America is in North America, and should butt out of the Middle East

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  1. Dayton3

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    Israel deserves our support. And we made an agreement with them to supply weapons and economic aid indefinitely in exchange for them making peace with Egypt in the Camp David Accords.
     
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    Why would any rational individual or nation attack Israel? The Palestinian Authority never misses an opportunity to miss an opportunity for peace and its own state.
     
  3. The Rhetoric of Life

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    Illegal Jewish Settlers stealing homes and clearing the people by force like old women and children at 3 am to make way for some Jew with a Brooklyn or German accent.

    Why would anyone defend Israel or deny Palestine's right for self defence when the other breaks the law and abuses their human rights and normalises their mass murder?

    So just **** off back to America where you don't even know geography or what's going on and stop getting involved on the other side of the planet aiding the wrong side because you're quite literally supporting Zionist Nazis and Israel's apartheid.
    So **** off until you can understand the situation and embarrassment Israel are giving you, because Israel's Prime Minister hates America.
    https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2021/5/20/why-netanyahu-thinks-america-is-stupid
    but you're too stupid to know that and Israel go to Washington and beg for money.
     
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    Let's clear the air, the previous Obama Administration was outspoken against settlements(and I agreed with him.) I concur that they are in fact, INTL war crimes by any measure of the Convention. The Trump Administration was num to it(but then they also largely stopped since they had acquired the big prize, the recognition of East Jerusalem by the administration.) and then they started again, in Netanyahu's hopes that he can keep his corrupt government. And Biden is simply neutrally num to it, which you argue we should be. We should be out of the hairy situation.

    Now, as far as the US becoming a third world nation: I'd say so, and I'd say it's largely on the domestic front. What conservatives don't understand is that we had the highway project and that led the way to a huge host of jobs and opportunities for Americans in the mid-50's. What Democrats don't understand is not to throw bad money after bad money. So, we're stuck between these two knuckleheads.
     
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    This is why America shouldn't blindly support regimes on the other side of the planet.
     
  7. AmericanNationalist

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    I agree with The Rhetoric of Life that this is absurd though. We're going to indefinitely keep up a military state, just so they can be at peace with Egypt? If that's not a failed government(Israel), then I don't know what is. If either a Democrat or a Republican President operated with the failure of Netanyahu, we'd call for that president's impeachment.
     
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    You could as America boycott Israel.

    Since, America is in a better position on this one than it was with South Africa back in the day, America could stop all this spending and funding of crimes againt humanity by listening to BDS and boycott Israel.
    When the world had a boycott of South Africa, there wasn't much American interest in South Africa so it was more symbolic of America which helped a lot and UK and South Africa being commonwealth meant UK and South Africa were closer anyway so UK lead in that when it came to finance; but this is Israel, both UK and USA have a 'dog in that race' and that dog needs to be stopped; so I believe in America if America still wants to lead, that if it sides with truth, it can lead a boycott of Israel given the US and Israel relationship being one's dependent on the other meaning Israel depends on the US; and this will no doubt get my country UK to follow America on this one, and then we can boycott Israel in the West all around the world, like we did with South Africa back when Nelson Mandela was a terrorist in a South African prison cell, before he was one of the country's most celebrated heroes and peace makers.

    We supported the French Resistance and Charles de Gaulle stand up to the Nazis and Charles de Gaulle too, like Nelson Mandela, went on to become one of his country's most celebrated heroes.

    As yourself;
    Do you want to support Nazis and the illegal occupations, or the resistance?
    Do you want to support apartheid, or boycott officially recognised apartheid states?

    I know which side I choose.
     
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    I’m not Jewish and I have no intention of ever living in any country on earth besides the USA. I am an unapologetic supporter of Israel. Palestinians could have had their own nation for the last 20 years now had they accepted the Clinton peace deal in late 2000. When ever they do get a country it will exist entirely on Israel’s terms meeting their security needs as a recognized Jewish state or it simply won’t happen. Ever. It’s now really that simple.
     
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    I agree with your title, if not your reasoning.
     
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    Hamas' is an Iranian funded terrorist organization, The PLO is a corrupt self serving bunch of old men. When they're not killing Jews they're killing each other. And that's how this little set to started. But the there is a very long and continuing history of fratricide among various Muslim factions.
     
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    Given Islam teaches you to murder people who don’t believe in Allah maybe you should just stop talking.
     
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    Hamas has no ties to terrorism and only fight Israel.
    It's not like Hamas are linked to Al Qaeda, it's well documented Hamas only fight Israel.
     
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    Why, so some moron can talk instead about how Jewish Settlers are the victim and Hamas are the Terrorists?

    Maybe you should be quiet now.
     
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    America has always been Islamophobic more than your usual country.
     
  16. ShadowX

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    Lies.

    “Asked which US targets Hamas would hit, Abu Abdullah replied, "Do you think that I can give you an answer to this question? I can say that the Middle East is full of American targets and the world has had the occasion to learn what are the weapons of the anti-American forces in the region."”
     
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    I’m sorry who indiscriminately shot rockets into Israel the other day because of a court case they didn’t like?
     
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    I'm sorry, why did that court think it had the right to judge on that jurisdiction?
     
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    Where's your proof?
    This is just nonsense and lies by Zionists who keep Palestine down.

    Hamas only fight with Israel no one else linked to nobody else.
     
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    That’s because Islam teaches you to murder those who don’t believe in Allah and to SUBJUGATE other countries under shariah law. You can keep that bullshit in those backwards ass Middle East countries. No thanks.

    We have freedom of religion which is wholly incompatible with Islam.
     
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    More Zionist lies.

    God you're full of ****, I should just put you on ignore since you're spouting nonsense.

    Stupid American. Knows nothing about the world. Believes in Zionist lies. What a moron.
     
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    Lol I LITERALLY quoted Abu Abdullah, a leader of Hamas' Izz al-Din al-Qassam Martyrs' Brigades
     
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    Nonsense...
     
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    I've ignored @ShadowX because he's stupid and thinks he can just spout nonsense.

    I'm doing what his country does to BDS too. ;) (May as well start this boycott) so whenever @ShadowX says something, I won't have to listen to it's bull ****.

    He wants to defend his country for banning a boycott of Israel and BDS choosing to back baby killers and Nazis in that apartheid state, I'd boycott his posts; I would say it's an academic boycott, but that would imply he had a brain and could think for himself (instead of feeding us lies Zionists spout to discredit Palestinians).
     
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    Really?
    You sir are lying through your teeth.


    Quran (9:29) - "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued
     
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