Anger & hostility in this forum

Moi sez, "Nuc 'em because we can.".

Anger? Hostility? Moi?

 

Right wingers are continually losing debate after debate here and they always resort to name calling and personal attacks to make up for their losses. In the past whenever I complained to the mods about their violations of forum rules, my alerts were ignored. But now there has been a significant change and alerts are honored by the new mods that have been appointed. Kudos to the admin for employing these new folks and for making this a better forum.

 

Do you believe this only applies to RWers while all LWers are completely innocent? If not, why not say so?

As it is, I think people who are political extremists quickly become emotional when confronted and behave as you've pointed out. This is not just a "right winger" thing.

 

This one is about middle of the road, but I will admit it has deteriorated in the last year or so. I took a couple month break, and will take a break again if the alt right appears in force again. They were really bad after the Daily Stormer and Stormfront were shut down.

There are much worse forums, and very few better forums.

 

Right wingers or alt right? The two are different. I agree with you about the alt right. They are terrible. I'm one of the right wingers, and I see name calling from both sides. In some gun control arguments one of the liberals is continually making sick sexual allegations about gun owners.

 

I agree totally. Both sides can be pretty bad.

 

Trump was elected by Democrats who helped take down the Big Blue Wall.
An anti-establishment populist movement cannot be accurately labelled "far right" or as "extremism".
Almost all Americans now fear Big Government. This is not an extreme position - it is the norm.

 

Yup, especially in the gun control subforum.

 

IMHO, political forums are not an accurate slice of American citizens. For one thing, most of us are a lot more interested in politics than "normal" Americans. Secondly, I think there is a lot higher concentration of political extremists on forums since, frankly, if several of the people on this forum acted at work like they do here, they'd be unemployed. Lastly, the nutjobs who used to yell "The End is Near!" in the city park are now on these forums because it's both safer and warmer to do it from their little apartments.

 

You are living in the REAGAN ubiquity. Trickle down is long ago debunked. Gov as the enemy is sovereign citizen, and all of you right wingers are inching there.

 

You are living in the past. That is all changed. Since Trump, we ALL now understand how different the parties are, how impactful to our lives, one or the other person as leader is. We see how quickly our mores, institutions and infrastructure can erode.

Particularly the youth, that we spit on, saying they are snowflakes etc, telling them to keep their mouths shut,,, they are way political.

 

I tend to agree here. Yes, there are alt-right ******bags supporting Trump, but Trump won because of the Democrats have repeatedly prove they are no longer working in the best interests of blue-collar workers, both union and non-union.

 

How does my post indicate "living in the past"? I mentioned nothing about age. Just because people are young doesn't mean they aren't politically extreme or wouldn't be fired at work if they openly spoke about their political views.

 

Americans who don't like guns can't get it through their heads a number of other Americans aren't going to give them up. Same goes for Americans who think they're going to stop abortion. Won't happen because a number of Americans won't give in on the point. I could go down a list of items of a similar nature on both sides.

I wish a pol would come along who would make the point and then ask the sane people left in the middle to put an end to the nonsense.

 

People always accuse me of being a leftist but nobody in this forum approves of the 2d Amendment more than I do (a former member of the NRA). When I have said people have the right to openly carry hand guns and to keep cops away from them by resorting to weapons the right wingers all cower away.

For years I have said that one of the greatest solutions we have to bring about a better society is to disarm the government police and to arm the people. When I do so the right wingers (with 1 or 2 exceptions at most) go silent when they should be applauding.

 

Some of those on forums try to bully their opinion across as the only truth that we should all abide by, they believe others with accept opinions through anger and intimidation. They lack reasoning and debating skills.

Silly generalisations and flame baiting are common.

 

Can I ask, in which country have you seen this to work?

 

More clearly, Democrats are unified against anything that isn't 100% in line with their agenda and they attack with hate, vile, and immaturity in a way never seen before in my lifetime. Colleges are the perfect example, having safe rooms, quiet spaces and aggression against anything conservative, which is completely the opposite of what colleges should be doing. Young liberals will have an even harsher reality once out of college because they'll have been exposed to very little reality while studying due to the protectionism displayed by their fellow liberals. They'll also find out nobody in the workplace cares about every facet of life that "offends" them. Their faux outrage will be useless.

 

For those who know American history this is an easy question to answer.

When the 13 colonies broke away from England, there was no police force in any city except for Philadelphia. Further, there was no standing army as people armed themselves and formed militias to protect society from any disorder. NYC, for example (my original home town), did not have a police force until 1825. Despite the fact that it was growing from 1776-1825, police were not used to protect society. It was unnecessary. A true, principled conservative would affirm that this is what the 2d Amendment is for. Sadly, we have very few principled conservatives on this forum. Otherwise, they would stand up and admit to all this.

As our Founding Fathers taught, society must first have justice so that order can prevail. Those guys weren't kidding anyone. They were willing to die for that belief. And they taught by example that the way to bring about justice is to disarm the government and to arm the people.

 

You obviously missed all the hate spewed by right wingers against Mr Obama by the right wingers including Tea Party hate, placards equating him with monkeys, hang men's nooses, vilification of all sorts, including deaths threats made against him right here on this forum (the latter were reported and after a needlessly prolonged period, were expunged). If you wish I can post links from the past to prove this point.

 

That's excellent, but fast forward to the present.

In which country have you seen this to work?

 

I saw it. Those kinds of thing are disgusting from either side.

 

You became freaking hysterical after Hillary Clinton lost to Donald Trump and consistently went over the top in posting after posting. Pot, kettle, sooty. Sheesh!

 

I can certainly show you multiple examples of instances in which a disarmed citizenry endured tyranny and many deaths when government took away their arms:

http://www.guns.com/2013/03/27/editorial-what-happens-when-governments-disarm-their-citizens/


The majority of posters on this forum are right wingers who often defend gun rights. You may want to ask them for more data.

 

Right wingers often claim libs are intolerant. Because of that they have created one thread after another to illustrate their claim. Here, is a link to an article which proves it is the right wing that is intolerant:


http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/21/us/university-professors-free-speech-online-hate-threats/index.html


Two dozen students marched out of their classroom at Drexel University in Philadelphia last month carrying signs that read "Where is our professor?" and "Bring back GCM."

They felt they had a pressing reason to protest.
"For 40-plus days, we've been without a professor in the classroom," said Dakota Peterson, a 22-year-old political science student.
Their professor, George Ciccariello-Maher, has been teaching his class remotely via video conference after the university put him on administrative leave. He's not allowed on campus without a police escort. The school says his enforced absence is due to safety concerns raised by a furious and frightening reaction to controversial posts he made on social media.
Ciccariello-Maher, who teaches politics and global studies, said he's received numerous death threats ...




more than 100 cases of harassment aimed at academicians as "over the course of the past year, as liberal faculty members have become increasingly outspoken with their criticism of the Trump administration, you have seen more professors on the left being targeted."

• More than 100 cases of harassment aimed at academics reported in last year, group says
• Reports of comments made by professors fuel activities of "internet outrage mobs"

Yup. That ever intolerant right wing. Now let's see the far right criticize that.