Can The Mods Undertake Action Against The Wave Of Islamist Threads?!

Can the Mods -- please (!!!) -- do something about the wave of threads about Islam, Muslims, etc.

There are seperate forums around the internet who mainly focus on that subject, and I believe PF.com isn't one of them.

I understand that the Mods can only kindly ask some posters to change their posting behaviour, can't force them -- but maybe the Mods can move the threads to the appropiate forum, e.g. religion.

Thanks,

Janpor

 

Report the ones you think should be in a different forum, and we'll take a look at them.
Thanks,
JP5

 

Having a similar problem with a big wave of anti-UK threads down in the Western Europe forum. Any suggestions on how to deal with this, Janni?

 

idk? maybe the UK could suck less?


just a thought....

 

I haven't spotted any anti-UK thread on PF.com whatsoever!

Please show me some, so that I can kick that poster's ass!

 

That would be picking a side (Judgemental)

 

be careful! their ass might kick back!

 

Most could be automatically redirected to the http://www.politicalforum.com/zionist-agenda/ forum

 

I completely agree as you know, being a lifelong advocate of dissolution of the UK union.

However, those repetitive threads are like the toothache and repetitive anti-UK is equally as tedious as anti/pro-Islam. If we Euros have to put up with that continually, why shouldn't Precious put up with some pro or anti-Islam if it so happens the Arab Spring is big news and people want to post about it?

Or is freedom of speech something else the EU has banned, Janni?

Ja ja Jannie, get to it then...

And that's just not British.

Did you just call me an ass? (again)

 

i remember...but until that day, you're one of them.


(is there any chance you could get me Pippa's number????)

i would never! you'd beat me past the point of likeing it.

 

You b*****. I am a Scot, not one of those made up union messy flagged interlopers.

Anybody can get it, she's whining about it's no wonder she's single as any man would be intimidated by the amount of Press attention/harrassment she gets. She's open to offers (the Press allege. Probably married with 10 kids then).

I'm too lazy to beat you, keep calm and carry on...

 

you forget i have a bad leg and can't run away.

 

LOL, you guys are funny.
Pass the popcorn-

 

Sorry Jan, but Islam has a political and legal affect on Western civilization. Keep in mind that the Western media reports on the actions of Islamists as they report on the actions of Israel or the UK.



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Well, how about the ones that are obviously about how Muslilms Murder, are bad people, are all terrorists, and eat small children, and put them in the conspiracy section?

Its not like the people making those threads, who then make more of the same kinds of threads, are interested in debate anyway.

The ones that are geuninely curious questions about Islam ... those are fine wherever they pop up and actually start a conversation.

However, and of note, how long would a conspiracy theorist last on this forum if he started numerous threads about how dumb black people are? About how lazy Mexicans are? About how women deserve to be hit?

Some subjects are clearly not about debate at all. A discussion about Islam, warts and all, is well within the bounds. A drubbing of extremists bashing Muslims with no actual referrence to the religion, its doctrine, (save a few select quotes), and in obvious ignorance of the culture, practices, and teachings of the religion is just not debate.

It is, IMO opinion, something akin to racism. Just as logical and debateable at any rate, which is to say not at all.

So, to paraphrase GEN Petreaus, most poeple, despite their often large differences are reconcilable and rationale, some people are beyond reason and still need to be killed or captured.

This is not a battlefield, but the same mindset applies. Most discussions are fair game, but some people on this subject are beyond reason and need to be treated accordingly (not killed - for the record), but a conspiracy theory is just that.

 

Several forum members have been requesting an "Islam-agenda" conspiracy forum for many years now already, and the strong need for such is clearly evident. Yet, since the vast majority of Islam-hatred is heavily tied to Israeli illegal settlement expansions, the http://www.politicalforum.com/zionist-agenda/ forum would work too until the Islam-hating conspiracy theories have their own place too.

 

Anyone can discuss the Israeli-Palestinian conflict without bashing either Juddaism or Islam. Given the nature of the conflict and the fact that BOTH sides have drug religion into the issue, it is perhaps unavoidable to some extent in that context.

That context has little or nothing to do with posters trolling the AP to report every minor crime in the entirety of the Islamic world as crime is something that is only found in the Middle East? To accuse Muslims of murder and worse? To selectively cull portions of reports meant for extremist Islam and then pass it along as if it were the entirety of Islam.

Again, if someone where to REPEATEDLY start threads about how greedy and cheap Jews were, well, must have something to do with the Israeli Palestinian conflict? Really? Or is it just simple bigotry?

Would that be any different than starting a thread about the need to beat women ... because that person has issues with the treatment of women in Afghanistan - obviously.

The intent of the forum is about debate, and this particular subject and those who post on the nefarious elements of Islam, are well past debate in most cases. In fact, they drown out legitimate discussion on the subject with the constant refrain of accussations and innuendo and basically block any substantive discussion on engagement with Islam and block any cross cultural interaction with the Muslims from even taking place on the forum.

How is this helpful? Not simply cyber bullying?

May as well start threads about screaming at a wall for the effect it will have on the Islamic conspiracy theorists.

 

Segregating threads? Segregating forum members?

What about forcing all members with an anti Israeli bias to post in one area, or anti Christian, or anti U.S.A....or anti whatever?!

It discourages open dialog. The very reason I assume each of us joined PF.

Obviously, there is already an option to report post that one deems offensive. Or (as I do), you may chose to ignore the post or thread entirely. No one is forced to read or contribute to a specific thread.


Just my thought.

 

Well, lets put this in perspective.

#1 - the forum already separates posters. What do you think it does with trolls and malcontents?

#2 - No one is saying that Islam is off limits to criticism. What they are complaining about is a few posters who post dozens of threads that essentially make the same maligning claim - Muslims suck no matter what!

#3 - when one poster starts 15 threads in a single day that all highlight violence somewhere in the Islamic World, is the intent to debate violence in the Islamic World? Do you need 15 threads in one day for that? Five the next? 12 the Next? Then three more? Etc.

Posters who do that very much annoy other posters, because the antics such as that simply have no intention of discussion, debate, or civility.

Like I said, if someone poster 17 threads in a row about the righteousness of beating women, I am pretty certain people would be offended. If I started 15 threads a day that basically highlighted violence from African Americans and totally avoiding violence from all other ethnic groups - even in communities with higher violence levels from other ethnic groups (and groups like Storm Front do this) - I am not debating am I?

I am spreading malicious propoganda motivated solely by bigotry.

Nothing civil in such intentions in the slightest. Our actions segregate us, and it is clear that the number of threads on the subject is beyong the intention of debate on teh subject and the COMMUNITY is asking that something be done to reign in the propogandists.

Elsewhere, we call it SPAM.

 

Neutral,

Obviously you and I view the subject differently.

As a member of this community, I can only speak to my feeling on the subject.

In no way do I feel compelled to respond to a specific thread, if for whatever reason I deem it inappropriate or otherwise unsuitable for my taste. For me at least, that is the responsible adult approach, rather than imposing my personal feelings/ideology on others, by attempting to restrict their voice/opinion.

As I mentioned previously, there is already a system in place to report post/threads that one may find offensive. From my perspective, things are moderated fairly.

Regards

 

I have no problem discussing the issue of violence in Islam, indeed have done so both on this forum and dealt with the reality of it in my profession.

What I take issue with is not the subject, but how the subject is being addressed by a small percentage of posters who are clearly extremists on the subject.

Take a look at this:

http://www.politicalforum.com/search.php?searchid=3223477

500 threads, all started by JUST ONE poster, and all of them deal with exactly the same subject - violence in Islam?

Eight threads on the SAME SUBJECT started on the SAME DAY?

That is not about a discussion of the subject at all. The intent, day after day after day, is not debate - it is to TELL US what this posters opinion is EVERY SINGLE DAY.

If I started a thread about bondes being better than burnettes or the opposite, OK, nothing wrong with that subject. Now, if I did that EVERY SINGLE DAY, a half dozen times per day, and ended EVERY one of those dicussions with - Burnettes are just better so go screw yourself - what does that have to do with a specific thread or subject?

Thanks for sharing your opinion, this is a debate forum not a shout down forum.

 

Are these news articles that you are complaining about? This thread seems to be an attack on free speech on topics that are in the
world media on a daily basis. If a problem is in the world media on a daily basis perhaps it really is a big problem? Killing the messenger is
a despicable tactic.


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I agree, thank you as well.

But now I have a different issue... I've noticed when I try to open links, like the one you provided (from PF), I get a message..."Sorry - no matches. Please try some different terms."

Grrrrrrrrrrr



Perhaps I should ask an Advisor about it. lol

Take care,

 

The Debate over the existence of Israel (The Tiny Jewish State) is one sided .

 

Some of these posters enjoy accusing American veterans of not being American citizens:

http://www.politicalforum.com/lates...ms-seek-750-million-compensation-army-20.html