Another aussie dumb enough to have drugs in bali

He isnt facing death, just six years.

 

And what is the drug dealer facing?

 

You know nothing about the Indonesian legal system and little about the Australian legal system so exactly what would you be basing that opinion on other than your clear distatse for Indonesians?

 

I don't dislike Indo's, I just think they have an issue with white people and make examples out of them.

 

not relevant to THIS discussion Mak.

 

Your past posts and the above statement dont match up Mak. Have a look at some of the things you have said about em.

 

No child psychologist would agree that your average 14 year old is old enough to know all the consequences of his actions, and thus accurately differentiate right from wrong. Even a very bright 14 year old will not have the experience to morally differentiate between something which is 'wicked cool' to his immature mind, and a crime. And I would be prepared to wager that he had no idea how seriously the Indonesian authorities take the possession of a very small quantity of marijuana - something which is not even a civil offence in the UK or Australia.

It has nothing to do with political ideology, and as an Australian, you should have a better command of the language than to use that mindless American 'liberal' merde. Especially as a liberal in the Australian political sense is a conservative.

 

The kid is a pot head, and KNOWS that pot is illegal..your whole argument just fell over please try again.

 

I actually put forward no argument, so nothing fell over. I am saying that the kid is not old enough to know all the consequences of his actions. I am old enough, and young enough, to remember exactly what I was like at 14 (four years ago,) and to remember thinking it was perfectly sensible to put the electric toaster in the dishwasher - it did come out beautifully clean and shiny (if a little less than operable).

 

White people? Are you saying they discriminate against people simply because of skin colour?

 

Leo, you are right but I know 40 year olds who arent mature enough to know the consequences of their actions.,

 

Last night I saw footage out on Indonesia regarding the 14 year old. He is one big lump of a lad and doesn't look 14.

 

He is fourteen!!!! A baby!!!!

What was he doing with pot???

Where were his parents???

Surely he can't be held criminally responsible for a non violent offence.

 

Putting that ridiculous Harley Davidson mask on his face isn't going to help him.

 

That is exactly what I am saying. Compare the sentences given to their own people for drug offenses compared to the sentences foreigners get for the same crime, and I bet the foreigners are treated more harshly.

 

Thailand is the same Mak. Foreigners arrested for drug violations generally receive longer sentences in the worse Thai prisons.

 

So why do they treat foreigners more harshly? If you ask me, if two people commit the same crime, and one is from the country the crime was committed in and the other is a foreigners, the sentence should be the same.

 

I'd guess that their trying to send the message that if you're a foreigner and you've come to Thailand to dabble in drugs don't do it because we'll drop the hammer on you.

Do you remember that American kid that was caught spraying graffiti on a wall in Singapore? He was severly caned as his punishment.

 

I don't recall the American kid, but caning him for a bit of graffiti is a bit over the top. Jut give him a bucket of water and some soap and make him scrub it off!

 

Canning him was PERFECT, he will never do it again aye...

When people are guests in another country they must respect that countries rules and laws.

 

Check this out. A woman caned in Indonesia simply for drinking beer. Savages!

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I certainly agree that rules of other countries should be respected, and I have stated this many times before and often copped flack for it. But sometimes a sentence goes way too far. The punishment needs to fit the crime.

 

Alcohol consumption is strictly forbidden under Islam, so I don't understand why she would have consumed it. She willingly broke the law, but the sentence she received is fairly harsh. She didn't harm anyone and shouldn't be physically injured as punishment.

Has this sentence already occurred or this recent?

 

This occured in 2009.

 

I hope the woman is now okay.