Israel as Superpower

So you don’t know what irrelevant means

 

Your opinion

 

Those dying are civilians - especially women and children.

And, the various branches of Gaza's defense are still fully operable.

Israel has achieved NONE of its stated goals.

Of course, they do not state the goal of killing all Palestinians in Gaza and West Bank. But, the IDF have been given orders to kill all they see, no matter their age.

So, they drop bombs on playgrounds and slaughter doctors and patients, burying them deep underground with the hopes of their work not being found.

There are children and adults dying of starvation while semi trucks of aid are blocked by the IDF.

There are well marked aid workers and press murdered by the hundreds.

There are drones that broadcast women and children calling for help, with those who come being killed.


The IDF is failing. And, they are embarrassed at their own total lack of humanity.

This will NEVER be forgotten. It identifies Israel forever, even though so many protest in Tel Aviv.

 

I just do not see indications of Israel "winning".

The fighting groups aren't going to quit, and Israel isn't forcing them to quit. They can not "genocide their way out" of this conflict THEY created.

Here is some footage of Gaza fighters carrying out operations along with a discussion of the situation of fighters of both sides in Gaza.

The Gaza fighting groups send along photographers and then cut so they can't help the IDF and then publish them, usually in about a day.



It's thus possible to see what happened along with what Israel SAYS happened!

Sound is cut, as youtube and other filters listen to content.

 

Well founded

 

Wow, the IDF are under strict orders to murder all civilians and they can only manage 1% after over 7 months while taking out 20 out of 24 Hamas battalions.

Those IDF are worse than stormship troopers at aiming!

 

Why do you keep double responding to the same post. Mad scramble to copy paste what Hamas handlers are feeding you?

 

Indeed.

 

That kind of degradation of Hamas battalions is absolutely false.

No, as I understand it they are under orders that it is perfectly OK to kill any Palestinian.

 

I thought you might possibly be interest in how Gaza defense forces are operating.

 

So the IDF took over virtually all of Gaza without killing Hamas? Did Hamas go to sleep? Forget to fight? Too cowardly so they ran away?

 

I’m interested in a coherent argument not laced with lies and terrorist propaganda. You have proven unserious at that task for the entirety of the war. All that’s left is mockery to you. Please enjoy as I continue to dish it out.

 

This is nice and all and I like Israel. But this is no reason to starve 300k people to death to kill a few terrorists. Israel is great. Their leaders suck and have taken the country down a dark path.

 

What I gave you is very obviously NOT a lie.

It shows that the IDF is NOT making progress against Gaza's defense that is sufficient to claim that there will be Zionist victory.

 

No reason to read past the first sentence in most of your posts. Been there and done that with you. You’ve been educated on genocide countless times and you still regurgitate it, having failed to learn the very basics.

All that’s left is mockery of what you devoutly and faithfully believe. It is all it is good for

 

Yes, the leaders have. I hope their population will press for change.

 

The very basics are that Israel is waging genocide against the people of Gaza.

Numerous nations concur. Serious investigators concur. IDF defectors concur.

If have an argument, it would need to counter all that has been found.

 

See? You haven’t learned the very basics. Still get it wrong no matter how much I or anyone else educates you. I might as well be talking to a robot.

 

If you had something to say, you would say it.

 

That's hardly evidence, especially when NATO nations helped repel the attack.

You could try more trusted resources.

https://www.janes.com/

 

Actual success in an actual real world attack is “hardly evidence”? Well I’m glad I at least moved you from “OP has no evidence” to “OP has hardly any evidence and no im not going to specify why I think that other than reference they “had help” to which i won’t contextualize at at all and ignore that the OP acknowledge that fact”.

Sorry, but whatever failings the OP has, your counter argument is orders of magnitude worse

 

The US military is now building a dock in Gaza to facilitate humanitarian aid. Why? Because the zionist prick israelis, our "allies" as they claim, won't let us use, like, israeli roads. As I have said many times before, israel is not a US ally, they are a US liability. A cancer that needs to be cured.

 

Amen.

We can't contribute a rational way forward while being no more than Israel's arms supplier. American should be leading, standing on solid American principles.

Instead, were debating how many bombs to give Israel for Netanyahu's genocide. And, listening to Netanyahu order Biden to crack down on protesters!!


I just heard that Hamas and other Palestinian groups are meeting in Moscow to plan a future for Palestine - a government that would be acceptable to the world, etc., etc.

How did we get so confused about OUR role in this world?

Israel can not possibly win. They've achieved NONE of their objectives and have lost their standing in the world. And, the result means some really serious changes are coming.

 

Wholesale slaughter of Palestinian civilians is NOT success.

They haven't met ANY of their military objectives. And, their rampant slaughter has lost them all but the USA - which is not going to hang on much longer.

America has lost its way in the ME in a magnificent manner. We no longer provide leadership of ANY kind. Our big debates are on how many billions of dollars of bombs to give Netanyahu so he can kill more civilians. When did we start thinking that was "world leadership"?

 

Bad spin. The Europeans haven't been fighting wars except in small, police actions. When it came to weapons used by Ukraine against the Russians, some of the European made weapons have been very effective. In another action, French jets, for example, wiped out a column of Libyan tanks on the way to Benghazi.

Trying to spin another way? I just said "evidence" that 9m people are more important than technologically advanced Europeans with 200+m people is a stretch.

Try a reliable source, like...

https://www.janes.com/osint-capabilities/military-threat-intelligence/country-assessments