Looks like another Stormfront recruiting drive around here recently.

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  1. toddwv

    toddwv Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There are sub-forums for everything. After the topic stops being Current, they will be moved to the appropriate sub-forum, I believe. I read it somewhere on here when I was acquainting myself with the rules, and I don't remember where.

    Best spray is ignoring it. The less often people respond, the lower it falls on the page. The lower it falls, the fewer people see it and respond. The fewer the responses, the faster it goes to another subforum (though, that's only for the Current Events ones). Political Opinions moves slower, but a day of no response will have it buried 2-3 pages down where nobody will find it anyways.

    People are allowed to post whatever they'd like. Obviously, some people want to discuss it. If people keep making the same thread, they can be deleted. If people just keep posting the same thing over and over, that's spamming, and that'll get deleted.

    If you wanted my opinion on how to logistically kill the thread, maybe start a group for the sole purpose of improving Political Forum. You can post up threads that you don't feel is representative of the forum as a whole, and as a group, you can boycott the threads. The real beauty of the idea is that the more people who agree that the threads aren't representative, the more effective you are.

    Heck, you could even post in other Political Opinion topics for the sole purpose of burying the threads. Now, I'm not certain if that is against the rules, but I'd be willing to bet it isn't a problem.

    *looks at the mods*

    <_<
    >_>

    *runs*
     
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    Yes, yes. We should just ignore it and it will go away.
     
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    Disclaimer; Caps for emphasis only

    A decision? If you are afraid of the freedom of free speech concept (which DOES suffer in these forums) please make that decision now and if you must go~ Bye bye. Personally, I do not agree with racism or violent radicals on the left or right. However, I do agree with their right of free speech. Not only that 'THIS IS A DEBATE FORUM'. ItÂ’s difficult to debate if everyone is a yes man eh? If your rebuttal is sound the truth will come out.

    Rev A
     
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    Eighty Deuce New Member Past Donor

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    What's next libs. Since Obama is black, criticism of him is racist, so we'll just throw anything "Obama" into the race-relations subforum.
     
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    Todd, you have 11 thousand posts to my 250 something....and even I know this place is a (*)(*)(*)(*) fest for anyone radical, from both the left and the right, and from every race, and creed (not to mention political affiliation and beliefs, I mean if you like the Tea Party here....your screwed....there's that much hate and ignorance). Personally I think the worst thing PF is known for is the Super Religious against the radical atheist. That has to be the worst one.

    Either way you'll just have to shut it out and ignore it like the rest of us. Although I suspect you know this and are trying to bring it to light to the staff - good luck with that (if they truly took out hatred and ignorance here half the forum would be gone).
     
  8. toddwv

    toddwv Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That is incorrect. Topics apparently NEVER stop being "current" as long as some blogger flogs the dead horse. Case in point, the birther threads. The birther threads were spammed on a daily basis even though little to nothing had changed in their position or information for YEARS. Now to be clear, I joined in some of those threads frequently so this isn't a claim that all the threads are rubbish.

    The trolls bump their threads and either use their socks or their cohorts to keep the thread up. Plus we have a LARGE contingent of outright and "(*)(*)(*)(*) proud of it" racists here at PF who are MORE than happy to keep a
    blatantly racist thread alive.

    I'm sorry, but you are wrong there. People are NOT allowed to post whatever they'd like. There are rules.

    (5) No flame-bait threads or posts. Threads or posts where the sole intent (either by topic, title, images or language) is to elicit emotionally charged responses or personal attacks from others will be deleted. This especially goes for any form of hate speech. It is up to the moderators' discretion to determine whether or not a given post falls into a particular category. Continuing to start flame-bait threads and/or continuation of making flame-bait posts may lead to infractions and eventual banning.

    (2) Creating threads: We will be taking a hard line with new threads, to keep the board from drowning in substanceless threads. The point of the forum is *discussion*; threads that don't promote discussion will likely be deleted. In particular, the following types of threads risk being deleted without notice:
    • One-liner threads

    • Threads containing just videos with little or no commentary (it's the video version of a one-liner)

    • Threads that do nothing but promote the poster's blog or other outside site.

    • Threads that lack elaboration, links or other content that might actually lead to discussion.

    • Duplicate threads. We'll merge threads, within reason. But if there are already six threads on a topic, we'll probably just delete the seventh rather than go through the effort of merging it. If you want to avoid that, use the search function to check whether a thread already exists before starting a new one.
    Note that it clearly states that this is a "discussion" site not a KKK message board.

    There are CERTAINLY threads concerning racial matters that are worthy of debate.

    However, the application of the rules seems to be lax in regard to requiring a thread to stimulate debate. For instance, how much quality debate could possibly stem from 10 threads about how such and such group wants to start a "race war" or how 2 threads each day about how 1 out of 40 murders today was committed by a black person?

    We already have a group structured for this purpose. It's called Forum Mods and Advisors. Their sole purpose is ostensibly to improve the Political Forum. They have their own sub-forum and messaging system.
     
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    Yes, please. Feel free to completely misrepresent my post.
     
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    I only criticize his white half. I don't even recognize the black half as being qualified to be president.

    How can I be racist if I only hate the white part?:psychoitc:
     
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    There are accepted exclusions to the unmitigated "freedom of speech". This is a DISCUSSION site and has its own modifications to the concept ostensibly to promote discussion and reduce the more viscerally induced exchanges.

    These rules seem to be lightly applied when dealing with race motivated threads.
     
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    toddwv Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    A prime example of an off-topic post that is typical of a race-baiter's attempt to flamebait.
     
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    toddwv Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    To be clear, I'm not demanding that all race related/motivated threads be deleted on site. Quite the opposite. I also happen to feel that exposing the racist troglodytes for what they are is a worthy pursuit in and of itself and many such threads, regardless of which side of the aisle from which they originate, serve this purpose.

    Yes, there are threads that should be deleted on sight but it's NOT the purpose of this thread to have a policy instituted that strictly prohibits DISCUSSIONS of a racial nature. However, that doesn't mean that they should be permitted to violate rules or allowed to clutter up multiple sections.
     
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    Stormfront banned me (They are Punks & Wannabees):bored:
     
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    Wassamatter ? Somebody tinkle on your race-bait parade here ?

    You know what they say Toddy. "If you can't take the heat, get out of the ........... " :)
     
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    I didn't misrepresent your post. But your definition of racism is misrepresented.


    We may have racists...white and black...who post. But "La Raza" is a topic all should know about.

    Current events are current events.

    Separatism happens when there is racial discourse.

    You don't ignore it and make things better. You confront it head on and make change.
     
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    I'm confused. Is "kitchen" a dirty word? I had no idea.
     
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    La Raza /Mecha /Reconquesta:gun:
     
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    We have periodic infestations on here. When they pop up we just spray them with logic and facts and they eventually go away.

    Typically what happens is that one of them will wander onto the site and start spouting the same crap he spouts on racist forums where everyone agrees with him. He then gets annoyed that his retarded assumptions (which are taken as "fact" on the racist forums he is used to) are actually questioned on here. That people expect proof and expect details explaining his logic.

    So to get people to agree with them they have to import racists from other forums. Thats what starts these infestations. The new racists are basically cheerleaders for the original one. Eventually when it becomes obvious that they are greatly outnumbered and will never be able to convince anyone of their views (what with all the inconvenient demands for "evidence"), they get bored and go away.

    This cycle typically repeats about once or twice a year on average. The vast majority of racists really cannot defend their positions at all unless you accept their personal assumptions as fact. So on forums like this they get routed pretty easily. Their arguments only really work on racist forums where everyone already accepts their assumptions.

    We did have one racist on here years ago who was actually pretty intelligent for a racist. He could logically defend his positions fairly well. But that was years ago shortly after I first came here. Dont know what ever happened to him. Since then all the racist users we've seen on here are only good at spouting predictable propaganda based on stereotpyes. Their arguments have no teeth.
     
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    Just as the Social Justice Far Left arguments ...
     
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    Yes, PF want's to be known for this, and this only. Sorry to see you go, todd.
     
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    I've been in this kitchen a LONG time. I have no problem with the heat.

    Every good cook knows to throw out rotting vegetable and meat before they stink up the place.
     
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    PF is mostly DU lite and with a few more accepting and knowledgeable mod/admins
     
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    What is DU?
     
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    toddwv Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Ducks unlimited?

    Never been to that site...
     
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