Looks like another Stormfront recruiting drive around here recently.

I wasn't addressing the things you said you agreed with. I was addressing the things you commented on. Point is....a bunch of links to threads were posted in the OP as "racist" threads. They were not. They were clearly legitimate news stories and/or legitimate topics for personal opinion. I got rid of one of them for flamebait and I merged a few others for being duplicates and I actually deleted one for not meeting min standards. Those actions are all related to rules.

 

Report them....if you believe they break a rule. I have no idea which two threads you refer to without more information. Again....report them with a note as to which rule you believe was broken. We'll take a look at it.

 

Your position makes ALL photographic evidence irrelevant. You provide no evidence, no indication that the photographs have been altered in any way. There is myriad evidence of its type taken at Tea Party rallies all over the country. The Tea Party has never made any effort to erradicate such influences from its ranks. It has tacitly approved the ignorant attacks on a man simply on the basis of his race.
If they are to be taken seriously regarding the rhetoric of being non-racist, they have to be pro-active in irradicating this element from among them.

 

That is complete BS. Unsupported by not only the magnitude of evidence, but also the lack of any appreciable consensus despite having a mountain of photo-documented rallies to look at.

Meanwhile, we have such as our own Congressional Black Caucus fomenting racism. We have the uptick in black on white crime. All of this is well documented, and which you are are fully aware of as you whine about it being documented.

Go cry a river somewhere else.

 

Do you think it's possible at least in some cases that it's actually Democrats going there with those signs? I've gone to a couple of Tea Party Rallies. Have you? And between the two I attended, there was only one sign that seemed inappropriate and racist to me. And you know what? The two young men holding the sign never spoke to anyone else there----people were getting away from them and giving them unapproving stares. They didn't seem to fit with everyone else there and were not welcomed. That's what I saw with my own eyes. Now what do you see with your own eyes when you attend a Tea Party Rally?

 

What is the official Tea Party policy on race issues, if it's not a rude question? Issues like immigration and so on?

It's not loaded, I am not US and don't know the answer.

Of course I have a presupposition based on posts on the forum, but facts are always equally useful.

 

A complete unwillingness for the Tea Party to make categorical statements from the stump against such practices, and a refusal to remove people who continue to promote such racism. I see a party that understands that it is appealing to these people and will let it remain and use it to recruit people with such views, while saying what a shame it is that such outliers are among them.
I see a refusal of the party to stand up against racists in their ranks.
Yes I have been, and seen amazing levels of ignorance that is being used by manipulators to ends they don't even realize they are being used for. I see the rank and file Tea Partier as a victim, a willing dupe.
That's what I see.

 

That seems unlikely, you've told me it about a million times. I'm sure they have heard it before.

And what? That is evidence of racism which was so bad it required to be addressed in law.

If positive initiatives were not enforced, no women would be working (outside unsuitable places misogynists are familiar with) and the same principle apparently applies/d to non-whites to the extent that positive discrimination was/is required to redress the balance.

It is to US credit these laws were enacted. It shows there are people in your country who do not uphold discrimination and who are not going to allow racism to continue.

Good on them.

Again, so what? They brought a case and were found to be correct.

None of which relates to the OP, btw, about what is posted on the forum.

 

HUGE difference between an event of political significance and some nutjob mudering his/her family members.

There are at least 40 murders a day in the US. Should we start a thread on each and every one of them each and every day?

In 2009 there were over 2,000 incidents of racist assaults on blacks. There were only 562 incidents of racist assaults on whites. Should we start a thread on each and every one of those?

 

Dunno how immigration qualifies as a race issue, but my impression is that the Tea Party merely wants existing immigration law enforced. I assume they want affirmative action done away with as well, though I don't think that's a high priority just now.

 

Any Center Right poster will more than likely not last there , Center Left folks even get in trouble for having an open mind as of late...

 

I rarely go away , I'm like a Localized shrub .

 

HUGE difference between an event of political and societal significance and some nutjob mudering his/her family members.

There are at least 40 murders a day in the US. Should we start a thread on each and every one of them each and every day?

In 2009 there were over 2,000 incidents of racist assaults on blacks. There were only 562 incidents of racist assaults on whites. Should we start a thread on each and every one of those?

 

More BS. Post credible links. Otherwise, you are saying that in 2009 there were less than one racially motivated attack against a white, by a black, per state, per month (50 X 12 = 600 > 562). Do you have any idea how pathetically stupid it is to even consider that ? Less than one per month ?. But you throw this crap around like its some divine fact. Meanwhile, you moan about threads that have valid links to current events.

Your contention borders on the completely absurd.

 

did not know there were still so many hate crimes against blacks

that is a good reason to keep the hate crime law to be able to define which crimes are robbery and which ones are hate

 

The facts are that there are a bout of racist posters, again. (I know cause they are posting a lot if inaccurate information about my country this time).

Another fact is that, as long as they do not break the TOS, there is nothing anyone can do about it.


But my favourite fact is this: These guys never last. They get out debated, and leave, or better yet, get out debates, lose their tempers, break the TOS and then get booted out.

So just be patient, like everything else, evolution takes care of idiocy.

AH

 

C'mon Viv, you know how to google, don't you?

 

One of the posters brought up the issue of black Congressional members being spat on...their statement, if I recall correctly...and we discussed it here at length. We also asked repeatedly for footage, any evidence that this had actually occurred. As far as I know, we are still waiting.
So its not to far fetched that much of the accusations are either made up, staged by the anti tea party crowd, or just as we see here so often by those who race bait with repeated nonsense comments or threads about similar issues.
As for eradicating racist elements...if there are any, they will be dealt with, just as many of us here call out those who make racist insinuations.
But may I suggest that those of you who seem to think, or have been fed, that tea parties are racist gatherings, go see for yourself. Get informed.
You and I may disagree with the ideology, with the small Gov pretense, but please, lets criticize these movements for what they really are, and not make up something, or heed some make belief.

 

Falena, I've probably done a grave disservice to this thread by leaving out that the links provided in the OP were just a sampling. I only went back a couple pages at most which probably wouldn't even have gotten through the day prior to when this thread was created.

I'm not calling for the deletion of all race based threads. I'm not even calling for the deletion of all racially motivated threads. There are threads of this nature that provide an impetus to discussion. Of course, more times than not, this discussion just breaks down into the baser arguments but that happens in many types of threads. I am, however, asking why such threads aren't moved to a more relevant sections. In addition, I question the validity of various threads of this nature whose soul purpose seems to be to paint one race or another in a negative light. Again, these threads don't have to be locked or deleted but they should be scrutinized for their ability to create discussion.

 

Indeed. But lets also look at the other end of the spectrum, some of the race baiters we have here, who come up with silly insinuations and overgeneralizations.
Its mostly flame bait, over and over again, on purpose, but they are still here. Patience seems to be expected from some more than others.
I suppose it will get worse as elections draw near, so may I suggest to report the evildoers, and ignore as much as possible, so that one doesn't feed their need for attention.
Perhaps that will indeed make them fade into the sunset, although, thus far, I have hoped in vain.

 

Exactly. If there's an 'official' policy,I sure don't know it. And being FOR the country's immigration laws to be enforced does not equate to being a racist.

 

Wow--you saw all that at a Tea Party rally?? Amazing. The ones I attended actually had black Tea Party members who were their featured speakers. (*)(*)(*)(*)ed good speakers too!

 

No. Actually you'd be better off writing some of your Dem leaders and tell them to stop the inflammatory race- baiting talk...before they stir something up.