A United Kingdom

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    Labour supporter?

    Labour are the worse, they put welfare before industries and control over regulation.
     
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    Labour don't want to regulate the industry, that want to make you, the people, control the industry.
     
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    And yet the Tories are and were the party of appeasement. Always ready to call for the help of the workers when their asses are on the line!
     
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    Unless you work in the payroll industry or the nuclear defence, then Labour want to scrap your industry and possibly have you sign on to Job Seekers Allowance instead.
     
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    With every word you show how you care nothing about the country, just your own ass now that it is in the fire!
     
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    Merkel weakened Europe. When we negotiated with them ahead of the referendum, she wouldn't compromise. So the EU lost one of it's key players. They are weakened by our loss. Not just egg on their faces. Prestige, money, security. Embassy's. Negotiating leverage. We were the EU's biggest market. The carrot for their trade deals. The stick for their enemies.
    The American ally they wanted to turn but have failed.

    Macron seems to be doing OK with it. Seems to have halted le Pens advance.

    Mrs Merkel? Not so much. She's buggered the EU with the Euro crisis and the refugee crisis and Brexit. She got Schengen halted!
    Germany's anti EU parties have made big advances under her chancellery. Become mainstream.

    Germans are well committed to the EU. I don't think any more so than they.
     
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    I bet Labour is the weakness in the UK that Merkel can smell?

    I bet it is.

    I think it's time to re-think Britain's associations with the Labour Party, don't you?

    Hell, I voted remain in London, but **** me right, Jeremy Corbyn almost lost the Labour leadership and camped out in Parliament Square. Like THAT was what was important, who ****ing ran Labour.
     
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    So you're saying I don't care because I work and get paid through a payroll agency but someone who hasn't had a job in 8 years is less greedy than me for taking taking taking and then trying to get Westminster to force it out of me through tax?
     
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    You are old enough to vote, I thought you were still in short trousers down fagging in the sixth form!
     
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    I used to get paid through a payroll agency. Read the small print is my advice. It turns out they have me paying employee's national insurance. Plus Employers national insurance. My tax and their tax both came out of my wages. Avoid.
     
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    I still eat, and I've had to do self employed with a UTR and, payroll companies offer opportunities to my agency to operate and get me more work than being a self employed contractor to a ratio of 99 to 1 out of 100.
    All these people in these payroll companies who work in the offices and attend the phones... Don't they need to work too?
    According to the Labour Manifesto, this would be banned and I'd have to be self employed and contracted in and paid once a month (instead of every week) and register for my own tax.
     
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    If you earn more that £80,000 then like me you should be happy to contribute a bit more to society. It won't kill you and who knows you might get help when you beg for it next time!
     
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    I'm not interested in a payroll company that charges me a days pay a week to process a single payment. They can be on dole.
    I like my agent. She's sexy. But I'm not allowed to be self unemployed any more. My sister is an accountant if I even needed one I have a free one in house. Anyway resigned from that one. If you cheat me, you lose me.

    It was state sector work anyway. I'm too honest for it. I felt ashamed of myself.
     
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    If you're like me but want to aspire too and just spent a week Labouring in the offices of a French Finance Firm in The City of London in Exchange House (next door to the Stock Market) and saw the whole culture of charity and philanthropy these people surround themselves in, you'd ignore lies telling you how 'Greedy' these people are and see the truth that 'Those who earn more probably are giving back out of the goodness of their hearts' and all Labour want to do is tax it, like dipping their paws in these people's pockets to pay for a poor standard rolled out across the country for all, rich or poor; Like Labour covet this money and feels to help itself.
    Tell me, who's more greedy? Those high earners I saw and all their different community projects to give back? Or Labour, who covet and want to help themselves?
     
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    I think I pay £22.00 to them and earn, in a good week about £350 - £500. (I also believe when I'm on £11.00 per hour, I earn that before my first tea break).
    I also work in construction and thanks to my agency in London, I have full bragging rights on some landmarks including;
    • The Shard
    • The Gherkin
    • British Science Museum
    • Sky Sports News
    • Abbey Road Studios
    as 'places I've worked on'. so, it has it perks.
     
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    You poor deluded sucker, I have spent most of my adult life around the leaches, i have even trained a few, they would **** on their own grandmother.
     
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    The Tory guy. The rich one who bank roils them. Lord Ashcroft.
    My god that man gives some away money to good causes. (and bad ones Tory's!).
    Hell of a philanthropist. Much respect for that man. Unlikely as it may sound, much respect indeed.
     
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    I was getting £80 out of £280 docked.
    45 in charges, 40 in tax I wasn't due to pay.

    So that was that really, as soon as I clocked it, instant resignation.

    What is a CSCS please. All the labouring positions offered online ask for one, how do I get it and is it cheap?
    Londons a 3 hour drive each way for me. I did some Labouring in Croydon last summer, but it's a long way to go for minimum wage. Very easy indeed to make no money at all after a long week.
     
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    I was raised by leeches in a leech stronghold called Croydon North.
    Don't kid yourself.
    Those who believe the rich are greedy aren't nice people when they want to tax the rich and stay at home and watch TV all day.
    My grandmother worked all her life and enjoys her teaching pension and her OAP one that her daughter/my mother was too quick to leech off of instead of getting a job when it came down to raising us kids, all 5 of us from her 2nd marriage/2nd family.
     
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    A tax exile, with dual nationality. Work out what % of his income he would have to give away to be equivalent to your average joe giving a tenner.
     
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    I don't earn enough to pay tax.
    Since I'm only on what, 14k a year in a great year that I work every week in (which hasn't happened yet in my years doing this). So I haven't actually earned enough in a year to pay tax, yet, considering there are times in the year I'm not working if there's no work or I'm studying <- Full time student me.
     
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    Just because you have mother issues do not assume everyone has!
     
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    Same same. I don't usually break the NI cap of £8K.
    No income taxes due. That's not to say they don't still take them from time to time, but there is no need for them too. I'm not due it.
     
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    I know my neighbourhood is much worse.
    Out there are horror stories of child abuse and spending benefits on drugs and forcing children to sell DVDs when they're 16 to pay for their step dad and mother's weed habit when he's wanting his cocaine seeing faces again beating up on his girlfriend.
    Seen it, know it, thankfully it's resolved, but there are so many dope pushers (like coke and weed) and this whole claiming money and going to pawnshops and caring about Sony PlayStations is Britain you want to gloss over when you call bankers greedy, bankers who do works of charity.
     
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    If they take and you don't meet that cap, you get a tax refund.
     

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