11-Year-Old Boy Dressed In Drag Dances At Gay Bar, Gets Dollar Bills Thrown At Him

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  1. guavaball

    guavaball Well-Known Member

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    Where did I change the definition? Quote me.

    If you are going to fabricate facts you will be called on it.

    Its clear you are emotionally frustrated because you cannot dispute the numbers I've given you.

    Once again making things up does not help your case. I'll point to the two posts again with the data. Post # 1101 and Post #1118

    Can you address it or just keep throwing out worthless insults and fake claims with no factual backing? Its up to you.
     
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    I am confused because a minor would not be allowed to do that in a bar
     
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    Oh that's easy. You deny it here, but you confess it in your following quote:

    What pedophilia? I just mocked you linking these gay men with pedophilia like you're living in the jim crow era of your father. lol
     
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    Colombine Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I read your posts and understood your contention but until you can accept that homosexual pedophiles are not represented (to a higher statistical degree than heterosexuals) within the group of persons who self-identify as LGBT individuals whom you claim represent 4 to 5% of the population "at best", there's really no point in continuing.

    If you add up all the people who have had any type of homosexual desire for any other human, regardless of age, the the absolute number of "homosexuals" (by your definition) skewes far higher than the 4 to 5% you claim to exist "at best".

    The greater number of "homosexuals" there are (by your definition), the lower number of pedophilic offenses occour per capita in that group. That's what per capita actually means; in case you didn't know?

    Since no studies have ever been undertaken to ascertain the number of "homosexuals" who exist per capita in the general population by your definition, no meaningful ratio can be determined.

    I can say with certainty though that if you add up the number of "homosexuals" who exist per capita in the population using your definition of what constitutes a "homosexual", it's going to be a heck of a lot higher than 4 to 5%.

    I can see this. The entirety of the, accredited, medical and social services organizations in the western world can see it but you, for some reason, just can't or won't.

    No worries, your numbers are dwindling rapidly. You have no political capital (even Trump won't carry your water) so, it's effectively over for you.

    Enjoy the twighlight. I know it was a buzz but, all good things.....
     
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    What you provided was bovine excrement by homophobic bigots that FAILED to withstand scientific scrutiny.

    Multiple genuine peer reviewed studies have been provided which REFUTE and DEBUNK the homophobic bovine excrement that you posted.

    However the Cognitive Dissonance those genuine studies are causing to the homophobic bigots is glaringly obvious in the content of their posts. They are stuck in a kneejerk denial feedback loop of their making. In essence they are proving that they incapable of learning from factual data that exposes the fallacies of their homophobic bigotry.
     
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    I CANNOT prove that he was, but I'm not saying that he WAS! Can YOU prove that he WASN'T suffering?
     
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    How many times do I have to repeat myself? The pedophila act of an 11 year old in drag taking their clothes off in front of gay men at a gay bar while gay men threw money at this child. What part of that do you not understand?

    Your problem is you do not read what I say about gay people and how I treat this incident differently from homosexuality in general. You keep wanting to lump it all together. Why is that?

    This lumping together of sexual exploitation of a child and homosexuality in general is exactly the argument the man boy love association does to make their argument. Why do you support that argument?

    The only smart move you made was not challenging what I actually said.
     
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    guavaball Well-Known Member

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    Since you once again offer zero studies or numbers to back yourself up your argument is meaningless until you can do so.

    And of course you never proved I changed the definition of per capita in any of my studies either. What a shocker.

    This is the only definition of per capita that matters. The dictionary.


    per capita
    [per kap-i-tuh]
    See more synonyms for per capita on Thesaurus.com
    adjective, adverb
    1. by or for each individual person:income per capita.
    2. Law . noting or pertaining to a method of dividing an estate by which all those equally related to thedecedent take equal shares individually without regard to the number of lines of descent. Compare per stirpes.


    Your pathetic attempt to redefine it and accusing me of changing it without evidence is why you keep losing.
     
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    And no studies or evidence once again backing anything you claim up.

    Thanks for staying predictable and doing exactly what I said you would do once again. All insults not facts.
     
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    Colombine Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    People have offered you numerous studies by accredited, peer reviewed, social scientists but you just ignore them. Why waste my breath.

    No, but you used an unrelated number, the 4 to 5% who self-report an adult LGBT attraction; a number which you describe to be "at best", to establish the size of the capita in the first place.

    If it's reported that 100 ice creams are consumed annually it makes a huge difference to the ice cream consumption "per capita" if the population is 100 people or 600 people.

    You really don't understand this? That's how "per capita" ratios are formulated.

    To establish a "per capita" ratio you initially need to establish the exact size of the capita. You claim a finite number and then say "oh no, you have to include all these other people as well" but without allowing for an increase in the finite percentage of the sub-set "capita" you stated in the first place.

    There's something pathetic going on here but I don't think it's coming from me?

    I'm not losing, you are. You claim homosexual pedophiles should be included in the integer of the 4 to 5% of adults who self-report an adult LGBT orientation but they aren't because they don't. If you include them the number skews far higher and the ratio changes. Simple math.
     
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    It's not my point... it's YOUR point. Hence the burden of prove lies with you.
    And I'm not interested in researching if your conspiracy theories are true or not.
     
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    I understand you linking homosexuals with pedophilia. A disgusting thing that was considered normal during the Jim Crow era where you could legally discriminate black people for being black.

    Them "good ol days" are gone. Get with the program.
     
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    So once again you are asked for evidence and unlike myself that can quote and point to the posts, you can't once again. This is my shocked face.

    So you need a further education on basic math as well as the population of homosexuals in the US that I use for my premise pretending you have a percentage of homosexuals within the population that would invalidate my numbers and per captia while of course you provide none of your own as usual.

    I am happy to further educate you on this as well.

    May 25th, 2018

    A record 4.5 percent of American adults identify as lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender, according to a new Gallup estimate. The percentage, which works out to more than 11 million U.S. adults, is up from 4.1 percent in 2016 and 3.5 percent in 2012, the year Gallup first started tracking LGBT identification.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/record-4-5-percent-u-s-adults-identify-lgbt-gallup-n877486

    Those damn right wingers at nbc!

    How about another?

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/just-how-many-lgbt-americans-are-there

    Approximately one in 100 American women and two in 100 American men identify as homosexual, with another four percent of Americans identifying as bisexual. Homosexuality is still a controversial topic in the United States, but polls and surveys regarding its moral acceptability or the legalization of same-sex marriage show an obvious trend towards acceptance and tolerance of the LGBT community among the American population.

    Ewww. Not looking too good for your fantasy numbers huh.

    https://www.statista.com/topics/1249/homosexuality/


    Now what did I say the percentage was in the US of homosexuals within the population? Hmmmmm Was it between 4 and 5%? Survey says yes indeed. LOL So not only do you provide once again zero numbers for any of your arguments you pretend my estimate of homosexual population percentage was off when I can provide a multiple links even one poll from just a few months ago confirming once again I was right.

    Thanks for making it so easy to win once again. :)
     
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    Which is a fabrication you cannot possibly prove and of course do not.

    Learn the difference between homosexuals and homosexual pedophiles. Pretending they are the same is a hallmark of the man boy love association argument.
     
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    I haven't presented numbers that are any different. I have questioned that the number presented includes homosexual pedophiles because the number is derived from persons who have self-reported their adult sexual orientation in studies.

    I think you know this but like others before you you have to ignore it or your position dissolves.

    Most homosexual pedophiles don't self report their orientation in surveys related to sexual orientation. Most report or are assumed to have a heterosexual orientation. Many are married to persons of the opposite sex. Some have kids and some abuse those kids as well.

    Let me ask you, when you add all those persons who have homosexual sex with persons of the same sex, regardless of age, what do you think the actual percentage of homosexuals (by your definition) rises to?
     
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    I do believe I mocked you with a 1960's add. That's just the way you see gay people. Your pedophilia really is an insane accusation. The child protective services aint even considering that.
     
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    This is wrong wrong wrong. 11 yr old in a bar? Minors cant even sit in the bar at restaurants. Grown men throwing money. Hope none of them asked the child for a lap dance.
    Little girls pageants should fade away, but not comparable to this.
    ...unless its the scene from Bad Grandpa when his grandson dressed in drag and danced to Cherry Pie. :smoking:
     
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    YJCMTSU...

    The disconnect with basic logic is staggering.
     
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    Don't hold your breath...
     
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    Are you capable of explaining how?
     
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    I'm not making ANY point! To confirm, are you saying that he didn't have any internal suffering?

    What the hell? What conspiracy theory?
     
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    Yes.

    But the bottleneck is elsewhere...

    o_O
     
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    Case in point...
     
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    Why aren't his parents in the lockup?
     
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    How can anyone know if this kid had internal suffering or if he was having a blast, they cannot. It’s mere speculation and going just from outward expression he was having fun. Unless you have some relevant material that shows otherwise, which you don’t.

    The conspiracy theory is that this thread has anything to do with pedophilia, yet here we are on page 86 of pretty much nothing but discussion of child rape because... well, bigots are gonna bigot...

    The child shouldn’t have been in the bar but this doesn’t make anyone a pedophile anymore than watching a clip of Honey Boo Boo does.
     
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