America Has Turned its Back on God

If God means HOPE... then yes, for me, the re-election of Obama means I have no hope other than what I can do which I have not already done or been capable of doing... and that includes nothing which is legal.

So... yeah, American has turned its' back on GOD and everyone he might have helped through his minions here in America.

 

Any Catholic that voted for Obama should be excommunicated. It is that simple.

 

Actually, slavery is explicitly approved in the Bible, I recall down to prices for slaves being set.

 

What makes America so much more pleasing in God's eyes than, say, Israel?

If you want to argue it's because America is rich, remember that Jesus said it is easier for a rope to go through the eye of a needle than a rich man to enter the Kingdom. (BTW rope is considered by scholars to be the most accurate translation, not camel.) Jesus made it quite clear that power and prestige did not make someone worthy in the eyes of God, and that earthly power should be scorned in favor of a life of piety.

Americans worship the Almighty Dollar, not the Almighty God. It is idolatrous. But somehow electing Barack Obama is more offensive than a culture that says the poor are worthless, that life revolves around money, that we should disregard everyone but ourselves.

Sinful nation indeed.

 

Who died and made you Pope?

 

Rope? Eye of a needle?

Not in any translation I have ever seen. I do know what this means but you have absolutely no credibility here!

Earn it and show me the translation. I know there are some language issues and meanings change.

 

Good, the concept of running your life by the whims of an immortal dictator is contrary to the very basis of a free and democratic society.

 

No, dear! Once again you got it wrong!

America didn't turn its back to God, GOD got tired of being used by the right for hypocritical propaganda, HE got tired of the bigotry, self-righteousness and nastiness of "so called" Christians.

God got sick of being assigned the manmade image of the "old, White man," with a long beard and a vengeful, narrow minded temperament.
God got tired of ridiculous, exclusive and bigoted man made dogmas being assigned to him for political gain, and . . .

GOD TURNED HIS/HER/ITS back on those who USED HIM/HER/it that way: the extreme, hyper religious RIGHT

 

That's good to know, but I guess that eliminates original sin.

 

That sounds more like a punishment out of practical considerations rather than divine intervention.

For example, I don't assume that God specifically is punishing someone for trying to defy gravity if they jump out of a window. I just assume that gravity kills them.

 

I'm just wondering how you can possibly claim that America has turned away from "godly principles" because of the actions of modern people when we had real monsterous acts seen as normal in our past.

I think you would be a little less hypocritical if you said that America never had God favors or held godly principles. If you aren't willing to say that, then you must be saying that the massive evils we committed in the past were godly.

 

LOL!! Ha-Ha!

 

Sounds like good parenting to me...

 

Jesus had a deep and abiding concern for the poor. In fact, it's all through the Bible, from Genesis to Revelation. Scripture does not tell us "Make the poor go out and get a job." It does not tell us "Teach the poor to help themselves." It does not tell us "Help the poor if they vote the way you want them to." And Jesus reserved some of his fiercest anger for people who favor the interests of the rich at the expense of the poor.

Matthew 25:34-36 Then the king will say to those at his right hand, "Come, you that are blessed by my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world; for I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me, I was naked and you gave me clothing, I was sick and you took care of me, I was in prison and you visited me."

For the life of me, I do not see how any believer can support the Republican party.

 

Well being as most right wingers are already ignorant there will not be much change there then.

 

Being flawed and human with faith in the All Mighty is not the same as having faith in yourself and not recognizing the All Mighty. I find it funny how some people blame the acts of flawed but faithful men on the God in which they believe.

Today we have flawed men with faith in nothing more than flawed humanity.

 

Though I disagree with your tone I do agree with the base premise of you post and I have said much the same.

 

No, unfortunately, americans have not woken-up to the fact that the god thing is a mythological scam.

 

I don't have a problem with 'faith' (many people need it). I have a problem with certain people seeking to IMPOSE their faith.

 

Helping the poor and destitute is on the believer but one should also make and effort. Satan knows the Bible well and you prove this.

 

That's a pretty impressive list of verses. Almost none of them have anything to do with the Christian command to feed the hungry. And you are correct, helping the poor and destitute IS on the believer.

 

You do realize that all those verse are only helpful or "impressive" if one is ALREADY a believer.

Otherwise, it is just a circular argument!

 

"Earn it?" I don't have to earn anything in your eyes. My argument's worth and my worth aren't contingent on what some random guy on the internet says.

But if you're curious:

http://www.biblicalhebrew.com/nt/camelneedle.htm

"An alternative linguistic explanation is taken from George M Lamsa's Syriac-Aramaic Pe(*)(*)(*)(*)ta translation2 which has the word 'rope' in the main text but a footnote on Matthew 19:24 which states that the Aramaic word gamla means rope and camel, possibly because the ropes were made from camel hair. Evidence for this also comes from the 10th century Aramaic lexicographer Mar Bahlul who gives the meaning as a "a large rope used to bind ships"."

It makes more sense to translate it as rope than as camel. But the people of the ancient Mediterranean world were big on what we would consider puns or word play.

 

Now Newt is an example of a god-fearing man. And, he should. Anyone who announces his divorce to a breast cancer victim while the wife is still in the hospital recovering from surgery should be looked to for moral guidance. NO monster he. Rewriting would have been necessary. You know, I disagree with everything (nearly) Santorium had to say as a candidate, but I would have preferred him to the other Republican candidates because, at the least, he was a man of honor and a goodly splash of pure intelligence.

 

Why is important to be religous to be a good person? I don't need lessons from the Bible to act socially acceptable, I can very well be kind without being asked by a higher entity.