ADHD? Real or bogus?

Of course it is, and I get that.

If one feels bad/desperate, and thinks a given substance may make them feel better, and nothing else has worked...can I begrudge them trying something else? No.

Incidentally, I thought this item may interest you, in this case it was Parkinson's, however, I did wonder to the effects of someone with ADHD ingesting the same, to see what the results would be..

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/1169980.stm

 

Granny says, "Dat's right - give dem lil' criminals a Be Good pill...

ADHD treatment 'may reduce risk of criminal behaviour'
21 November 2012 - Giving medication to people with ADHD in the criminal justice system may reduce crime

 

I think it's a real condition but not one that we need to medicate children for. Basically, we medicate them just so we can plug them into a cookie cutter educational system. A better thing to do would be to tailor the child's educational structure so that it would work better for them. For example, don't just try to chain some hyper active kid to a desk before you've burned off their energy. Why teach them in the daytime when they're probably over stimulated. Wait until the evening after they've been playing all day.

It's just silly to drug a kid because you can't figure out a better way to deal with them. The drug isn't to improve a kid's life, it's to make parents and teacher's lives easier. Then the kid grows up to think there's something wrong with themselves, like they're not normal. That's just crazy. Adults just need to work harder at making the child the priority and not themselves.

 

Having really considered conditions, such as autism and ADHD, I have come to the conclusion that the scale of it may be down to what we eat, what we drink.

I don't mean you eat something then get it, I mean, if over time, there are literally so many toxins in our food, and in drinks, enters the genetic system, then I cannot imagine such toxins act as super vitamins ,do they?

We know and accept that a mother drinking while pregnant, can cause damage to the feutus, so that the child's IQ is damaged.

Or that if she takes drugs while pregnant, it can do irreversible damage to the child.

Thus, if you gradually drip, even in tiny amounts but often, toxins into your food supply, or water supply, are you really then saying that what applied above, no longer does..?

 

I have it. It's real, for sure. It's very hard to pay attention for more than a short time unless I'm really, really interested in the subject at hand, I get randomly hyper for no reason, my short term memory can be shaky at times, it's hard for me to stay in once place, I always daydream, among other things.

It's a pain in the ass.

 

It's an excuse for Ritalin prescriptions, today most young people use it to keep up with demands for college and work, to have that 'edge' so to say.

very few people, if diagnosed properly have a genetic defect requiring ritalin drugs. that is why it is a controlled substance.

 

Vaccines? Are you sure you really trust everyone behind them? Have they never made error before, and would they fully disclose it, even if they had?

[video=youtube;Dh-nkD5LSIg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dh-nkD5LSIg[/video]

Julie Gerberding, the head of the CDC, went on CNN's House Call with Dr. Sanjay Gupta to discuss the Hannah Poling case and admitted that vaccines trigger autism in a subset of the population with mitochondrial disorders.

It is time for Dr. Gerberding to answer some hard questions before congress.

 

A study published last month in the British medical journal The Lancet indicated that in at least 2/3 of all ADHD cases, food sensitivities were the cause.

Pause for a moment and think of what this means. 64% of the kids out there being dosed with toxic pharmaceutical drugs to treat ADHD simply don’t need them! This number is monumental. In the U.S. alone, that represents an estimated 5 million children.


http://www.foodrenegade.com/new-research-confirms-adhd-caused-by-food/

 

So might a lobotomy.

 

The study team did whole-genome analyses of 1,000 children with ADHD recruited at The Children's Hospital of Philadelphia, compared to 4,100 children without ADHD. The researchers searched for copy number variations (CNVs), which are deletions or duplications of DNA sequences. They then evaluated these initial findings in multiple independent cohorts that included nearly 2,500 cases with ADHD and 9,200 control subjects. All the study subjects were children of European ancestry. Among those cohorts, the research team identified four genes with a significantly higher number of CNVs in children with ADHD. All the genes were members of the glutamate receptor gene family, with the strongest result in the gene GMR5. Glutamate is a neurotransmitter, a protein that transmits signals between neurons in the brain. "Members of the GMR gene family, along with genes they interact with, affect nerve transmission, the formation of neurons, and interconnections in the brain, so the fact that children with ADHD are more likely to have alterations in these genes reinforces previous evidence that the GRM pathway is important in ADHD," said Hakonarson. "Our findings get to the cause of the ADHD symptoms in a subset of children with the disease."

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/12/111204144650.htm

 

""ADHD is a highly heterogeneous disorder, and separating out the different subgroups of genetic mutations that these children have is very important," said co-first author Josephine Elia, M.D., a child psychiatrist at Children's Hospital and an ADHD expert. She added that thousands of genes may contribute to the risk of ADHD, but that identifying a gene family responsible for 10 percent of cases is a robust finding in a common neuropsychiatric disorder such as ADHD. Overall, according to the CDC, 5.2 million U.S. children aged 3 to 17 have been diagnosed with ADHD."

Its long been known that real attention deficit is the result of the brains neurotransmitters firing too fast and too often. If a kid can sit still through a TV show like Dora then they dont have AD. That is why the included the catch all of hyperactivity. Its ambiguous and can be diagnosed with no scientific backing. If this study proves anything IMHO its that most diagnosed ADHD is normal kids who are drugged by their parents and doctors. In only 10% of the cases were the researchers able to find a real physical cause.

 

ADHD is just a bogus psychological construct with arbitrary parameters; it is not a real "disorder", it is just an idea in some psychologist's head and an excuse for authority figures to lobotomize non-conformist children with prescription drugs.

 

Attention deficit is a real disorder. Look at the study that was posted. In 10% of the case they found a real problem with the neurotransmitters in kids diagnosed with ADHD. The problem is that they jump around thinking that they have found 1 cause. But the other way of looking at is that it is the only cause and the other 90% are just like the control ground and have nothing wrong with them. They could only find 1 genetic trait in 10% of the diagnosed cases. I concluded that the study shows that 90% of ADHD diagnoses are bull(*)(*)(*)(*)!

Personally I think that we have just replaced the belt with drugs.

 

It may be 'real'.

But I think it is far more pervasive now, and not merely due to more 'awareness'.

But because it IS.

Why?

Why has it become so?

Again, I believe the truth may lie in diet, and gods knows what gets pumped into food.

 

If the child meets the diagnostic criteria for "ADHD", then they have ADHD; the fact that ninety percent of them had nothing physiologically wrong with them despite such a diagnosis only strengthens my claim that "ADHD" is a bogus psychological construct; the ten percent of children who had a problem with their neurotransmitters are suffering from a real disorder of the brain, but that does not lend any credibility to the diagnostic parameters of "ADHD".

Basically.

 

The only problem the other 90% has is poor parenting.

 

Yes, the only problem the other 90% has is poor parenting.

 

To some extent, I agree, though I think the biggest problem is the nebulous nature of "ADHD" itself. It is just a vague catch-all construct with arbitrary (and mostly biologically meaningless) diagnostic criteria that has no consistently observable physiologic manifestations. Essentially, it is the pathologizing of non-conformist, but otherwise perfectly healthy, behavior by authority figures, mostly public officials. Such "maladaptive" behavior, when viewed in an evolutionary context, is actually perfectly "normal", in my opinion. But I do agree that parenting plays an important role. Without structure and discipline, children can become erratic and insecure.

 

That's not true, I fit a lot of the symptoms. If it's not that, I don't know what the hell it is. I don't take any medication for it. I don't use it as an excuse in my daily life either. But I do have it, it's real.

I do agree that a lot of cases are fabricated to put kids on drugs, though.

 

Diet may play a part. I have a really clean diet though. Perhaps what I ate as a child and teenager had some effect?

 

I have ADHD and yes it's very much real.

You learn to cope with it as you get older though, but it does hinder your ability to learn in grade school some more-so than others. It had a pretty bad effect on me in school but I graduated from high school. My cousin was the same way. She has ADHD too and struggled in school but still managed to graduate.

It's hard to listen, even now. But as I said you learn to cope with it as you get older and find ways on your own to focus and pay attention. I tend to look at my hands and play with my fingers because it keeps my mind distracted and able to listen to whom ever is talking. Sometimes you go into a focused state and it doesn't affect you any. Especially when watching television where tense moments occur.

Having ADHD doesn't make me a less intelligent person. Just I have a harder time listening than someone who doesn't have it and have learned to cope with it on my own.

 

The symptoms are meaningless and not indicative of an underlying pathology or "disorder". I was diagnosed with "ADHD" as well.

 

Just because you had difficulty focusing in school does not mean you have a "disorder".

 

Who cares about silly names? Call it what you will, but I have the symptoms, and have had so my entire life. If it isn't indicative of a disorder, then what is it?

 

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