Can The Mods Undertake Action Against The Wave Of Islamist Threads?!

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  1. protectionist

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    Maybe the mods will take action. If they do, it's my guess it'll probably be against you. LOL.

    As for your repeated use of the B word, and your baseless charge of "known extremists", you've been repeatedly challenged to SHOW evidence. You haven't. You big mouth is that and that alone. And I;ve come up with plenty more than just book titles. Like this for example :

    Stealth Jihad is THE method of operation of the Muslim Brotherhood as was revealed in the 1991 Explanatory Memorandum...for North America, discovered by the FBI in 2005, and declassified in the Holy Land Foundation, Hamas terrorist funding trial in 2007 & 2008.

    The key words from it are :

    "The process of settlement [of Islam in the United States] is a "Civilization-Jihadist" process with all that the word means. The Ikhwan [Muslim Brotherhood in North America] must understand that all their work in America is a kind of grand jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and "sabotaging" their miserable house by their hands, and the hands of the believers so that it is eliminated, and Allah's religion is made victorious over all religions."

    Mohamed Akram, "An Explanatory Memorandum on the General Strategic Goal for the Group in North America" May 22, 1991, Government Exhibit 003-0085, United States vs. Holy Land Foundation, et al.

    And this :

    "Men have authority over women because God has made the one superior to the other, and because they spend their wealth to maintain them. Good women are obedient. They guard their unseen parts because God has guarded them. As for those from whom you fear disobedience, admonish them and forsake them in beds apart, and beat them." (Quran 4:34, "Women," Dawood, p. 83)

    And this :

    the Supremacy Clause says : "This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding."
    That "any Thing in the Constitution" part includes the 1st amendment.

    And this :

    Names associated with Stealth Jihad (AKA Islamization)

    Ibin Taamiyah, the Madhi, Sheik Ahmed Yassin, Sami al-Arian, Ramadan Abdallah Shallah, Mazen al-Najjar, Richard A. Clarke, Imam Muzzamil Siddiqui, Susan Douglas, Peter DiGangi, William Bennetta, Gilbert Sewall , Prince Alwaleed bin Talal, al-Hajj Talib'Abur, Rashid Sahmsi Ali, Khalid Latif, Omar Mohammedi, Joe Kaufman, Chantal Carnes, Hasan al-Banna (creator of the Muslim Brotherhood-I'll give you that one), Tariq Ramadan, Siraj Wahhaj, Mozen Mokhtar, Nouman Ali Khan, Abdul Malik , Imam Jamal Badawi, Br. Jawad Ahmad, Hassan Abbas, Mullah Abdul Rashid Ghazi, Sheik Mjed 'Abd al-Rahman al-Firian, Prince Sultan Ibn Abd al-'Aziz, Ali al-Ahmed, Itamar Marcus, Barbara Cook, Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab, Ahmed Omar Abu Ali, Mohammed Osman Idris, Mohammed el-Yacoubi, Abu Abdullah, Baitullah Mehsud, Yunis al-Astal, Zeyno Baran, Aaron Klein, Muhammad Abdel-El, Sheik Yasser Hamad, Nur Mohammad, Ahmed Yassin (deceased), Sheik Abdel Rahman, Sheik Mohammed bin Rashid AL Maktoum, Abdullah Azzam, Fazlur Rehman Khalil , Mohammad Elachmi Hamdi, Bat Ye'or, Max Steenberghe, Anders Fogh Ramussen, Paul Jeeves, Yusuf al-Qarodawi, Bashar al-Assad, Robert S. Leiken, Theo Van Gogh, Michel Gurfinkel, Imam Ahmed Salam, Piet Hein Donner, Miguel Angel Toma , Salah Yassin, Hassan Nasrallah, Ahmed Assad Barakat, Ahmad Mohamed Ali, Joey Musmar, Lina Morales.

    And this :

    Things associated with Stealth Jihad (AKA Islamization)

    Hijra, jizyah, Istanbul, Al-Quds, Al-Aqsa mosque, , treaty of Al-Hudaybiyah, Oslo Accords, the Mahdi, Al-Ansar, 2006 Pentagon report : "Motivations of Muslim Suicide Bombers" ), "The Project", the Muslim Brotherhood, the Ikhwan, Taqiyya, Da'wa, Council on American Islamic Relations (CAIR), Holy Land Foundation trials - 2007 & 2008, Khalil Gibran Academy, US Treasury Dept. (Office of Foreign Asset Control), Islamic Society of North America (ISNA), Muslim American Society (MSA), United States Counterinsurgency Manual FM 3-24, US Justice Dept. report - 2004, US Justice Dept. report - 2007, abeds, North American Islamic Trust, Islamic Council for North America, United Association for Studies and Research, Muslim American Youth Association, the Hamas Charter, Islamic Academy of Florida, Palestinian Islamic Jihad, American Youth Academy, New Horizons Schools, Islamic American University, DawaNet-to link • to serve: Home with sections entitled "How to Make America an Islamic Nation" and Da'wa in Public Schools, Excelsior Elementary School, Thomas Moore Law Center, Islamic Saudi Academy, "The Islam Project" by the Council on Islamic Education, the Arab World History Notebook, "Across the Centuries", California Academy of Sciences, "World Cultures : A Global Mosaic", American Textbook Council, "Islam and the Textbooks", Arab American Family Support Center (AAFSC), Mosque of Islamic Brotherhood's Boy Scout program (MIB), Americans Against Hate, CAIR Watch, the Young Muslims, Islamic Circle of North America (ICNA), Jamaat-e-Islami, Young Muslim Sisters (YMS), Middle East Media Research Institute, US Commission on International Religious Freedom (USCIRF), Freedom House, Institute for Gulf Affairs, Palestinian Media Watch, "Contemporary Problems", "History of the Arabs and the World in the 20th Century", Reading and Text Part II, Association of Independent Schools, ISA accreditation, Center for Religious Freedom, Hizb ut-Tahrir al-Islami, Islamic Party of Liberation, Al-Aksa TV of Hamas, Hudson institute, Popular Resistance Committee, "Schmoozing With Terrorists", US House of Representitives, Abu Dhabi Investment Authority, "Eurabia, the Euro-Arab Axis", European Union, the Arab League,"Foreign Affairs" - "Europe's Angry Muslims", Organization of the Islamic Conference (OIC), Sharee Council of Dewsbury, West Yorkshire, Immigration and National Security Program at the Nixon Center, Sukuk, Sharia compliant banks, Saxony-Anhalt, piggy banks in England, foot washing basins (Kansas City Airport & University of Michigan), "Britain's Daily Mail" - "Multiculturalsim Drives Young Muslims to Shun British Values", Nationa Intelligence Council, www.islamonline.net, "Valeurs Actuelles",
    And this :

    "The Qur'an in verse 33:49 states that no 'Iddah is prescribed for a woman who has not had intimate contact with her husband, but goes on to stipulate the 'Iddah for pre-pubescent girls in verse 65:4, meaning: the holiest text of Islam supports marrying and having sex with prepubescent girls. This is definitive proof that the Qur'an endorses pedophilia, the most abominable of all sexual crimes." (WikIslam) http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Pedophilia_in_the_Qur'an

    And this :

    "On January 15, 2010, the Department of Defense released the findings of the departmental investigation, which found that the Department was unprepared to defend against internal threats. Secretary Robert Gates said that previous incidents had not drawn enough attention to workplace violence and "self-radicalization" within the military. He also suggested that some officials may be held responsible for not drawing attention to Hasan prior to the shooting.[130] The Department report did not touch upon Hasan's motivations, including his multiple contacts with Anwar al-Awlaki, and his yelling "Allahu Akhbar" as he began the attack["/I].[131] (Wikipedia)

    And this :

    http://loganswarning.com/2011/02/19/“allah-is-dead-–-why-islam-is-not-a-religion”/

    http://www.islam-watch.org/IW/aboutus.htm

    http://avideditor.wordpress.com/200...ion-nor-is-it-a-cult-it-is-a-complete-system/

    http://www.halfsigma.com/2011/01/islam-not-a-religion.html

    And this :

    Seditious conspiracy (18 U.S.C. § 2384) is a crime under US law.
    "If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined or imprisoned not less than 20 years, or both."

    And this :

    http://www.omegatimes.com/article.php?intid=1330

    http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2004-08-13/news/0408130198_1_pork-discrimination-muslim

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,291569,00.html

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16472393/#.Tt41Wnq2IpM

    http://blogs.washingtontimes.com/weblogs/aviation-security/2008/jul/19/the-flying-imams---act-two/

    And this :

    https://barenakedislam.wordpress.com/category/islamization-of-the-west/

    http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/wanted_terrorists/adnan-g.-el-shukrijumah

    http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread577199/pg1

    And this :

    http://www.islam-watch.org/IW/links.htm

    And many more, but you already knew that. LOL.

    PS Note : I had to shorten the Islamization Quiz to fit this all in (word maximum)
     
  2. protectionist

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    The person I'm talking to is an Islamist, a supporter of the Muslim Brotherhood dedicated to destroy America, and a enemy of America. Wouldn't matter if he was American, Syrian, Israeli, Icelandic, or from the moon. Also doesn't matter if he's a veteran (so was Timothy McVeigh), and we only have his word for that.
    His word ? LOL.
     
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    The quote of mine that you quoted is again the answer to you now, as well : "Originally Posted by protectionist ***
    "But the sources he gave (the australian.com, newsyahoo.com, & dailymail.co.uk) are accurate for what he quoted. So the stories also appear in jihadwatch. What of it ? Lots of stories appear in a dozen or more publications the same day. Why pick out jihadwatch ?"
     
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    You have "actually" just made out fool out of yourself.
     
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    Oh My!

    Tell me...do you have a plastic sheet on you bed?
     
  6. protectionist

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    That's pure censorship and totally absurd. There are 100 things about Islam (each one a seperate subject) that could be posted every day.
     
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    What is that supposed to mean ?
     
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    Just that you seem overly concerned with silly things.
    Its wise to keep an eye on these Islamic Fundamentalists...just as its wise to keep an eye on the Christian Fundies and Zionists. But you seem to be doing all the "keeping an eye on" for the whole world. It must make you extremely nervous in the quiet hours of the night.

    My advise...get over it. And if you need something to blame...blame organized religion. THAT'S where one of the main issues lies.
     
  9. truth and justice

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    The funny thing is, is that he thinks people bother to read his extremely long list of random names and links. Quiz anyone! Or perhaps I am the only one who skips many of his posts; I doubt it though.
     
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    There are several posts in which I have made points about Islam. These inds of spurious personal pot shots have no bearing on this.

    The scope of the problem has been repeatedly outlayed, and in each case teh rebuttal from the lot of you, takes the issue as spelled out and takes it to an illogical conclusion.

    The number of posts that deal with criminality in the Islamic world, and teh repeated question of whether your ilk would tolerate the repeated display of criminality in Cristian Nations along with the continuous accusation that it represented Christianity or the West, and whether it would be good to call anyone who disagreed a terrorist.

    No response.

    But clearly, its everyone else who is a gutless coward.

    Trolling, flamebaiting, and transparent and repeated insults are already forum violations, not censorship. Claiming the mantel of liberty to excuse abuse is not right.

    You are, again, in violation of the TOS.

     
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    Neutral New Member Past Donor

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    And teh problem is you guys only post about one: criminality somewhere in the Islamic world.

    Stop making excuses.
     
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    It's already been addressed.

    Muslims are allowed to preach and proselytize. Somehow that is actually a stealth jihad.
     
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    Something you've done 2105 times and counting.

    Especially whenever you post The Quiz! and expect people to take you seriously.

    Why don't you e-mail the lead clown Robert Spencer your quiz, and see if he does it ;)

    Salam
     
  14. Brewskier

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    Apparently you're not even reading my posts, now. I also acknowledged a moderate Muslim majority, although, I am sure we have very different ideas about what "moderate" means, and the size of that majority.

    Hyperbole. The site isn't capable of being able to catalog every crime in the Muslim world. Not enough server space or bandwidth.

    Your mental failing is that someone who doesn't agree with you is automatically labeled a "mean spirited bigot". It's a dishonest attempt, by you and others like you, to silence opposing opinions. You're not interested in debating the topic, clearly. It's no wonder you want discussion shut down.

    Moving the goalposts, again? You accused me of reporting someone to the FBI. Let's see your proof. Otherwise, it's just another instance of you making claims and not being able to back them up.

    You're not very good at debating.

    Funny, none of those show me reporting anybody. It's hilarious that you spent time looking for those, and that's the best you could come up with. :mrgreen:
     
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    Anyone who doesn't want to view his threads can put him on ignore. That's been your solution, the whole time. But that's not enough, is it? Like all leftists, you want to make it so that nobody can read his threads or participate in them.

    Let's test your hypocrisy. Should moon's anti-Israel/anti-Jew threads be merged into one thread per day, also? There's been numerous times where 3-4 threads will be generated detailing something that happens in Israel, or by a Jew, somewhere in the world. If not, what's your explanation of this obvious double standard?

    On the contrary, they will see just who is flame baiting and trolling this thread. I'm sure they will detail all of your name calling, off-topic rants, and ad-hominems. Your gestapo tactics are not impressing anyone.
     
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    Glad to see you admit you are wrong.

    You're a projection artist. Nobody has been name calling more than you, buddy. Take a look in the mirror, sometime.
     
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    "I support Hamas all the way. - OJLeb

    Like I pointed out in the other thread, here we have a self-proclaimed "moderate" giving full support to a terrorist group in a foreign country. Thank you for proving many of my points.
     
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    Exactly dear, I made it obvious that I quoted and whom I quoted by adding quote brackets and giving credit to you for your words by saying "originally posted by protectionist". I'm not pretending your words are mine, which is what this poster does with the words of the authors of various opinion pieces on articles of the australian.com, newsyahoo.com, & dailymail.co.uk etc.

    One does not have to be an academic or highly intellectual to see the problem, that you refuse to see. Maybe taking off the tinted glasses of partisanship would help.
    A German politician recently lost his job for the kind of cheating this poster regularly engages in. But obviously it's ok in this forum even though the rules state otherwise.

    So if there's anybody out there who doesn't have scruples to just copypaste opinion pieces of loonwatch etc. and start threads with them, go ahead. Assuming that the mods are neutral in questions of which forum rules they enforce and which they don't care about, they'll let you.
     
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    How does your repeated use of the term "ass clown" fit into your definition of the TOS?
     
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    And it took you 20 insult laden posts to spell this out?



    It is certainly capable of posting every single one of them from jihad watch though isn't it?

    And the simple question is whether each of them need their own thread, or whether or not the question of prevelance of violence in Islam can be confined to fewer threads? i.e. do we need eight individual threads on a single day that ask the same question?

    There is also the question of behavior. Quite frankly, anyone who makes a solid case against the Islamophobes is subjected to abusive behavior. Unfortunately, thse posters who spew the most about violence in Islam are also the most abusive and least capable of the debators on the subject.


    Your mental failing are the repeated insults and barbs such as this.

    YOU are the problem.

    Once again, no debate about Islam - just nore insults and more attacks on the poster. Let me remind you again:

    There is no discussion from your side. And what you are doing is not protected free speech - its just a bunch of emotional insults.

    You've been quited four times doing it. Perhaps you should look up the term obtuse? Think headed? Dishonest? Curmedugeon?


    Oh, you took a statement about moderate Islam and then stated that you had the right to report me, and others, for criminal terrorist threats.

    Everyone knows exactly what you intended.

    We see who is taking this thread off topic, which is ultimately the goal of extreme Islamophobes, to derail any criticism of their bigotry.
     
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    Its been addressed by the mods. I am allowed to call Islmophobes ass clowns.

    Have I splipped and called a few staright ass clowns ass clowns? You bet.

    Now detail your failings. Or shall I list the insults you have tossed out?

    At least one of us is honest enough to acknowledge where they have slipped up. No such luck from the Islamophobes and the personal animosity.
     
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    Yep, people have opinions about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. There are two sides to it.

    YOU have no right to brand someone a terrorist for claiming that they support Palestine's right to self determination - even Hamas, which experts aroud teh world agree has to be part of the solution.

    In sharp contrast, in that same thread, we see how you respond to being called a neo-Nazi - which is of course off base, right?

    Like I said, its all you got, and it certainly did not prevent your from insinuating that I am terrorist either did it?

    It is a simple abusive tactic and you are no angel, nor is the tactic in any way justifed.

    IMO, someone running around calling people terrorists (or neo-Nazi) is little more than a troll and should be infracted and banned.

    If the best you can do is call people terrorists who disagree with you, then you might as well acknowledge you either have no intellectual ability to make a case or no case to make.

    The goal is civilized discussion, not finding excuses to justify what is clearly flame bait.

    So, as I have asked several times now, without calling people terrorists or otherwise insulting them, what do you have?

    The answer is the biased sample fallacy of jihad watch. I.e. no case at all.
     
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    Well, one of us actually quoted you doing it - you still deny.

    Why don't you count up the insults you have tossed out? Or would that also be a strawman?

    Is this the same as the number of posts question? In which several posters count them up and point to the problem in numeration, and then it ijust becomes a strawman?

    Your posts are laced with dozens of insults and yet you sit here and complain? With no numbers? No checking? No data? Nothing.

    Once again, the intent is just to flame bait and derail. After calling people stupid, terrorists, deliberately misquoting people, now your case is about how others are mean to you?

    That is TOS violation stud:

    What you are doing is neither debate, nor is it protected free speech. Quite the opposite, it is a deliberate attempt to shut down a dissenting voice. Nothing more than that.
     
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    Oh look a section lifted straight from a bunch of extremists websights and bunch of random names including ... boy scouts?

    As I asked you earlier, do you have a legal packet or intelligence assessment to go with any of those names? Or are we just supposed to take the collected works of an extremely biased organization at its word?

    We should ignore our military leaders as well?

    After all, the last one we examined resulted in the arrest and conviction of exactly six people - out of well over a billion mind you - and what they were convicted of was funneling money to Hamas, not your stealth jihad.
     
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    I was being sarcastic. :mrgreen:
     
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