America is in North America, and should butt out of the Middle East

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  1. The Rhetoric of Life

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    Was Israel wrong to provoke Hamas?
    Was Hamas wrong to defend itself?
     
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    The US has supported Israel since its inception. LOOOOONNNNGGGG before Biden and Trump.

    And maybe if Hamas would stop hiding out in schools and hospitals they wouldn't be targeted. The thing about Israel is that they actually conduct war. Unlike the US. Don't like it? Then Hamas needs to nut up and stay away from populated areas putting their own people in danger like cowards.
     
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    You mean Hamas have a military base it can use?

    I never knew.
    *sarcasm
    - there is no base, stop being an idiot, where else do you think they're meant to defend themselves from?!

    I still fail to see how America's on going support long before these days is any justification for supporting these Nazis.

    You could say you supported them for 70 years or 70 weeks, it doesn't matter; you continue to do it, and BDS in banned in America, then don't blame the world for not listening to a backwards country like America.
     
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    Nope quit killing Jews and make your own country great instead if trying steal someone else. It is at best ironic that those who want to one up Hitler's final solution are making Nazi references to some one else.
     
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    And yet...the world still listens. Maybe the world is seeing something you're not. And you're still posting on an American based forum. Your sanctioning is still not doing too well huh?
     
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    America has a problem with Islam.

    They've always been more Islamophobic for some reason on that side of the pond.
     
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    Aren't you from Great Britain? The textbook definition of a has been nation. Without a decent military or even a written constitution. Your pride and joy? The National Health Service!?!?WTF!!???:deadhorse::deadhorse::deadhorse:
     
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    Spoken like an American, and that's why no one listens to you, you're making up nonsense from North America telling Palestinians to stop stealing Israeli land... Only in a 3rd world country are they that uneducated and stupid.
     
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    Who ended slavery?




    You're welcome.

    What has America done when it was a super power?
     
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    Wasn't Israel that provoked Hamas'...
     
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    Stop feeding the troll people.
     
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    Yes it was.

    Israel started evicting Palestinians for Jewish Settlers, did they not?
    Israel annexed land it had no recognised authority over from Palestine and started it up again last May, did it not?
     
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    America banned BDS, did it not?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-BDS_laws


    **** America for banning this humanitarian group and for supporting war crimes by giving Israel so much aid, other countries depend like Egypt depend on Israel getting their's. 4 billion a year, without condition, meaning Israel can use smart weapons against civilians and America support this.
     
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    It's 2021, America's a has been, your country sucks, deal with it.
     
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    Biden's a coot, Trump's a moron, and your racism stinks.
    America has a problem with race.
    America has a problem with Hamas and BDS defend crimes against humanity and suppress the truth in America leading your average American to hate BDS and Hamas.

    So America should stay in North America, since it's not leading nobody to nothing anymore, just funding Israel's war crimes really suppressing the truth with the anti Boycott laws protecting Israel from being called to account for breaking international law.
     
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    UK was close to South Africa so lead the boycott of South Africa for apartheid, America is close to Israel, but fund the apartheid in Israel. If America supports apartheid, how can we listen to America?
     
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    Because we can't let the radical Islamic world genocide the Jews in Israel any more than we can let the Zionists in Israel genocide the Palestinians. I mean, we could, but we shouldn't.

    ...and I hope I don't need to point out that I'm mainly talking about the elite ruling classes of those groups, not the people as a whole. If folks stop letting themselves be led around by psychopaths in suits and robes, both groups would be able to get along.
     
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    If I were POTUS, I would let them fight it out without shedding another drop of American blood there for anybody. With fracking, we don't really need them. I would cut them all off, including Saudi Arabia.
     
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    Hey, now. Our “The Beverly Hillbillies” house is worth $100M more than your country's low-rent Mayfair House
     
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    They did have a country, it got stolen from them.
     
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    The only talk I've been hearing on the subject is; Joe Biden and Nethanyahu used to clash, he was Trump's puppy, why does Joe Biden sell $750m worth of smart weapons to Israel in April, and pay $350m in re to Gaza in May?! ****ing stupid waste of money if you ask me because Israel used the $4bn America gave Israel in foreign aid to make that $750 weapons sale!
    It's a mirror dude, what good is having allies if you won't listen to them?
    And what good is my country anyway?
    Only reason why I'm holding back from UK is not because I live here/am from here and its beating heart London rooted in London's South Side/South London as we call it; home to the region that is London so an area of 26 x 26 miles (I thought the world used miles until I was in my 20's).. That's a region inside England called 'within the M25' and that's me, my local is this country reaping fruits globally... Only reason why I'm not on its back (yet) is that...
    The system so far works here, and I say
    'so far'.
    What happened was...
    Someone made a petition, followed the proper channels here, where it's a case of, it gets 10, 000 signatures it gets a government response, it gets 100, 000 signatures and Parliament debate it.
    That's not my rules, that's 'the rules' and within hours 300, 000 people signed a petition to sanction Israel for its crimes against Palestine, so on the 14th of June 2021 there's going to be a debate on this in Parliament.
    This isn't in the news and if Parliament don't actually take it seriously and if the Prime Minister walks out and a bunch of no body back benches Members of Parliament end up discussing it; I will challenge and speak up - but we're not there yet, and, honestly, so far at least, the system seems to be working here, but it's what my law makers do with it or not once they deliver, and it is scheduled so it is going ahead, I just hope this withdraws UK support for this regime in Israel.
     
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    Why exactly should we listen to someone who says

    "America is in North America, and should butt out of the Middle East"

    North America is in the Americas. Perhaps you meant to say "The United States is in the Americas"?

    Does anyone know if they still teach Geography in the UK? English? I mean, I know dentistry is a thing of the past there, I'm not sure about what else went extinct there. Thank God I grew up in Canada where we actually have a decent educational system. Oh, Summer Break has started - time for me tO myspEl stuf!

    At least the UK still has Will-not and Can-not. Hey, didn't they drive the only Royal of color off the island? Oh, and the Queen. Hey guys, did you know The Queen banned people of color from office roles?

    Has-been racist countrymen sure are projecting, huh? :roflol:
     
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    Britain must be a third world cause you sure do believe some ignorant crap.
     
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    Our military aid is almost always bottom-line free US-made weapons. It is how we keep the military industrial guys in business. The rationale is that if we don't subsidize US weapons manufacturing, then we won't have weapons manufacturers for when we need them. These manufacturers have gotten good at greasing the wheels as well. By spreading the manufacturing of say a Patriot Missile over subcontractors in blue and red districts alike across the country, then those members have a vested interest in turning a blind eye to these sales.
     
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    Won the Cold War for one.
     

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