The 10 poorest states in America are....

I am not a fan of either of the elderly sex offenders. You and I have been paying taxes to maintain/update infrastructure our whole lives.

The :"Infrastructure bill" was just a bunch of politicians rewarding their own irresponsibility.

The mighty Inflation Reduction Act is a sales pitch that can be defined as "create a disease and sell a cure"

Im not here cheerleading the GOP. They not not much better.

The only difference between the two parties is how much they steal, waste, and who they give it to. If you want a preview of what to expect with unobstructed Dem control, look at California.

 

If you think that is true you haven't been paying attention the last 15 years.

 

The unemployment rate was lower under Trump in Feb 2020, the last month prior to the pandemic, than it is now.

More people died from Covid under Biden than Trump and Biden has a vaccine the whole time.

 

You always pontificate about 'results', and rely on only those results which comport to your predetermined narrative, and when the facts defy you, you ignore them

There's a word for people like you.

 

It is called "Being Correct".

 

Indeed Trump benefitted from the strong stable economy Obama left him, that is until he screwed the pooch. Just like it took all of Obama's 8 years to recover from the shitshow Bush left so it is taking time to unscrew Donnie's focqueJob.

AND

True, it's taken Biden some time to unscrew Trump's covid mess. There were 23000 deaths in Trump's last week in office. Last week there were 1,300. Thankjs Joe.

 

Having no loyalty to either of the parties, I have an unobstructed view. Since I live in Los Angeles, I can tell you what 15 years of Dem control leads. In spite of having abundant resources, high taxes, and Dem control, CA leads the nation in poverty. If high taxes created a thriving, healthy society, I would be a Democrat.

Results speak for themselves.

 

Because covid occured predominantly on Trump's last year, that's one year he had to deal with it, and it lasted another 2 1/2 years under Biden (WHO & HHS declared it officially ending in May of 2023). Of course there are going to be more deaths, vaccine or no vaccine during Biden and many Trump fans refused the vaccine, anyway.

Under Trump, the lowest unemployment rate was 3.5%, under Biden, it was 3.4%. .1% isn't that big of a deal.

But comparing jobs is well nigh impossible because the pandemic immensely distorted the economy.

https://www.wral.com/story/fact-check-did-trump-or-biden-create-more-jobs-over-30-months/21012411/

Gary Burtless, an economist with the Brookings Institution, a Washington, D.C.-based think tank, agreed, saying he finds it "ludicrous to argue that Trump should be credited with 100% responsibility for 100% of the job gains" for the first 30 months of his tenure "while Biden should be assigned 0% of the responsibility for the recovery of those lost jobs during his term in office."

"The recovery of payroll employment once President Biden took office has been strong and surprisingly persistent," Burtless said. "Should we give credit to the Biden administration for the healthy state of the current job market? It deserves some credit, certainly."

 

Ah, the ad hom fallacy. The preferred strategy for those unable to defend a position on merit. Do you have anything honest or relevant to contribute, or would you like to take more cheap insult attempts?

 

California? Isn't that the state Republicans left ion such a mess they had to recall their own governor?
AGAIN...
Leaving Democrats to clean up the GOP mess...
seems a theme doesn't it?
The GOP spends a decade creating a mess then complains because the DEMS haven't cleaned it up fast enough.

California is a lab example of what happens when wealth disparity becomes socially unmanageable.
The Top 10% of earners in CA get $360K 10x the median income.
Buildable land between The bay and the border along the coast is almost completely built.
No one wants to live in the valley which, in the summer is almost unlivable and is an impossible commute.
And none of these issues is the Democrats doing.

But, please turn your mind to the problem...
WWDD?
Cut taxes? Already a deficit.
Force lower incomes toward the mean?

What Republican ideas do you have to fix California?

 

The unemployment rate was continuing to go down until Covid.

The unemployment rate was lower because more people has stopped looking for work. The total unemployment, when the labor participation rate is factored in, was much lower under Trump.

 

NO, only results you listen to are those you allow to speak to you in order to comport to your predetermined narrative.

CA didn't even rank in the poorest 10, whether you used individual poverty rates or poorest GDP output.

Okay, what about the top ten WEALTHIEST STATES PER CAPITA?

1. 
   
   • Connecticut
   • Massachusetts
   • New Jersey
   • Maryland
   • New Hampshire
   • Alaska
   • California
   • Washington
   • Minnesota
   • Colorado

Out of 50 states, CA is #7.

We got the highest GDP, and #7 richest per capita.

You're such a cherry picker. You ignore stats that are good by dems, and blame what is the result of capitalism on dems.

CA is like a beautiful thoroughbred, but you only want to show the world it's anus.

Thanks a lot.

High taxes are necessary in a big state, we got roads to fix, school books and supplies to pay for, and infrastructure to maintain. Heck, in CA, a fellow can go all they way up to 2 years in college for practically nothing. Try that in Florida, were a years worth of tuition in tallahassee community college, a region with a lower cost of living, would cost about twice as much for a years tuition than in Los Angeles community college. Taxes pay for these differences.

Also, in CA, we have prop 13 for property owners who purchased a home a long time ago, so there taxes won't go up, and that has to be made up for elsewhere, but at least the elderly won't get priced out of there homes because of increased values. CA is one of the most beautiful states in the Union, and because of that fact, 8 million more people choose to live here over the next largest state, and so supply and demand drives up rents and housing, and that's because of capitalism, not 'dem policies'.

 

But Biden started out with a vaccine. It just became available at the end of Trump's term. The deaths should have ended almost immediately under Biden.

 

Not using the same measurements.
OR, as my daddy would say...
Figures don't lie but liars do figure.

 

Using government figures, the unemployment was considerably lower under Trump prior to the pandemic than it is now.

 

I realize you are use to the standard partisan bickering, but you will get no arguments from me when criticizing republicans. As long as you are not claiming to criticize with clean hands.

I appreciate you adding income inequality to the discussion. I am usually the one pointing out that Dem politicians work for the rich.

I also appreciate you bringing up the deficit since CA enjoys abundant resources (5th largest economy) combined with high taxes and Dem control. Can you tell us about CA's deficit?

The problem is that while Americans are at each others throats, politicians are spending like thieves with stolen credit cards.

 

I appreciate you bringing income inequality into the discussion., I am usually the first to reveal that Dems work for the rich. I love how you defend the extreme irresponsibility your party is known for by pointing out the beautiful landscape that politicians had nothing to do with.

I am not saying that I oppose investing in education. I do believe we can do a much better job for much less. My oldest son did an experiment. He made it through college without buying a single text book. He did all his research online and didn't bother to attend the virtual lectures offered during covid. He aced every class.

If dems are not capable of keeping the campaign promises due to "capitalism", why allow them to raise taxes to do what they claim will be used to do the things capitalism prevents them from doing?

 

There is no choice for conservatives. Trump is far to the left of where Clinton was. Clinton did not favor transgenderism or gay marriage. Clinton signed the welfare reform bill, the crime bill and an immigration bill. Each of those were far more important and favorable to America than anything Trump did. Clinton's policies would be considered far right fascism in today's climate. You can't even get a Republican to run on what Clinton achieved. There is no conservatism left in America. We have our choice of globalism or globalism on steroids. Democrats want to burn the country down in 10 years while the Republicans prefer to burn it down in 30 years.

I encourage you look up those three bills signed by Clinton. I think they represent perhaps the best legislation passed in my lifetime.

 

I'm supposing you're using "considerably" in the same manner as Trump describing his Mr Mushroom.

 

So, what you would do to "save" California?
And just as importantly, how does it impact people?

 

I live in New Mexico and it sure looks like we could use some of that income equity the left keeps blathering about. Where’s my check?

 

The total employment in Feb 2020 was 61.1%. The total employment in Feb 2023 was 60.1%. That one percent is about two million workers.

 

While your checking on a source for your more than year old claim...

Trump drove unemployment to over 14%
Thanks to Biden unemployment is down to less than 4%

That puts Biden 10% better than Trump.
Which is about how badly Biden will beat Trump in November.

 

wrong, Covid and the shutdowns drove those numbers. Thanks to Covid going away and lots of people who stopped working during Covid combined with lots of people holding TWO or MORE part time jobs-there is less "unemployment" now but inflation is a massive tax on those who actually work.

Biden sucks domestically, he sucks even more in foreign affairs, and it seems the only thing he does well is divide the country and balkanize America-which of course is what David Broder noted was the goal of the left after the USSR failed.

 

thanks to Newt and the 1994 revolution which was caused by two things

1) the Clinton gun ban
2) the Clinton tax hike