Trump is a bad person. Why would anybody vote for him?

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  1. TomFitz

    TomFitz Well-Known Member

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    The only explanation I can think of is that most people in the Trump cult don’t really know very much about him or his life.

    when he was his father’s front man in the Hyatt deal and Trump Tower, he built a flimsy “celebrity”image in Murdoch tabloids and the National Enquirer.

    And then came the “reality”show, further promoting Trump’s self manufactured phony image.

    And he promoted his own taste for vulgar excess into an “upscale” brand (at lease in the minds of downscale people).

    This is what Trump nation bought.

    Anyone who read the business press knew that Trump was nothing more than a sleazy real este developer spending his daddy’s money. We were also well aware of Trump’s tendancy to stiff his partners and subcontractors. His list of defaults and litigation was long even before 1990.

    Banks stopped lending to him, and his holdings float on an ocean of Russian debt. This was also well known well before he rode the esculator.

    That pattern of betrayal has been a constant throughout his career to the present day.

    The misogyny goes hand in hand with his business ethics.

    But people who don’t read, or make any real attempt to understand the real world around them are easy prey to peddlers of celebrity gossip and phonies. Instead, they buy the fakery.

    Oh, and his blatant and constant appeals to white resentment and bigotry is also a very obvious factor.
     
  2. Turtledude

    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    that's not a constitutional right and it is oft abused at least 90% of these asylum seekers are bogus. I know, I spent 4-5 years dealing with these cases
     
  3. Turtledude

    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    the same claim is more true about Biden-=45 years sucking on the public tits and being almost a complete zero in terms of accomplishments. lots of people voted for Trump because they were sick of mediocre third rate lawyers living in DC and acting like royalty
     
  4. Turtledude

    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    One of the main reasons for voting for Trump is that many of us are tired of the lies and hysterics that come from the Trump bashers and even more importantly, their woke leftist agendas
     
  5. Pro_Line_FL

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    And vast majority are rejected, and the applicant it sent back South

    You are bothered by lies, and yet promote the "king of lies" for POTUS. Go figure.
     
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  6. Noone

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    Really? Tell us what are those lies?
     
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    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    you know well that Trump is the best (of two poor choices) for a professional shooter such as me and the Democrats started lies about Trump before he even took the OOO
     
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    we have one person who howls that Trump is a "convicted rapist" in every post-for starters. we had the Russian collusion bullshit splattered all over this board during the first years of Trump's administration.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Torturing children is most definitely NOT a constitutional right. And your excuses to try to convince yourself that it's ok to vote for somebody who has committed such a horrendous crime against humanity, should not ease your conscience.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    You'll vote for Trump because somebody told you that he was a convicted rapist?
     
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    That has literally nothing to do with the debate.

    Jill’s book sales were legitimate, as they was an actual transaction and delivery of a product.

    Now if you think thats a way for people to funnel money to the Bidens, wait until you hear about Trumps plan to sell “stocks” in Truth Social….:razz::razz::razz:
     
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    So that give him a pass on being a person bankrupt of moral character, totally unqualified to be a trusted member of society much less President of the United States? He has a track record as president of getting steadily worse with every passing day in that job that culminated with an attack on our Capitol.

    Are you saying that because people call him names that is justification for voting for a man who's last year in office was abysmal and who's first year in office will pick up where he left off. This time aided by the Heritage Foundation's plans to gut our government of everyone that knows what they're doing and replacing them with tRaitor tRump sycophants?

    That crazy talk.
     
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    Are you talking about your messiah? Vulgar, vacuous and repulsive certainly fit well.
     
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    why do you ignore answers to this question I have posted dozens of times

    I don't care about the soap opera bullshit that seems to bother so many on the left.

    You don't like his policies. You never have been able to articulate objective personal reasons-rather we get this nebulous bullshit that Trump's a "tRaitor" etc.

    I on the other hand have given several logical reasons why I will vote for Trump

    1) his justices have proven to follow the constitution
    2) he is not engaged in class warfare against productive Americans
    3) he didn't encourage the BLM anarchy
    4) he is not pushing the radical wings of the alphabet agenda such as allowing failed male athletes to compete against girls for creepy men to use girls lavatories
    5) he is not using race instead of merit for appointments
     
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    so tell me-would her books havre sold well if she was just married to another third rate attorney?
     
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    Democrats......lies...... People from all walks of life have resented that guy for decades, and only when he decided to become a politician all his critics were suddenly labeled "democrats" because in politics you see only two kinds of people, - the "R"s and the "D"s. In real life the majority people are neither R or D. That guy has been a sleaze-bag all his life. There is no need to lie about his past, because its as nasty as it gets.

    He'll grab your guns as soon as it becomes a popular thing to do. That's how populists roll. You going "all-in" promoting him might make you a very sad person one day.
     
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    your failures to even attempt to properly interpret what others have posted is really getting boring. People like you who hate Trump is a good reason to vote for him given the level of complete rejection of reality in your arguments
     
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    so tell us-which President is more likely to ban guns in my lifetime
    and tell us which judicial appointments would be more likely to allow that
     
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    Donald Trump, and I just explained why. A populist will do whatever becomes popular, because they lack principles, and simply appease whatever happens to be popular. Dems can't ban anything even if they wanted to, but Trump can because he is republican his party will support whatever he supports.
     
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    well here is where we disagree. and I suspect I have far more ties with the pro gun movement leaders than you do
     
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    Your 'ties' are 100% irrelevant in the matter.
     
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    At this point discussing why anyone would support or not support poo diapers is beyond me and Melania. Stay tuned.

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    your opinion which is not based on logic, nor on what pro gun groups (who have paid analysts evaluations campaigns) is far less valid than mine. and you know that but this desire to be contrarian appears to TRUMP logic
     
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    have you ever figured out that people who think as you do is a major reason to vote for Trump?
     

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