REPORT: Cops Quitting At ‘Unprecedented’ Numbers In Portland

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  1. ImNotOliver

    ImNotOliver Well-Known Member

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    They were trained to kill?
     
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    I'm sure it's safer than Chicago but you would not know that with all of the protests and the violence that follows.
     
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    If your employer were to cut your pay rate, would your income increase or decrease?

    When I attended college, there was a bit of memorization at some of the lower level classes but beyond that, not really. After all, there are a few basic mathematical and scientific ideas upon which everything is built. Like the idea that a line is the shortest distance between two points. Or Newton’s laws of motion. But I didn’t just memorize something from a book. There were labs in which I could try out and experiment with what I did read in a book. Doing and seeing things in action, cements those ideas in one’s mind much more than rote memorization. Many classes required me to write a paper, some to give a talk and have other students and teachers alike criticize my work. Originality and creativity gave one bonus points. I once gave a talk on the nitrogen cycle. I have always found nitrogen fascinating. In nature it is mostly inert, forming stable bonds of N2 in the atmosphere, the most abundant particle in the atmosphere. Nitrogen is necessary to life yet hard to come by. I had a lot of fun because I got to talk about poop in front of an academic audience. Graphics and all. And how important poop is to sustaining life.
     
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    To hold someone in place with a knee on a neck. They were trained to do this for an indeterminate amount of time.

    Much like those very few who have tazed someone only to find that it killed the person. If one is doing as one is taught and certified to do it is on the training not the person.
     
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    Facts elude you.
     
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    Ahh, you’re one of those folks who think GDP is the absolute measure of success. We’ve already determined the states of Colorado and Oregon are more in debt than Idaho. Did you know Mississippi is #2 in the nation for food stamp usage nationally at just under 22% of residents using them? Guess who’s #5 nationally at just under 20%? Yep, Oregon.

    When you reference GDP alone you are not accounting for cumulative debt (that I’ve been pointing out), environmental costs, education, standard of living, wealth/income inequality or personal liberties.

    For example, you think Oregon’s GDP is a measure of success, yet all the states you’ve disparaged (Dakotas, Idaho, etc) have much better educational systems. Only Mississippi out of your examples at #46 lags Oregon at #40 nationally in education.

    Another example is environmental costs when comparing urban vs. rural. Cities shift almost all their environmental cost onto their peripheries, including everything from energy environmental costs to food production environmental costs.

    The “G” in GDP stands for “gross”. When you figure net benefit from GDP we often come up with a very different result. Just like rural counties in Oregon subsidizing urban counties. :)

    Of course my facts square with what you see on Wiki etc. You just don’t have an understanding of what you see. My facts are based on US Census data. LOL. Your posts are based on your unsubstantiated opinions and misunderstanding of data.
     
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    Ata boy! :applause:
     
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    Hate crime. Federal civil rights case.
     
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    Not at all!

    In almost ALL of black suspects are adjudicated determined to be a justified killing, including the ones that are plainly ridiculous.

    And if "cops are murdering white suspects and no one cares" (not true), whose fault is that?

    Maybe, rather than you trying to justify unarmed blacks being murder as "OK", maybe you could help prosecute white killer cops of white suspects (or at least fire the killer cops) and get rid off these riffraff, if lots of innocent white suspects are ignored!?

    Just a thought.....
     
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    How would it kill you? what was he, made of glass? Are you so fragile that it would kill you? If he didn't have drugs in his system he would be alive.
     
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    It's no big deal. In fact, everything is totally fine.

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    It's pretty normal to have innocent people attacked in their cars on the streets. It's normal for the police to be run off by "peaceful protestors" attacking them physically. It's not big deal to have people doing heroine on the streets... and crack. It's not worries that business have to be closed due to the crime and destruction of property.

    They'll be fine.... this is the new normal brought to us by... the Democratic Party.
     
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    Nearly every municipality and county government in the country is guilty of underfunding both police and fire departments.

    It is, however, the TRUTH, that it's the big LIB quagmires that blow their horns about how they're going to slash their police departments -- I didn't make that up! Why would I? Let the 'militants' who live in these big LIB pesthole towns do their own talking!
     
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    Breaking somebody's neck is really quite easy. So is strangulation, depending on the angle you assume when you place a 200lb man on your neck for 10 minutes

    **** this, I'm not going to argue the point. Fine, shooting one directly in the forehead with a 38 caliber bullet shouldn't kill you either, It's only a small object and you probably had smoked marijuana at some time in your life. Drug Crazed Darky gets just dessert yet again, America, land of justice.
     
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    I’m sure you think you know what you are talking about. And I am sure that you think you know more about what you are talking about than I am sure that I know what I am talking about.
     
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    I find it odd, the logic people use to justify police wrong doing.
     
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    So you would prefer to abandon logic and call.it wrong doing when they were trained to do what they did
     
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    I’m sure that if you knew what you were talking about you would be able to address the limitations of GDP statistics. You would be able to comment on educational failures of Oregon or the shifting of environmental costs to rural areas.
     
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    What are they? Trained monkeys unable to think for themselves?
     
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    They are u trusted to use force to control.dangerous people

    No.after how it is done things can go wrong such as the examples I cited of people dying due to being tazed

    But they still have to do control people like Floyd and can only use the training they received

    If they do something furnished NOT been trained to do people like you still blame them and they have no ground to stand on


    You can't have it both ways
     
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    I should just ignore you, but you are so funny. I agree, a great number of the people in Oregon are ignorant and poor. Lots of birth defects. But then that is a characteristic of the Northwest. Idaho has the lowest average educational attainment of any state. But then I come from Boulder Colorado which has perhaps the most intelligent, most educated, most environmentally conscious citizenry of any city. A city of physicists and rock stars. There is a stark contrast.

    There was a day when Oregon’s economy was built entirely upon logging, fishing, and agriculture. Cities and towns were created to serve the needs of those industries and the people who worked them. But that time has passed. There are machines that allow two men to do the work in one day, that once took a hundred loggers a week. Finance, international trade, high tech and manufacturing have taken over. All city based activities. Even though Oregon is one of the top producers of Christmas trees and lumber, that sector of the economy, agriculture and forestry, accounts for only about 6% of the economy.

    Most of the rural vs city fights in Oregon have been over forest protections. There are rural folks who think that they have a right to the natural resources of the state, more so than the millions more who live in cities. Turns out that there is more value in having protected forests for city dwellers to enjoy at their pleasure, than for the short term financial advantage of a few. In Colorado, the state has actively marketed Colorado as a tourist destination, at tax payer expense, which financially benefits rural folks. For many decades.

    Interestingly, a great portion of the intellectual talent in the Portland metropolis comes from outside the state. The greatest problem in Portland is the dislocation of the natives as gentrification makes room for the new comers.
     
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    If cops do wrong, cops will try to cover it, regardless of to whom the wrong is done, to white or to black.

    But it is definitely true that cops will approach black suspects with more caution, more apprehension, more "trigger itchy" if you will, for obvious reasons, and they'd be "derelict of duty" if they weren't. Sorry for being politically incorrect.
     
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    "splanation" should not equate to "justification" for someone who went to college! :D
     
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    And yet the fact remains, rural counties in Oregon subsidize Portland. The demographics of Boulder have no bearing on those facts. You do realize Boulder is king of the anti vaxxers as well?

    And even with all that modernization and city based activities, Portland still has to be subsidized by those backwards loggers and farmers. Sad.
    I’m sure rural Oregon residents benefit from state spending on tourism as well. Paid for disproportionately by rural counties who pay more taxes to the state per capita than Portland. It’s too bad all that intellectual talent can’t pull their own weight and have to be subsidized by rural folk. Those intellectuals should be ashamed.
     
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    no, breaking someone’s neck is NOT easy. In army combative dive put a **** ton of strain on peoples necks and had a **** ton put on mine, certainly more than that cop just putting his body weight on that guys neck. Strangulation is easy if you apply the hold just right. A knee on the neck like that won’t do it. The original evaluations were correct. The physician the family hired later to say the knee contributed to the death was definitely paid off.
     
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