeated, and a peace agreement, in which Hussein made concessions to the PLO, was signed by Hussein and Arafat in Cairo on September 27, 1970; by July 1971 Hussein had forced the PLO guerrillas out of Jordan.

    https://www.britannica.com/place/Jordan/From-1967-to-civil-war
     
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    I've repeatedly asked apologists for Zionist land thieves to name just one group of people who have meekly accepted the world's oldest and most brutal foreign funded occupation but have yet to get a coherent response.
     
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    There's no need to dismiss the identity of people whose ancestors have lived for centuries in communities inside what is today the state of Israel.
    Untrue. They don't need a name to fight Israel.
    Arguing about who started what in each new round of violence is a mug's game.
     
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    You have some good points in your post, but it is really naïve. Both Israel and Palestinians claim Jeurselam as the capitals of their countries. Jeurselam was ceded to Israel after the Six-Day War. In that war, Israel was attacked by the combined armies of Egypt, Jordan and Syria. Israel managed to repel the attack. The cease fire agreement awarded the West Bank (including Jeurselam) and Gaze City on the West Bank. That agreement makes territory a part of Israel. The area that the families are being evicted was originally owned by Jews. Prior to the Six-day War, Jeurselam was a divided city. The eastern side After the war, the Israeli government The area is inside East Jeurselam was in the hands of Arabs and the West Jeurselam was in the hands of Israel. After the war, The Israel boundaries were pushed much further east. In order to reinforce Israel's claim to the entirety of Jeurselam, they decided to build a ring of settlements along the area eastern edge of Jeurselam. The area that these families are being evicted from is within that ring of settlements. This area represents spoil of war that was taken because of an unprovoked attack from three countries against Israel.

    In my humble opinion, Israel should official annex both the West Bank and Gaza City. This would put an end to the fake name of Palestinians. The Arabs in Israel could go on living under Israel rules, or leave the area. It is that simple.
     
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    If the Jews would just agree to die, we wouldn't have all these problems.
     
  14. LangleyMan

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    Propaganda Alert!

    Native Americans don't think much of your claim. :roll: :roll:

    70% of Israeli Jews were born in Israel. Millions of Israeli Jews know no other home and have nowhere else to go. This is even more true for Palestinians.

    The other thing to consider is most Israeli Jews do not want to live in a Muslim dominated society.
     
  15. LangleyMan

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    I guess you think Netanyahu is naïve, too, as he has suggested Israel may do just what I suggested.
    East Jerusalem was annexed by Israel in 1980.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Jerusalem

    https://www.un.org/unispal/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/The-Status-of-Jerusalem-Engish-199708.pdf
    And if they do, Jews will soon be a minority in Israel.
     
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    The term that applies to people that call themselves Palestinians is really simply called Arabs. The name Palestinians come from a reference to the regional name of Palestine. But Palestine has never been self ruled, nor is there any distinction between the Arab population and the so-called Palestinians. Therefore the name has absolutely no meaning in terms of race or nation.

    Giving the Arabs living in Israel a name allows them to rally international support. It is better to claim that the Israeli Arabs needed money to fight Israel which had won it independence Syria. I doubt that the term Israeli Arabs would garner near as much support as using the fake name of Palestinians.

    No it is not. Israel won their independence. Since then the Arabs have every means, with the exception of a nuclear attack, to dislodge them. This current conflict began because a few families are being evicted form lands that was originally owned by Jews, and is within the area known as East Jeurselam. That is territory that was ceded to Israel at the end of the Six-Day War. The fighting escalated to fighting between the Israel Police and Arabs outside the Al Aqsa Mosque. The Arabs then barricaded themselves into the Mosque. The Israel police used non lethal means to end the break up the crowd. In return, the Arabs within Israel then started shooting rockets into Jeurselam and Tel Aviv. Most of those rockets were knocked out of the sky by Israeli's very effective Iron Dome. But no matter how you slice it, the current conflict was started by Israeli Arabs.
     
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    Delivered by you? :roll: :roll:
    Relevance to what?
     
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    There is a price to pay for generations of political stupidity and military incompetence, and the Palestinians are paying it now. As the late Abba Eban said, "The Palestinians never missed an opportunity to miss an opportunity."
    Every death on both sides, and every loss of Palestinian property is to the Palestinians' account since they walked out of Oslo.
     
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    If he believes that that would end the attacks, and would be backed by Arab countries then yes he is naïve.

    [QUOTE="LangleyMan, post: 1072632920, member: 76487"East Jerusalem was annexed by Israel in 1980.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Jerusalem

    https://www.un.org/unispal/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/The-Status-of-Jerusalem-Engish-199708.pdf[/quote]

    Annexed yes, but they came into control of the area during the Six-Day War in 1967.

    [QUOTE="LangleyMan, post: 1072632920, member: 76487"And if they do, Jews will soon be a minority in Israel.[/QUOTE]

    You might want to check your statistics on that claim. The total of Israeli population (including Arabs) is 9,227,700. 6,829,000 are Jews or 74.24% of the overall population. Arabs make up the second largest demographic at 1,890,000 or 20.95%. Jews will not be a minority in Israel.

    Demographics of Israel - Wikipedia
     
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    True colors are already obvious. Israel is the only strip of land in the region where it is safe to be Jewish, Christian, Muslim, female. atheist, critical of government/religion, opinionated, or non-Muslim. Your claims of prejudice only apply outside Israels borders.

    Hamas does not care about Palestinians. They are kept angry and primitive to preserve their willingness to be used as pawns.
     
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    Carry on with your fairy tale. In reality huge numbers of those that stayed were massacred, you know, the reality being: Around 400 Palestinian towns and villages were depopulated – with a majority being entirely destroyed and left uninhabitable[1][2] – during the Palestinian Nakba in 1948. Many of the locations were repopulated by Jewish immigrants, with their place names replaced with new Hebrew place names.
     
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    Oh, please. Palestinians have been cut off from any other Arab identity--Jordanian, but also Syrian or Egyptian--and emphasized "Palestinian" that they had under the Ottoman Empire. Before the Jordanian peace agreement, West Bank Palestinians had Jordanian passports. Israel agreed that Jordan could cut the West Bank Arabs adrift.
    Rightwing American propaganda. Israelis are seldom this dismissive.
     
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    Those Palestinians can now enjoy the "Israeli" good life... like the sodomites who prance through the streets of Jerusalem.

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  24. Dutch

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    Unh... by Britannica? :D
     
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    A part of being free in a Democratic country, yes.
     
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