Where am I saying that I was not born in the US? What are you talking about "the reality of national borders?" Nations have borders because people are divided in their naming of nations and use of language(s) and customs. What does that have to do with this? I couldn't care less if you want to talk about that, but I keep re-itterating that I just want these papers to stop associating me to foreign stuff and if anybody has any ideas, then that'd be great! 'Cause then I can get back to work and leave everybody the f' alone. Right now, I'm (*)(*)(*)(*)-blocked by some dickwads that don't give a damn about us. I've said over and over that I don't have a birth certificate, nor do I want one, and I don't have parental ties, again, nor do I want them. I did go to a public school with records, etc., but I don't want them for anything. I am trying to do my own job, my own work, which I was trying to accomplish by first serving the military and then developing my own company. The military's what bit me in the ass and now I'm having a hard time running my company because if I put anything out, these alien associations start popping up and causing problems for my family and myself. That's why I'm trying to get them to stop putting out the fake news and why I'm explaining my situation, because I can't for the life of me figure out why the hell multi-million dollar businesses and a federal administration are working so hard to alienate me or make into some foreign star when I'm a nobody-class citizen that seriously... seriously... wants to be left the hell alone so that I can do my job. I don't have any political objective other than having a few people in these privileged positions stop making my life a hell through their publications and I'm not sure how to get through to them or to be their friends so that they can stop it. Take from that whatever you want, but please help me to figure out how to get through to the right people in these organizations, so that I can stop this mess; if you can.
Perhaps if you would give us a link to one of the stories in these papers we could explore details to assist you.
If you were born in the United States you have a certificate of live birth. Everyone does barring circumstances you have not defined....this is why you are trolling. Either explain yourself of a troll you are.
Uh huh... So, how do you know you were born in the US? My earliest verifiable memory goes back to 2 years old. I don't actually remember where or when I was born. I depend on my BC for that and the BC I got from my parents. It seems whatever problem you claim to be having is easily resolvable but you seem to have no intention of actually resolving it. Want to join the US military? I guarantee you don't get in till they get a BC or green card. Don't want to get your BC? Fine you don't get in. It really is just that simple.
Show them your birth certificate. People kept trying to convince me that I needed to serve a foreign country and to immigrate. I finally was able to brush them off. If you were born in the US, you are a citizen. Just show them your birth certificate. - - - Updated - - - If you were born in a hospital, you have a birth certificate. If you were born in an alley and dropped off somewhere shortly after, they will have a record of your birth. Of course you are trolling. There is a record of your birth unless you were born on some separatist compound and raised there off the grid for 20 years.
You keep ignoring my question. How could you not know where a citizen comes from? Are you so convinced that a record that is created by somebody about their birth controls their loyalty? If I create one for you, as a doctor, with a national label of my choosing, are you now ours to mastermind and manipulate? Forgive me, because I naturally had no idea that our allegiance was not ours to choose. Wow! You knew what The United States was at just 2 years old? That's amazing. I'm much slower than you. I had to learn well into school about nationalism and what a country was before I was able to understand those kinds of things. Tell me: at which point did you decide to that the BC would determine your support of The United States, rather than your parents or community? Also, did you parents print the BC for you? I am glad that they printed the right one. I would hate to see you supporting some country that you know very little about. Everybody should be born in the US, IMO. It's a good thing that a person's loyalty is determined FOR them at birth. Can we get back to the newspaper question? I'm interested in becoming friends with these papers that are putting out fake news, but I'm not really into politics. At least I don't like to be. Does anybody have some contacts at any of them that I could talk to? I've spoken to a few, but they've told me that they aren't interested in factual events or respect for the individual, as the are views; and I don't want to give them views because it causes more of this kind of harmful bashing. How can I have them stop nicely, so that I can resume my work? Does anybody know somebody there?
"We fight against discrimination." And who is that we? "Aliens?" This is just a bizarro topic of game-playing messages or some weirdo fantasy reality, writing about how major media publications are posting fake news and lawyers tell you to go to another county - which sounds like their deciding you're just nuts and that want you to get away from them as far as possible - and how you were forced into the Marines who turned you into an alien. I suppose an "alien" born in the USA with parents and no birth records would have problems. There aren't any laws or guidelines of how to deal with "aliens," even if born in the USA. I would think an alien would have a difficult time meeting the physical standards of the Marines physically.
I'm talkin' the USA when I say "we" and we are not alien. What do you mean by game-playing messages? I'm asking for something very specific here: which is figuring out the deal with USA Today in a way that doesn't involve a media engagement or intellectual conflict. I never said that I was forced into the Marines or that they turned me into an alien. I went with them voluntarily from school to enlist after my graduation. I already said that the ACLU wants big cases and I told them I don't want this to be a case period. I'm not interested in a birth certificate, benefits, or recuperation; and I don't want to hurt my family in a media war. I just want to learn how to deal with USA Today in a way that doesn't involve a media engagement or intellectual conflict. USA Today is supposed to be one of our papers, but it's one of the only ones that I haven't been able to get through to that continues to publish fake stuff against us. Their reporter that I spoke to says they don't have control over their own article and the higher ups that I spoke to say they have no interest in removing the fake story. I'm not sure how to appeal to them without a conflict, so I'm looking for ideas that don't involve an engagement or conflict. edit: If you think that they have some political objective, then can you explain? I gave you my situational because I assume the reason they're being so "inhuman" or "alien" in their aggressive publication of a false story, is because of some (*)(*)(*)(*) going on in politics that I seriously want no part in; and I'm not sure why they're targeting me. I don't know these people.
I again ask you to do a very simple two minute action to help us with your request for assistance. Post a link that allows us to review one of these stories you complain of from USA Today as my search has come up empty. In this way you can eliminate the questions concerning your honesty and provide data that might help your situation. If you do not do so I must assume you are nothing but a dishonest troll.
Why do you keep ignoring me when I say that I don't want a media conflict or public engagement? How is that dishonest and why is your poster guilty of lying and deceit until proven innocent? Also, why do you want me to lie to you by ignoring my concerns and engaging you in the articles? If you're seeking public attention and fame, then I'm not interested. I already explained that. Lastly, why do you call coming to a political forum and asking politicians for some guidance on politically befriending an organization in my situation trolling? I've already asking for them to stop due to the concern of truth and accuracy or for humanitarian reasons: such as the endangerment to my family. Those things don't interest them, so I'm seeking a way that does without directly exposing them, or us, to people or a public that works to encourage conflict or a winner/loser scenario of right & wrong. People on this forum are supposed to be politicians, so wouldn't it be possible for this public to work from a theoretical if they don't believe my actual by default? edit: I mean the people that I've reached (like the reporter and the upper staff through a secretary etc.) aren't interested in those things. If I can reach a person in that organization that does value those things and wants to work mutually, then that's what I'd like. However, they're very difficult for me to get a hold of <_< or to get through to.
Okay then....you are a lying troll who lacks the intellect to even understand that posting a link on an internet forum is NOT garnering media attention and a political forum does not contain politicians. On top of that would be your avoidance of doing as requested to give the assistance you claim to need. This is a PUBLIC forum in which you are engaging moron and obviously I am not ignoring you.....but, as requested I will begin doing so right now.
When you post on a public forum and link to public articles, while generating interest, you are garnering media attention. A political forum contains politicians. Politicians are members of the public with a political interest. I am not here to have a discussion about your troll. Personal information, such as a link with personal names and misinformation, should not be demanded in a political discussion. I am seeking a way to communicate with an organization of people that are posting misleading or harmful information. If this much hatred is directed towards me in a control group, then I do not want to redirect that towards a respected organization. How would anybody recommend establishing friendly relations with a powerful organization who's reporter is publishing without sources for their claims when that organization's truth and accuracy department's stance is along the lines of: "The reporter has the final decision in your identity and your voice will not be taken into account or considered when speaking of you in the article." I've tried speaking to the reporter several times, but they keep telling me that they don't have control over the article. What am I supposed to do in that situation? I don't know how these companies are structured or who I'm supposed to talk to if they're not even interested in the source they're writing about and their truth and accuracy department doesn't check those kinds of things beyond asking the reporter if they're true. The editor person that I DID manage to speak to retired shortly after I spoke with them, so I am at a loss. Does anybody have any (theoretical or actual) ideas?
Your story is incredible. Instead of attempting to join the military you should apply for a job at the State Department or the CIA where citizenship or even affinity for the US are viewed as job handicaps. Foreign language skills might help. Brush up on your Farsi or Arabic - a heavy accent would help a lot. Good luck.
OK, a few things straight. You were neither born nor raised in the US. Whatever your claim your use of the language, syntax and speech patterns clearly indicate American English is not your native language. Just guessing, perhaps Korean or SE Asia. I never said I remembered anything about the US at two, just that my earliest memories are at that age. Your failure to recognize this delta further highlights the fact that you are not a US native nor speak American English as your native language. You may be "loyal" to any country you like. To any person you like. To anything you like. "Loyalty" does not confer citizenship. In the US birth confers citizenship or Naturalization confers citizenship. By the same token, "citizenship" does not imply loyalty. You have not been honest or forthcoming about whatever facts you claim are surrounding whatever you claim to be your situation. So, go away.
You can still serve in the Army even if you're not a US citizen. You'll gain citizenship after Basic Training. Just MOS-specific
Of course you don't remember nationality at 2. I was pointing out that you LEARN citizenship and I asked you, after you learned what citizenship was, when you you decided that citizenship had nothing to do with a person's natural allegiance to a country and everything to do with artificial documentation and paperwork. If you are not from the US, or Asia or something, then don't project that on me. The only language that I speak is English. Citizenship implies loyalty and allegiance. If a "citizen" has no allegiance or loyalty to the country, then they are "alien" and not a "citizen." In the US, citizenship is born naturally. It is not conferred or controlled. I had no problems recognizing your "delta," because I was giving you my "alpha" and had already identified the foreign policy. I'm not going to say where you were physically born because that would be wrong. As far as I know, you are from the US. I didn't come here to talk about your citizenship.
I don't need a job or any benefits and I definitely don't want to learn a foreign language. If the State Department or CIA view an affinity for the US as a handicap, then I'd like to stay away from them if possible.
The only reason I'd join now is to die where somebody else might have died. I already am a citizen and I would only approve the US being spat on if I were beneath the dirt. That way; the grass should be greener and somebody on the other side would be alive.
Just go with your recruiter to MEPS and have the commander there deal with it. You don't need to get caught up in the immigration or politics of immigration if you're being recruited. There are many ways around it.
US. Residency? Who the f' cares about THAT status? Online! Also, I'M BETTER THAN YOU AND YOU DON'T KNOW IT.
