⚤'The words "cis" and "cisgender" are considered SLURS on this platform!' ⚤

Simply put the left no longer has a monopoly on outrage. It worked for the left, we will see if it does the right

 

It’s interesting that you find it offensive that women are stereotyped by trans women while at the same time saying there isn’t room for more than one type of woman.

I’m guessing you haven’t thought through your positions with any kind of critical lens.

 

Yes, now everyone can be hysterical! This is the best timeline!

Edit: Wait, are you saying that the right has not engaged in outrage in the past? War on Christmas ring a bell?

 

The right has rightfully acknowledged the various prejudices that exist towards Christians. This is very real. Now it appears they are ok with outrage over the nonsensical as well. Yes, this is better than simply allowing the left to be the only ones.

 

The war on Christmas was always hysterics driven by news media. The majority of Americans are Christians and somehow the commercialization of Christmas has been an assault on them? Give me a break. That’s capitalism, baby!

 

Incorrect, the prejudice Christian’s face is very real and manifests in a multitude of ways.

 

Yes, yes. I’m sure your life is very hard. It must be difficult to be a victim of such vicious tyranny.

 

I guess if that’s your reason, that’s your reason. It’s a pretty weak one. I hope you’ll forgive me not respecting it.

 

Rejecting pedophile ideology that is currently targeting children is weak? Really? You want to rethink that?

 

That’s the thing. It’s a very simple concept that some people try to make complicated. It’s not. If you have confusion as to what a “normal” man is than there’s no point in the conversation. Normal is normal. Abnormal or exceptions are NOT normal. A woman taking hormones and trying to look like a man is NOT NORMAL for example. If that’s confusing than I don’t know what to tel you.

And new words can be added and changed when there is real mass acceptance. NOT coercion. And MENTALLY ILL people shouldn’t be the ones redefining language. Sorry. Man and Male are interchangeable. There is no difference. AGAIN. rare Exceptions don’t matter. And what someone THINKS they are, really doesn’t matter. Someone “feeling” like a man is as legitimate as someone feeling like an ostrich, or a different age or a different race. Mental illness doesn’t determine language. And it certainly doesn’t determine 3rd party perception.

 

Your reason for being offended is weak.

 

I feel like you’re unclear as to my position on what makes “Normal Man” less clear than “Cis Man.” Let see what we can do about that.

I’ll start with the easier of the two. “Cis Man” means one thing: A male who identifies with the gender most commonly associated with males, which is man.

“Normal Man.” Am I talking about the same thing as what I mean when I say “Cis Man?” Maybe. Or maybe I’m talking about the things that he likes to do. Maybe I’m talking about his accomplishments. Am I saying that he’s not extraordinary? Maybe. Probably need a bit more context, right?

That’s where the utility of the prefix Cis becomes very apparent.

Exceptions come up. It’s useful to have vocabulary to discuss them.

 

No its not, the fact that you are not offended is very telling..

 

Are you offended that the US is a federal democratic republic?

 

There isn't room for a man to say he's a woman. Saying it doesn't make it so. It's interesting that you think someone can change reality by simply "thinking" it.

 

Sure there is. Doesn’t hurt you or anyone else. Gender, like many things in society, is a social construct and is open to change as we see fit. If there is utility in allowing a person to identify as a different gender, then we as a society should allow it.

I’m not sure what you mean by changing reality.

 

As long as you keep using “identifying” as a qualifier to what you are, you’re already mentally ill. You do t get to identify as something except in your own head and what you “think” means nothing. All that matters is what is.

CIS doesn’t exist. It’s a made up term invented by a Pedo. There’s just being a man or woman with very rare physical exceptions. Issues with the brain doesn’t change biology. That’s just mental illness. You can certainly identify as whatever you want. It doesn’t mean anyone has to agree with your perception. That’s why it’s a dysmorphia, your brain seeing what’s not really there. Skinny people seeing a fat person. Obese people seeing someone in great shape. A man seeing a woman. It’s all mental illness. It’s not normal.

Your position is there is no normal when it comes to biology and therefor you’re irrational and illogical. Not worth any more of my time. CIS isn’t necessary. There’s just man and woman with rare exceptions. The exceptions can have names. All the mental illness is just mental illness. Not surprising this mental illness only exists in the first world

 

All terms are made up. We didn’t dig them up or discover them in some way. We encountered a thing or concept and created language to describe it.

This thread isn’t really about whether or not trans people are valid, so it feels a bit silly to take it in that direction.

My position is not that there is no normal. Trans people are a minority and by the very definition of the word would not be considered normal. Cis people are the majority and would therefore be considered normal.

You seem very emotionally invested in this topic for something that probably has a minimal real impact on your life. Do you come across people calling you cis outside of the Internet? I live in a pretty progressive city and I don’t think I’ve ever engaged with this topic offline.

Sorry I’m not worth your time. Im sure that’s because that’s true and not because you don’t know how to engage with my posts.

 

RE: The Bolded Portion -

What are we but a Suit of Armor made out of meat/flesh/bone that pilots the thing that differentiates us as sentient beings and not a giant walking meat sack.

If your brain thinks a way, then that's who you are. The whole point of this, is to give people the freedom to allow their brains to be the captain and allowing that captain to customize the ship as they see fit.

I think the real mental illness here is the weird desire to control other ships and forcing those captains to conform to you and what your captain thinks. Which kind of goes against individualism, which is supposedly a defining trait of conservatism. Or at least it used to be.

 

lololol you must be young if you think the Right has never been outraged at things in society.

 

I like this analogy! Fun and accurate!

 

Normal doesn’t need another term. It’s just normal. It’s just man or woman. By trying to replace normal with CIS, the gender identity cult, like yourself, is trying to REMOVE what normal is to CONVERT language. You’ve admitted it as such. You don’t want anyone to be normal normal. Your goal is normalizing the abnormal. You want to shift the table. I don’t agree.

You people are already trying to legitimize Pedos by renaming them MAPs. You don’t like the negative connection of a term so you invent a new term. And you’re trying your hardest to remove male and female with CIS to add identity qualifiers. Creating new fake pronouns. Sorry. No thanks. YOU want to normalize mental illness. Destroy society. Spread Anarchy. Clean the slate.

And your tactic of saying you care too much it doesn’t effect you. Just like pronouns didn’t effect me until it did. Just like men playing women’s sports didn’t effect me until it did.

Your tactics are transparent.

 

I’m not trying to get rid of the word normal. There just more concise and useful way to convey the concept.

“That’s a normal man…”

“That’s a not normal man…”

What did those two sentences mean? You don’t know, do you? If only there were a better way to describe these things. Wouldn’t that be nice?

Things and concepts don’t stop existing just because you don’t like them. Better to be able to talk about them effectively.

I don’t use or advocate for the use of MAPS. You should find someone who does if that’s the conversation you want to have.

 

I'm sorry but what?