7 October testimonies strike major blow to Israeli narrative

Knowing that the region outside Israel is cleansed of Jews, Christians, atheists, gay people, non-Muslims and those critical of religion/government, does not make one Islamophobic. The USA is not an Islamophobic government. We have a thriving Muslim population and I am proud to live in a country that protects an individuals right to freedom of religion. I strongly oppose government that considers criticism and apostacy a crime punishable by death. I feel bad for those subjugated by theocracies. Young Iranians risk their lives protesting their primitive, overreaching dictator. I support them.

 

Lol, the dictator that American and British actions caused to take power, because we backed the *******s that were fine with robbing Iran of its resources. That caused the people of Iran to back the Ayatollah to get rid of the western puppet that was robbing their country. Actions have consequences, a lesson we seem determined not to learn, as we are once again backing an immoral ******* in the middle east.

I love this country, and I am sick of our elites backing unAmerican *******s like Netanyahu in our name.

 

I see pro-Palestine demonstrations and there is no way to know of someone is boycotting Israeli products. They make good products. If I wanted to boycott products from the other side, what would I avoid?

 

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True. We screw things up around the world. Im not sure any country can criticize on morality, but by comparison, the USA and Israel are mother Theresa compared to the rest of the region that cleanses their land of Jews, Christians, atheists, gay people, non-Muslims, and those critical of religion/government.

(Note: Mother Theresa was an awful person and I only used her as an example because she is commonly recognized.)

 

We in the UK just passed a bill recently, forbidding the boycotting of Israeli goods. Look the the blue octopus has his tentacles working overtime

 

Is that why black Americans are disproportionately locked up and killed by the state? Is that why America enslaved black folk for 400 years? America is cleansing their country of black folks. Is that why the CIA flooded black community with crack cocaine?

America is 10 times worse than Nazi Germany.

 

We have a bad habit of getting those people put in power. We screw things up SO badly that common people are willing to back the psychos to get rid of us. That should tell you something about US foreign policy.
the Ayatollah, Taliban, Osama bin Laden, ISIS, the Arab Spring, etc etc... All a product of US meddling that brings the people you deplore into power.

 

You are far from correct. USA has a growing population of African Americans. (AKA Thriving, the opposite of cleansing)

You did find something we agree on. I strongly oppose our government incarcerating more of our population than any other. I support minimal government interference in our lives. The US certainly has an ugly past when it comes to slavery. I do enjoy discussions on history. May I assume you are aware of the history of slavery in the Muslim world? Did Arabs have black slaves?

 

You are wrong. Being locked up and killed by the state and being the poorest demographic does not equal thriving .

Smh

There was and still is a programme to ethnically cleanse America of black folk.

Yes I'm aware of the Arab slave trade. Just as bad as the white Jewish and European slave trade in America. Your Whataboutism does not negate my point about 400 years of slavery in the white man's world.

 

I already acknowledged your slavery example. You are the one directing the discussion away from the Israel/Arab conflict. I realize our justice system is a profit meatgrinder that consumes the poor. Thats why I oppose powerful government. Good thing I can criticize my government without fear if death. Those living under Muslim rule do not have that luxury. Do you know who is killing most of the black people in the US?

The Black population has grown by more than 10 million since 2000, when 36.2 million of the U.S. population identified as Black, marking a 32% increase over roughly two decades.Jan 18, 2024

https://www.pewresearch.org/social-...entified as,increase over roughly two decades.


It looks like every criticism you have for Israel is several times worse on the side, whos position you are debating. Cleansing, targeting civilians, oppression.

 

The criticism iHave for Israelis is justified. That is the topic and you haven't addressed not one of those criticisms. All you have is Whataboutisms, that's your MO, whataboutery/nu-hu

 

Im not saying it isn't; I am saying that the side you are debating on behalf of is far worse in all categories. Cleansing, targeting civilians, oppression, and of course, we can add criticism to the list. Pointing out hypocrisy is not whataboutery.

 

iAm defending a ppl being slaughtered as we speak. A 12 year old child playing, shot dead by an Israeli sniper, whom the security chief said should be given a medal. That's who I'm defending and all you have is nu-hus and Whataboutisms.

 

How can you say that when Israel has killed 20 times more civilians than Hamas? Yes, Hamas is terrible. No doubt. Netanyahu and friends are worse. Saying "it's ok that we butcher hundreds of civilians because we got one or two Hamas guys", while starving the rest to death, is far, far worse than what Hamas could EVER hope to accomplish. Neither Netanyahu or Hamas can be allowed to have power. Luckily, our politicians are FINALLY starting to figure it out. Even Schumer, who in the past has been such a massive supporter of Israel and Netanyahu, is saying Netanyahu needs to be removed, and recognizes that a two state solution is the only possible solution.

 

How Palestinian leadership starts a war by raping, mutilating, murder, and kidnapping, and then seeks to demonize Israel when they place children in harms way, is tragic.

 

Nu-hu is not a valid answer.

A 12 year old child playing, shot dead by an Israeli sniper, whom the security chief said should be given a medal. Never mind the 50000+ slaughtered as retribution. How can you honestly support that in good conscience?

 

Ppl regurgitate the mantra of their leaders. If biden and sunak and netandyahoo say it's ok then the bubble says it's ok. The naysayer is not allowed to step out of line. They generally get suicided if they do, such is freedom of speech in the west, or rather lack of it.

 

I already said I strongly oppose all the killing. Claiming that a child was targeted by a sniper and that this is encouraged by Israel is far from reasonable.

 

But the child was shot and killed and the sniper was praised. It's also not the first time. Not long ago another pre-teen was shot and killed for playing in the neutral zone next to the 30 foot border wall in The West Bank. That shooter was promoted to avoid an investigation

 

I will look at the link. It’s not that Israel is an angel. It’s the fact that the other side has an obvious goal, already accomplished in the rest of the region.

 

With only Hamas doing the reporting there. I have a hard time believing any stories. Show me prove instead of someone from Hamas saying it happened.

 

Beats hell out of me, but the point is that here in the Land Of The Free and Home of The Brave, depending upon the state you live in, we can boycott British products, divest from British companies, and any other country in the world, but we CANNOT do the same with Israel.

Does that tell you anything, or are your Eyes Wide Shut?

 

Israel is a "Mini-America" in the middle east, and yet people here seem to feel Israel should capitulate to Iran.
This is as if America would have surrendered to the British. There would have been no America, and no freedom of speech to yell "Death to Israel" on behalf of the murderous forces of the of Iran.
Maybe after the next war we will get neutered by the China, NorKo, Russia, and Iranian block and world's national order will go back to pre-American hegemony.
You may live to have wished you took the fight for freedom seriously.
BTW on boycotts. Just read the label and don't buy it.

 

Capitulate to Iran? Who said anything about that?

The Balfour arrangement in 1948 was a huge error, putting belligerent Zionists right in the middle of the land known as Palestine. Typical western arrogance.

How about simple peaceful coexistence with Iran? Are the Zionists capable of that?