Amos Yadlin + why bombing Damascus is important to Israel.

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    Amos Yadlin is the the former head of Israel’s Military Intelligence and current director of the Institute for National Security Studies.

    Now, anyone who has not yet caught up with the fact that this is yet ANOTHER Israeli/Jewish op, must either be ignorant, living in denial, or simply one of them. Yesterday, I went to a great deal of trouble to put together a time line of events, which clearly illustrate how much BS you are being fed, as the corporate media ramp things up ahead of this latest Kosher demanded action.

    In a new study paper, Yadlin confirms it is 'vital for Israel' that the Syrian Gov be toppled.

    Yadlin said that a “US strike on Syria will deter those contemplating use of unconventional weapons against Israel.”

    http://www.jpost.com/Defense/Exacti...ther-leaders-weighing-attack-on-Israel-324957

    Blood hungry for the kill and true to type, Yadlin goes on to say...

    “it’s important for Israel that the US once again positions itself as an actor with strategic influence in the Middle East.”

    Unspin that statement, and what he REALLY means is that America must once again do the bidding of his tribal brothers, irrsespective of human or financial cost. Irrespective of morality, ethics, truth, no matter the high stakes and laws of unintended consquences, it matters not to he is his ilk. The tribe has demanded, and their tribal brothers in the US will deliver, using gentile soldiers to kill gentiles, this time in Syria.
    Thus, and again true to form, they put the sin, the consequences, the criticism, and the cost(both human and financial), onto YOU.

    His comments were then reiterated in the J Post - entitled;

    “The Region: How the Syrian civil war really affects Israel.”

    It goes on to point out that this benefits Israel in a number of ways, including (but not only)..

    It allows them to keep control of the Golan Heights;

    2. It keeps Hezbollah busy and prevents them from attacking Israel;

    3. The emergence of a Kurdish national movement will split up a number of Arab nations, and that the incipient Kurdish nation wants “want good relations and commerce with Israel.”

    4. The Syrian conflict might drive the Druse population into supporting Israel for their own safety; and

    5. Iran will be weakened if Syrian government falls.
     
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    i personally think israel will attack both syria and iran, if chemical weapons or perhaps anything bigger than a manuer filled rocket, hits them.

    ooops... they still fire at civilians, even if manuer is thrown at them.

    I see it, that with all the US military surrounding the region, right now, it is there chance to attack iranian nuke facilities.
    To me, this whole war is a sham and israelis intelligence (oxymoron of terms) is why.
     
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    I think Yadlin presented a cogent argument despite your nonsensical propostion that America does Israel's bidding. The"tribe" references and the logic applied in this post are ridiculous artifacts of blatant hatreds.


    Its amazing how the jew haters resent the fact that arab political turmoil is beneficial to Israel. Its as tho they think that Israel should lament the crumbling of the arab political status quo.

    Its as tho Israel has actually created people who don't want to live in a dictatorship of a small ethnic minority. Or that they dont want to live an Islamist dominated tyrannical nation.

    According to the jew haters, the level of influence and power of Israel is absolutely amazing. Not only do they play puppet master to the worlds only superpower, but they are also responsible for ALL regional turmoil. Its a wonder any of the other nations of the world can function when they are too stupid to realize the power of the almighty jew.

    true to form.
     
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    Amos Yadlin left out some other benefits.
    1. A fake Muslim conquest of Syria will pretend to hate the Israelis and make a lot of noise, and probably fire a few shots.
    Then the Israelis can bomb Damascus....that is if the schieze kopf Yankees don't do it first, and take over Syria to "protect" someone.
    2. A Talmu-"Islamic" takeover of Syria will greatly benefit the Allah-Akhbar crazies who will proceed to wreck havoc in Europe, Russia and possibly the USA, all happening of course with nice hand wringing and whining from the Israelis till the beards have wrecked any risks from the USA.
    3. Somewhere along this chaotic road, the Israelis get Syria's oil, water and farm resources.
    4. Another non-Rothschild bank goes down.
    5. The Israelis get much farther under the guise of "Islam" than they can with their Holy people routine.
     
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    Zio media really ramping it up now, and my guess is that within ten days shot calling Jews in Israel will have conspired with the shot calling Jews in the US to get non Jews to murder non Jews, this time in Syria.

    That is what it comes down to. Assad never used chemical weapons, it is a false flag. The so called 'FSA' are not even Syrian, they are imported mercenaries.

    The length of time it lasts makes no odds to Israel and IJ. They are happy for it to be on going.

    The body count does not matter to IJ. The more the merrier.

    The financial cost does not matter to IJ. You lose they win. They demand it, you pay for it.

    The unexpected consequences(like an escalated war) does not matter to IJ. They won't fight it, and they make money and gains from it, even if it did escalate.

    When Kerry(Kohan) said 'we won't lose this vote', he meant it. Except that by 'we' he meant Israel and IJ not Americans, and he is sure they won't lose it, as they have already determined that they won't.

    First thing the US military should do - refuse to engage. Yup. Refuse all orders. Why not? There are enough veterans out there who know the score after the fact. They can surely tell them, if no one else is willing. And they should be telling them that refusing orders is not an act of treason but an act of patriotism.

    Because, as things stand, American troops follow the orders of a foreign power.

    This is unethical, illegal, immoral, and against the constitution.

    Pretty sound basis to refuse orders.

    Having rejected the orders, the next thing they should do is remember that they pledged to fight domestic enemies.

    You know.. the self same people that have subverted their nation. Those domestic enemies.
     
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    What a dumb premise this thread has. Like, how is it beneficial for Israel to trade a quiet, peaceful yet hostile steadfast border with a dictator who hasn't made any aggressive move for decades for an (according to all those against action) Al Qaeda backed mix of radical Jihadists funded by every oil state in the region and fed by their radicals who only hate Israel more than they hate Assad and have no control whatsoever and will do nothing but conduct suicide bombings against fellow Syrians and cross the border like flies drawn to poop so that Israel will be on red alert for the next fifty years.

    Oh, they will get to;

    2. It keeps Hezbollah busy and prevents them from attacking Israel;

    LOL like they will find a host of recruits for the next hundfred years to attack Israel as that's all there will be to do when one gets bored!

    3. The emergence of a Kurdish national movement will split up a number of Arab nations, and that the incipient Kurdish nation wants “want good relations and commerce with Israel.”

    Wow, an opportunity for a far away friendly nation that is powerless to stop the horde of suicidal freaks banging down their door like Zombies smelling blood.

    4. The Syrian conflict might drive the Druse population into supporting Israel for their own safety; and

    Wow, create the worst kind of enemy so you can gain an ally. Quite a strategic thinker this guy is.

    5. Iran will be weakened if Syrian government falls.

    :roflol: My God you can't write this stuff! One of the orphans you support with hard earned money gets hit by a bus and this makes you financially poorer?

    Welcome back Jack, at least your sources seem to be improving and you are using joos for a change.
     
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    Um...let's look at some undeniable facts.

    1) The US body politic are 100% stamped by international Jewry, via IPAC. The US does what they are told to do by and for Israel. This has been the case for decades now, as far back as 1957 John Foster Dullace warned of it in 'Fallen Pillars'. And it has grown 1000times fold since then. There are several types of people who deny this 'velvet revolution', subversion, hijacking, call it what you will. Jews. The utterly ignorant to anything. The too proud to admit it, but know it really. Those that know it but are too afraid to say it for fear of 'what will happen' if too many start talking about the elephant in the room.

    2) This attack on Syria has been planned for at least a decade.

    3) No one has seen or examined this 'evidence' we keep hearing about, but it all seems to revolve around 'Israeli sources'.

    4) As many intelligent people have noted, this alleged attack by Assad is utterly illogical. Anyone with half a brain and a bit of knowledge can figure that out.

    5) Despite what you say, two thirds of Israeli's/Jews want SOMEONE ELSE to attack Syria. Not them. Someone else. And the people of that someone else? 80% of them are polled NOT to want their country to do so. If you are honestly trying to tell me that, in effect, Israel are on Assad's side, and would sooner he remained in power, then thanks for the laugh.

    If you are then suggesting that any moves by the US to depose him would be directly going against what Israel really want, thanks for the laugh.

    :thumbsup:
     
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    Um...let's look at some undeniable facts.

    1) The US body politic are 0% stamped by international Jewry, via IPAC. The US does not do what they are told to do by and for Israel rather their interests are often the same. This has been the case for decades now, as far back as 1957 when the US realized it had one steadfast ally in the region. There are several types of people who attempt to portray this rational semi alliance -0 conspiracy theorists and joo haters. They are unintellectual, singleminded, use hate sites as their main source of fodder and simply hate joos. They are utterly ignorant to facts preferring to smother any argument with a whitewash of anti Semitism and innuendo. They refer to mysterious higher powers that control all nations and allude that there is an elephant in the room without being specific.

    They say that this attack on Syria has been planned for at least a decade yet have never said anything until recently;

    That even though Israel has simply said they heard something they believe that all proof somehow seems to revolve around 'Israeli sources' despite the fact that the world knows for a fact that Assad has killed tens of thousands of his own people;
    They are right on one thing though, that this alleged attack by Assad is utterly illogical. Anyone with half a brain and a bit of knowledge can figure that out.

    Actually Jack, nobody is denying the Israeli street wishes Syria to be attacked but they don't make policy rather their leaders do. Rather than paying attention to what the local cleaning lady or bartender says try the official policies and leaders.

    Nope. Not saying that at all and wish you would get your argument straight as to who said what and when prior to flying off the handle.

    'Israel wants to keep Assad in power'

    I'm laughing with you Jack, honest.:roflol:
     
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    Israeli cruise missiles launched from submarine towards Syria are shot down by USA Navy

     
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    Which 'they' did not say 'anything' until recently? Can you prove this?

    - - - Updated - - -

    Glad we are agreed that the chemical attack story is BS. Which brings us back to a false flag...
     
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    Um.. yes you are.

    You position is that Israeli people want to see someone else attack Syria, but that the Knesset are dead set against it.

    Therefore, what you are trying to sell us is the idea that Tel Aviv and Washington are at odds over this.

    Thanks for the chuckle.

    :smile:
     
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    Amos, Shamos... what's the point of this thread ?
    The guy wants to topple Assad or doesn't want to... who cares ? You think he has the red button in his house ?
    Israel wants Assad to remain in power !! They will not say it because the butcher killed more than 100000 people, but they prefer
    him over fanatic evil Muslims sitting on their north border.
    Byyyeeeee
     
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    then why are al queda sitting just north of their border and no israeli force is destroying them?

    Them rebels are in between israel and syria, right now!

    Israel is perhaps scared because if the USA attacked syria, i dont think the USA will the target of the rage, but israel will be the primary target until it's over.
     
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    I see.

    So you are the second one on here who believes that Washington are acting AGAINST Tel Aviv's wishes.

    Thanks for the gag.
     
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    [video=youtube;jDTprJFhuIY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDTprJFhuIY[/video]

    If say Russia or any other country did this, tensions would mount, perhaps some form of sanctions, etc. Nope, we give these "spies" a slap on the wrist.
    The USS Liberty? "Oh, my bad, we thought U.S naval forces were the same as Egyptian forces".

    Since its inception in 1948, that nation has made a laughing stock of the Empire. And I personally, am sick of it. Is there another organization like AIPAC?
    At best, I can think of the NAACP. But by the time the Civil Rights act of 1964 occurred, NAACP lost all relevance and political power.

    Can anyone else help me think of one?
     
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    Interesting how the bigots think that the Syrian government didn't use gas, without a shred of evidence.
    Apparently they simply consider anything that might indirectly or directly benefit Israel within the region to be lies.

    OTOH, American intelligence utilizing satellite imagery, on the ground reports and images, and syrian army communications determined exactly where the gas shells were fired from and where they landed. They also note that the nearby syrian army units were issued and ordered to wear gas masks and the fact that all the shells landed in rebel held territory.

    Of course this is all lies based on nothing more than the fact that the bigots don't want it to be true.
    Like everything else that is bad in their world and their lives, the jews are behind it all.

    broken records from intellectually bankrupt haters.
     
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    Except, the evidence of compassion and the human character of good, versus the insinuation of selfish sobs, like the self 'chosen ones' brainwash into their children.

    who brought up israel?

    If israeli intelligence is what the USA is to rely on, then I will call foul, simply because of history proving that they mislead america on iraq.
    show them

    the communications, that i saw, were from 'after the strikes' when syrian forces heard that the strike occurred. They wanted to send people in to address the victims
    but no rebels died. There were no rebel forces, weapons or members in them pictures. Likewise, when the idiot claimed that syria was bombing them areas to hide evidence, i didnt see them bodies of the area that was chemically attacked, being shredded to 'hide evidence'.

    The syrian gave the UN inspectors their gurantee, but the rebels would not and that is why the syrians were shelling the outlining area of the chemical attacks. They did not destroy 'evidence' as they are who called the UN in the march 2013 chemical attacks.

    likewise, the syrians are expecting the UN to protect them, if the USA attacks. I bet few know that either.
    The bigots are people that think they have a right to palestine, based on religious belief of 'inheritance'.

    'jews' are religious adherants of judaism. Zionist are the bigots that believe they have a 'right' because of everything from a religious inheritance of palestine, to the 'chosen ones' mentality that they teach their children. The bigots are idiots that lie about what they are. They are the bigots that believe, live and tell the world that they deserve latitude because of holycaust.
    i bet i can bank that liars are to be detroyed, over the belief that zionist are 'chosen ones' by god.

    i hate the bigots, doesnt everyone?
     
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    Israel's national security = US national security, just as Japanese national security = US national security. We are allies, and we have made promises. Japan has no military, if attacked by China, the US is responsible for fully committing militarily to the defense of Japan. The deal with Israel appears to be based on avoiding Israeli-Arab confrontation. The US would rather go to war with Arab countries posing a threat to Israel, before Israel does, for stability reasons. Arabs have already shown the propensity to unite vs military threats by Israel, proving a danger to the stability of the region. We would be stupid not to learn from this. So again, the red line before Israel has to act in regard to Syria, or any other Middle Eastern aggression for that matter, is the same as the US red line. This is because the capabilities of the Israeli military are much less than the US military. So Israel reaches the red line point much sooner than the US; they cannot allow chance to dictate events for as long as the US can with it's greater capability. So it doesn't matter how far the US can let things go in the Middle East before we have to intervene, it matters how long Israel can wait. We will act before Israel, every time, it is the smartest move. When people get that through their heads, they will see that this about international commitments and diplomacy, and if we don't defend our allies, our word means nothing. Countries can't operate like that. So we will defend Israel, just as we will defend the UK, or Japan. We have a responsibility to do so.
     
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    Most Israeli/Jewish spies that have been caught in the US are later quietly released and told to go back to Israel on a 'visa violation'. Once they are in Israel they are home and dry, as Israel will never extradite a Jew, no matter what he has done and to whom.

    It is quite easy to steal what you want when you are employed on the inside, like Richard Pearle for example.

    Your nation are being screwed by this lot, you know how and you know they do, and it's good to see some honest Americans on here, that put America and their European brothers first, and not Jews and Israel.

    The way Congress bends at takes it up the ass from IPAC is staggering. They should be registered as a FOREIGN lobby group, but no, of course, the exception is made for them.

    Long live the Republic and may you live to see the parasite be removed off your back, before they decide to hop off(probably having sold your secrets and tech to China).

    [video=youtube;KLhgkbkSnoM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpag e&v=KLhgkbkSnoM[/video]
     
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    Bigots?

    So, according to you all those that dare even mention Israel's role in all of this is a 'bigot'?

    Anyone that fails to believe 'Israeli intelligence' blindly is a 'bigot'.

    Please try to offer something to the actual discussion without personal attacks.

    Cheers.
     
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    Japan want you to leave.

    And Israeli 'national security being US national security'. This is just another way of saying that Jews in the US rubber stamp what Jews in Israel want.

    Unless it 'just so happens' that they have identical interests, and it is NOTHING to do with the Jewish influence in the US.
     
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    Actually, according to the Noahide Laws adopted by the USA. It is essentially a crime to oppose the Israelis regarding their judgments.

    It is so as it was in the days of Christ.
     
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    can you publish the poll you reference.
     
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    Nonsense, you appear to have a problem with the definition of evidence.

    Jack

    who said the US is relying on Israeli intelligence?

    Apparently that is what the senate committee was shown in the closed session today. At least that is what Kerry said yesterday.

    You saw syrian army communications? You are on the ground in damascus?

    If Syrian are expecting the UN to protect them, they are doomed as well as stupid.


    again irrelevant to the point.

    once again you prove the point.

    yet another example of not understanding what the "chosen people" actually means.

    You really should overcome your self hatred. Self love is the door to fulfillment.
     
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    No jack, legitimate questioning is not bigotry.

    OTOH, those that constantly refer to the "tribe" and the " jew shot callers" and keep vomiting the nonsense that Israel is americas puppet master and that the jews are responsible for all both world wars, that the holocaust didn't actually happen, well those are merely a few characteristics of a bigot.

    don't you agree?

    By the way, when a posters bigotry is central to the points they attempt to make in their posts, then I believe they are bringing their bigotry into the discussion. Perhaps the mods can clarify this for the both of us.
     

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