ADHD? Real or bogus?

psych diagnoses for everyone.
THis week's special, buy two get one free.

 

Nothing, absolutely nothing.....for now. See in America we have something called doctor-patient confidentiality. I read something saying in Obamacare that is essentially finished and the federal government can have access to all of our health records. I could easily see it progressing to the point where people with certain diagnoses can't purchase firearms. Then of course they'll just turn to the black market and they'll be even less accounted for.

 

thank you for connecting the dots.

 

Does not begrudging something justify the use of aggression to get loot from strangers so that our friends can be taken care of to the level that we believe they should be?

Don't drag me into your argument supporting the state.

 

Pretty much anyone who sees a psychiatrist for anything is violating federal regulations if they possess a firearm.

 

Have you taken the time to see how accurate and valid this is?

Here we have the Data Protection Act, and it would not permit what you are suggesting.

That said, and I don't please really want to get stuck on guns here, but there is something to be said for only those of sound mind being permitted to buy something that is designed to kill.

Sort of makes sense to me.

Sure, I guess they could go to the bother of buying on the black market.

But then they would be commiting an offence in doing so, and could lose their liberty, so are less inclined to.

 

What are you banging on about?

I asked a simple question, using your friend as an example, since you chose to mention her.

 

It was an accurate source.

 

What source?

And declaring precisely what?

 

The source is the health care law........

It declares that when it goes into effect our records will be open to the federal government at their will.

 

I'm not going to get on your bandwagon calling for more government support for the mentally ill. The system is messy enough as it is, and the government part of it is driven by corporations and pharmaceutical companies who see huge profits in a captive market.

 

how will we cry that the free market is gouging us, if we don't form a government created captive market first ?

 

A 'bandwagon'.

So, what, should they just be left to die then, right?

 

OK, I'll bite................yes.

 

And you mean this, do you?

 

You mean, like what use to be the case in the US? Oh wait, that's never happened, except in government institutions where they are treated with all sorts of experimental drugs and, at one type, frontal lobotomies and electroshock.

Your unfounded fears feed right into the hands of your masters.

 

Bandwagons.

Fears.

Masters.

Ken, quite simply, and I am going to blame myself here, I have no idea what you are on, and do not know what you are even talking about.

This was a thread about ADHD.

I happened to ask if anyone knew another who had either Borderline Personality Disorder, or was Bi Polar.

It was you who told me, I am sure, about a female friend of yours who cannot leave the house, for months at a time, due to her condition, for which she has my every empathy, and anyone like that.

I am not from the US, and merely asked what the welfare or social arrangments and support systems, for someone like that are in the US, so that I could compare them to those here, in my own country.

Nothing to do with electroshocks and lobotomies.

Okay?

 

Hence the hyperbole, "left to die in the streets" ?

 

I wasn't asking you though, you see.

 

My older son (he's 27 now) was tested....and they didn't think he had adhd but suggested Ritlin anyway. He went from an F student to an A student and was on the honor roll for two years. My son was never overtly disrespectful or angry--he got distracted easily and couldn't concentrate. He'd either forget to take home his homework...or do it and forget to take it back to school. Very forgetful.

My stepson was affirmatively diagnosed with it--took Ritlin and it did nothing. I never thought he had it. He was fine at our house and out of control at his Mom's. So unless the disorder occurs only in certain environments.......

Its a very intangible thing.

 

Much of the time, if a given med works, the doctors cannot fully explain how.

Some drugs meant for epilepsy are used on people with, for exampe, bi polar.

For many it does help, but they are not sure precisely how it works.

 

well good grief, you could say that about everything and then there would be no debating at all. "I am not a scientist so I can't debate anything scientific, I am not a politician so I can't give an opinion on politics, I am not a statistian so I can't give an opinion on statistics...etc"

 

That is correct. I was told that they would prescribe the medicine and we would see the outcome. The teachers and my son were excited when it helped dramatically.

We jokingly called it....the "A" Medicine. I will say...straight F's and hopelessness to Honor roll was quite an experience.

Regardless---he does struggle in his adult life. He won't take the medicine or even consider it.

 

It may just be me, but I am of the view that before prescribing anything to anyone, esp for a condition involving a mental state, that doctors should really be able to explain HOW said med works, in a given patient.

There are several reasons why I beleive this.

1) If they admit to not knowing precisely how it works, then be definition, they cannot surely know unknown damage? Perhaps the long term damage will be much worse than the original condition?

2) By determining HOW it works, they can determine why it does NOT work on others. This is key, since quite often the meds only have about a 40% success rate, at best.

3) Ethics. If you are responsibly placing something inside someone's body, as a doctor, surely it is ethical to know not just what it is, but how it works on the brain?

Otherwise, you may as well go to a site like this, spend a few hundred, and experiment with each one on the site.

http://www.purechemicals.net/buy-mdai-sparkle-15-c.asp

 

I'm not in disagreement. But frankly...I was pretty desperate. I wonder if that is an influencer in these types of things.