The 10 poorest states in America are....

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  1. garyd

    garyd Well-Known Member

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    You continue to miss the point Democrats have have had one or both houses of congress and the presidency more often than not since 1932 and the only difference between, neocons Bushies and democrats the bulk of that time has been tax policy and military spending. For more than 90 years now the Dems have been voting to tax more and spend more. Biden's week end at Bernie's presidency is the culmination of all that insanity. Biden is not challenging history he is history for the last ninety years.
     
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    garyd Well-Known Member

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    The point of the OP was as near as can be told from that word salad was that poverty in those states is because of Republican Policies And I and others have shown you why that is bogus. You continue to dodge the facts presented like a Matador on speed in an arena with 5 bulls. And note we haven't until now brought up unfunded federal mandates that force spending on things states often can't afford and don't want.
     
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    The price exists because of policy reason not the least of which are rent control zealotry on the part of homeless advocates.
     
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    Government policies don't cause poverty. It is a non sequitur. Poverty has many causes but government isn't one of them. It isn't any more complicated than that.
     
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    Whatever you need to tell yourself.

    How you can somehow twist what happens in bright red republican states to actually be the fault of democrats and seemingly nothing is the fault of republicans (outside of those dastardly rino’s of course).

    I really wish y’all could hear yourself sometimes.
     
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    garyd Well-Known Member

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    History is what it is. The world we live in right now was almost entirely created by Democrats. That is just the facts.
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes yes. You already stated your opinion

    It just goes to show that the people of this nation don’t need to give republicans a single office across the nation because they cannot take responsibility for anything.

    I wish we had a viable third party to replace them
     
  8. garyd

    garyd Well-Known Member

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    What part of the fact that for the vast majority of the last ninety years years Democrats have have held one or both houses of congress and the presidency as often as not do you not understand?
     
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    I'm going to guess you mean "crisis" not "price."

    Which, of course is silly.

    Homeless advocates "Advocate" because there are so many homeless.
    There are so many homeless because the costs are so high.
    The costs are so high because of a lack of availability
    There is a lack of availability because buildable land west of The Valley is completely used
    Driving prices of new single family beyond the reach of 70% of Californians

    Blame greed, lack of foresight...but blaming homeless advocates is akin to blaming doctors because people fall and get injured.
     
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    No Price is exactly what I meant as in the price of housing. California simply hasn't enough housing for everyone and the price housing reflects that fact. It doesn't have enough housing because of public policies such as rent control
     
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    I hope you appreciate the irony of you complaining about lefties ripping on “poor country folk” but then ripping on urbanites. Double-standard much???
     
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    Exactly what do you expect? We are in fly over country as if that is a bad thing. We have a good life, money or no money.

    I would not live in most of the blue states. I made a lot of business trips to California. Beautiful beaches, but you could not pay me enough to live there.
     
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    Enjoy your prosperous blue Utopias and enjoy sitting in traffic for at least 3 hours of your life everyday.... Suckers.
     
  14. ECA

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    Someone is not only arguing against a position I don’t hold but also doesn’t appear to know what ‘irony’ is. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
     
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    Maybe if y’all had policy outside of forcing women and girls have their rapists child, religious law, and tax breaks to the wealthy you would win more elections.

    Until you do Republican control will be limited to states resembling third world nations and they still won’t take responsibility
     
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    And yet California has almost 1/3rd of all people in poverty. Nice try. Artificial Idiocy strikes again.
     
  17. garyd

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    This is nonsense of course because you can't answer the actual facts.
     
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    The only question you have ask is you trying to provide an excuse for the failure of your party.

    None of it is non-sense as I can prove each item.

    But if you like you can continue to believe everything is the left’s fault because they haven’t allowed the right to rule with absolute control.

    There is a name for that — a few names actually
     
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    You used poverty rates in your post—I guess to make a point.

    But your poverty measure only accounts for income, not cost of living. California actually has the highest poverty rate in the nation.
     
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    I ran the numbers recently.

    There are more people living in poverty in California than in Alabama, Arkansas, Louisiana, Mississippi, West Virginia, Georgia, South Carolina, Kentucky, Missouri and Tennessee COMBINED.
     
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    Yeah, we have some of the richest areas and yet homelessness and poverty abound.
     
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    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    The premise of the OP wasn't to compare stats, it was to show how comparison of stats result in 'guilt by association' as a logical fallacy, that both repubs and dems play this game, which, technically speaking, is a post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy.

    So, you are dodging what the OP is about. (it had some other points, as well, but it really wasn't supposed to be about left or right causing this or that).
     
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  23. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    And California has about the same amount of people as Alabama, Arkansas, Mississippi, West Virginia, Georgia, South Carolina, Kentucky, and Missouri. combined, so it makes sense CA would have more of just about everything.
     
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    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    No, the point of the OP was about the post hoc fallacy, the 'guilt by association' fallacy.

    Try reading the OP, again.
     
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    No. California has more people in poverty because their poverty rate is higher than the poverty rate in any of the other states.
     

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