Am I a 'Racist' or a 'Realist'?

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  1. DarkSkies

    DarkSkies Well-Known Member

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    ^^This goes for the rhesus monkey though. The link I shared was findings on human subjects.
     
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    Middle Easterners, etc., aren't generally seen as 'white' beyond government forms.

    What's your point?
     
  3. DarkSkies

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    I went through this article and I did not come across anything discussing Hispanic/Native American ADHD levels though.

    And so, because I couldn't find anything, I decided to look around and guess what I found?

    "Epidemiologic data on the prevalence of ADHD in the Hispanic population are lacking because few population-based studies have been performed. One estimate by the National Center for Health Statistics reported that the prevalence of ADHD is 3.3% in Hispanics and 6.5% in whites."
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2640625/pdf/jnma00867-0017.pdf

    and

    "Attention-deficit/hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) is a behavioral disorder that affects up to 1 in 20 children in the USA. The predominance of American research into this disorder over the past 40 years has led to the impression that ADHD is largely an American disorder and is much less prevalent elsewhere."
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1525089/

    So the claim about Hispanics having high levels of ADHD is debunked I think.
     
  4. DarkSkies

    DarkSkies Well-Known Member

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    Not always true. Many ethnic people pass for white.

    Anyway, the point was it doesn't matter if Hispanics and Whites are merged in crime rates. Apparently, they are to be absorbed under the "white" label like many ethnic groups have been so................
     
  5. Maccabee

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    Got us free didnt it?

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    What white supremacism other than the KKK?
     
  6. Egalitarianjay02

    Egalitarianjay02 Banned

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    Most White people are not racist today but some of them still are. I have dealt with White Supremacists in the real world mostly in grade school where I got in to very violent fights with racist White boys two of which I nearly killed all because they were being racist. You see racism all over the internet including on this message board. Racism has been defeated on a political front but there are still racists at every level of society. It is not limited to racist hate groups like the KKK there are racists everywhere in the schools, the workforce, the police force, the court room and even racist politicians. Again most White people are not racist any more but enough are for it to still be a problem. Also there are racist Blacks and racists of other ethnic groups but racism is ingrained in Western culture because of its racist past.
     
  7. Libhater

    Libhater Well-Known Member

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    Oh Pleaseeeeeeeeeeeee.............The only signs of racism here in America come from the Left and from blacks where race baiting by our potus and folks like al sharpless have become a part of their political platform. Tell us of how race relations have smoothed out over these past 7 1/2 years starting with obama's beer summit with that white cop from Boston and then continuing with Ferguson and Baltimore. Open your eyes. Even the KKK have gone underground for all intents and purposes. Geez, get a clue!
     
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    Free from slavery, yes.

    Free from the KKK, Jim Crow and a bunch of stuff during Reconstruction? Nah.
     
  9. PolakPotrafi

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    Hispanics seem to be less likely to be diagnosed for ADHD, not because they have less of it, but because as a culture they are less aware of it.

    But, it's true that Native Americans have much higher genes for ADHD than other populations, and since most Hispanics are part Native American, you know where that goes,.
     
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    Nearly killed them, huh?

    Glad to see you're not "violent"
     
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    PolakPotrafi Banned

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    This link you provided does suggest that high testosterone likely lowers MAO levels.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2665792/

    A particular reason to explore MAOA/testosterone interaction is the possibility of direct action of testosterone on the MAOA promoter. The MAOA promoter contains three glucocorticoid/androgen response elements (GRE/ARE) and four binding sites for the Sp1 and R1 transcription factors. Androgens have recently been shown to interact directly with the third GRE/ARE and it also appears to act indirectly with Sp1 (Ou et al, 2006). Although androgens activated MAOA transcription this effect was not as strong as that of glucocorticoids. Since glucocorticoids and testosterone compete for the same sites this may actually mean that high testosterone levels may lead to lower transcription of MAOA and lower MAOA levels. Such an interaction could augment differences between MAOA-VNTR alleles.
     
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    Did it ever strike you that many colonial powers who abused Blacks, and Natives, were more like Africans?

    Might I point out that Western Europeans tend to have many traits intermediate between Eastern Europeans, and Africans, including more dolichocephalic skulls, thicker skulls, curlier hair, bigger teeth, wider noses, more O blood type, less sexual dimorphism.etc.

    Some of those proven, and others obvious from sight.

    Indeed Western Europeans are closer to Africans.

    This article proves it.

    http://eurogenes.blogspot.com/2014/04/low-genomic-diversity-among-ancient.html

    This article proves that Neolithic farmers like Gokhem, and Iceman were basically Quadroons between Yoruba, and indigenous Europeans like La Brana.

    With North - East Europeans, and Scandinavians being the furthest genetically from these Neolithic farmers like Gokhem, and Iceman,.
     
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    You are so dishonest when it comes to racism in America that it's actually funny to read your posts. Racism has become resurgent since Obama got elected President because many on the far-right can't stand to have a Black President. Blacks speaking out against injustice is not racism. You are out of touch with reality.

    Oh I'm very violent when I am provoked which is what happened in that case. The racists have only themselves to blame. You can read the full story here:

    The Phora.net: My Battle With the Klansmen

    Don't you ever get tired of peddling pseudoscience?
     
  14. DarkSkies

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    Your claims are not supported...at all:

    ADHD in the US population

    Prevalence by Race:
     All - 9.4%
     White - 9.6%
     Black - 10.5%
     American Indian/Alaska Native - 6.4%
     Asian - 1.4%
     Multiple race - 11.6%​

    Prevalence by Ethnicity:
     Hispanic - 4.9%
     Non-Hispanic - 10.6%
     Non-Hispanic White - 11.2%
     Non-Hispanic Black - 10.8%​

    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...9P5r_Ox2yvxGW9KyQ&sig2=rjUpZXsv_xjOD6ooBf26Lg

    [HR][/HR]

    I believe it is safe to say that to keep arguing debunked race-based talking points and not conceding when faced with facts makes one less of a 'realist' and actually more so the other one, yes?
     
  15. DarkSkies

    DarkSkies Well-Known Member

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    PolakPotrafi,

    This^^ was the hypothesis. It was stated in the introduction as a starting point for exploring testosterone and MAO interaction. What I shared regarding Testosterone and MAO levels was the actual findings.

    Basically, they had a hypothesis, employed a methodology to test it out, and came to some conclusions including the ones I shared already:

    "[H]igher levels of testosterone were associated with increased Brown–Goodwin [Aggression] scores among individuals with the low activity MAOA genotype but not among individuals with the genotype conferring higher levels of MAOA transcription...[H]igher levels of testosterone were associated with decreased CSF MHPG among individuals with the reduction-of-function MAOA genotype but not among individuals with the genotype conferring higher levels of MAOA transcription."​
     
  16. Libhater

    Libhater Well-Known Member

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    Its only in your warped mind that those of us on the far right can't stand to have a half breed as potus. Look pal, we on the far right knew this turkey's background would bring nothing but disaster for our people and for our nation. His miserable leadership and policies are what we have a problem with. Race relations in America pre Jan of 2009 were not an issue whatsoever. Once obama started his march toward race baiting every issue that gave rise to the racists from the NAACP, from the BLM crowd, from certain elements of the almost defunct racist black panther crowd, and the majority black crowd of the kill whitey pig contingent of losers. Do you see anyone on the right creating chaos, starting riots/physically creating havoc at any of the candidates speeches? <Mod Edit - Removed Rule 2 Insult to a Group>
     
  17. Egalitarianjay02

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    You're delusional. Racists are in the news for inciting violence at Trump rallies all the time.

    [video=youtube;fekQKmhzEII]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fekQKmhzEII[/video]
     
  18. PolakPotrafi

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    Again, South America has way more of the most prevalent gene in ADHD.

    The reason Hispanics are less likely to get diagnosed as ADHD is probably because Hispanics are more culturally alien to ADHD, and less proactive.

    https://www.researchgate.net/public...t_polymorphism_An_international_meta-analysis

    Research
    on the genetic etiology of the disorder has analyzed a variety
    of genes, focusing on DRD4 and DAT. One of the most robust
    candidate polymorphisms in the search for a genetic link
    to ADHD is a 7-repeat allele of the 48-base pair repeat in
    the DRD4 gene. The DRD4 VNTR is involved in G-protein
    coupling of the DRD4 neuroreceptor (Wang et al., 2004). The
    7-repeat allele is thought to have arisen between 30 000
    and 300 000 years ago from a series of rare mutational
    events, and to have thereafter underwent positive selection,
    since its worldwide prevalence is higher than what random
    genetic drift would expect (Ding et al., 2001). Although a
    previous meta-analysis found a positive association with the
    7-repeat allele and ADHD (Faraone, 2001), opposite findings
    have recently been published (Bakker et al., 2005; Brookes,
    2005). Genetic demographic studies demonstrate that the
    7-repeat allele is present in highly varying percentages in dif-
    ferent populations worldwide (Chang et al., 1996; Borinskaya
    et al., 2004; Baydala, et al., 2006; Bhaduri et al., 2007; Mansoor
    et al., 2008), e.g. in up to 78% of native South Americans, but
    only 0–2% of South Asians.
     
  19. Libhater

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    Well duh, you're making my point for me. Peple disrupting a Trump rally are indeed the leftist racists. These scum are often criminally disrupting Trump rallies
     
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    Can you give a specific example of racism today?
     
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    How about racism against President Obama?

    [video=youtube;XttOIDWQBFE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XttOIDWQBFE[/video]
     
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    Cuba has an authoritarian government, so it's not shocking that the murder rate isn't all that high.

    Only a handful of White countries have a higher murder rate than Cuba, including Russia, Ukraine,, Moldova, and Lithuania.

    Well, the U.S.A too, but we know that non-Hispanic Whites commit less than half of the murders in the U.S.A.
     
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    You just label anything you don't like as pseudoscience.

    The typical biased agenda of Liberals.
     
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    Not true. Scientific Racism is a form of pseudoscience. Your research will always be tainted by bias because you are motivated by a racist ideological agenda which has been scientifically disproved.

    Dictionary.com - Pseudoscience

    Pseudoscience

    noun

    1. any of various methods, theories, or systems, as astrology, psychokinesis, or clairvoyance, considered as having no scientific basis.

    PSEUDOSCIENCE begins with a hypothesis— usually one which is appealing emotionally, and spectacularly implausible— and then looks only for items which appear to support it. Conflicting evidence is ignored. Notice how often, when you are asked by a friend about what should be a question of fact if the topic were not pseudoscience, the opening phrase is, “Do you believe in ESP?” (or flying saucers, or prophecy, or Bigfoot)... not, is the evidence good, but rather, do you believe, without raising dull questions of evidence. Generally speaking, the aim of pseudoscience is to rationalize strongly held beliefs, rather than to investigate and find out what’s actually going on, or to test various possibilities. Pseudoscience specializes in jumping to “congenial conclusions,” grinding ideological axes, appealing to pre-conceived ideas and to widespread misunderstandings. Not just Creationists, but 20th Century pseudoscientists of all flavors, from J. B. Rhine and Immanuel Velikovsky to Rupert Sheldrake, have underlying their claims and assertions an anachronistic world-view that essentially rejects all or most of the tested, reliable findings of science as “unacceptably materialistic!” The general public tends to view pseudoscientists as “mavericks” who are working slightly beyond the “accepted” boundaries of science. In fact, nothing could be further from the truth. Pseudoscientists invariably represent a world-view which is not simply unscientific or pre-scientific, but rather militantly antiscientific.

    Source: Distinguishing Science from Pseudoscience by Rory Coker

     
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    I guess global warming is pseudoscience too.

    I mean in 2007 - 2008 there was global cooling, which this conflicting data was ignored.

    So, why isn't global warming considering pseudoscience?

    Because Liberals are biased, and only like to use their agenda.
     

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