Anti-mask doctor's medical license suspended

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  1. squidward

    squidward Well-Known Member

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    They talk alot but never bring a shred of evidence to substantiate that the use if masks reduce the incidence of disease.
    Just yap yap yap. Nothing more.

    God bless em. Their little hands are tremoring and their drawers are soiled.
     
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    That was science? Wow.

    Further, when has every heathcare worker caught any respiratory virus that was circulating?
     
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    That's even more silly.
    The time to contain a virus would be when there were few cases, not that masks would achieve that anyway.

    Might as well piss in a fan and expect to stay dry now.
     
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    Is there any evidence that this doctor spread a single case of covid?
     
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    It makes the emotionally driven among us feel better
     
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    It is entirely possible for someone to be exposed to a virus and not become infected ("get sick"). It is called "having a good immune system". Before a year ago, this was common knowledge.

    And actually, plenty of them HAVE gotten covid... I even have a cousin that is a nurse that got it...

    King (Governor) Wolf (D-PA), who claims that he took all precautions, just tested positive for covid not too long ago as well... Apparently his mask wearing and social distancing didn't work for him...
     
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    Absolutely right! They have nothing. They think a chain link fence can stop (or prevent the spread of) mosquitoes. They think a spaghetti strainer can stop (or prevent the spread of) water.

    Guess what... Mosquitoes still get through and spread around... Water still gets through and spreads around... This is an airborne virus... It is all over in the air and on surfaces... No mask is going to stop that. People who work around deadly diseases do not simply toss on a mask and call it good.

    The amount of lies and manipulation in this world right now is sickening...
     
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    and, don't forget, the real virus doesn't confer long term immunity, so they speculate, but some piece of **** vax made form a strand of complimentary mRNA, sequenced form a virus that doesn't exist in purified form in any lab in the world, and whose sequence was never sequenced from purified virus RNA, in any lab, and which has never been grown in human cell culture exhibiting infectivity, is gonna save us.

    Yay, a .5% absolute risk reduction, based on a horribly flawed PCR, with about 240 needed to treat to prevent one case, as these Henny-Penny wannabes are acting like its the next coming of Jesus.
     
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    True, and we're lucky for this. We're lucky COVID isnt the Spanish Flu or some other super high mortality virus. But a couple of the several great hidden threats of COVID are the asymptomatic carrier problem and the extended incubation problem. So we mask up because its so simple and so effective.
     
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    Well then continue to be an anti-masker but just accept the fact that you're in the minority on the issue and that the issue itself is a huge rallying cry for the growing majority. GOP already lost the Presidency due in no small part to its COVID position, effectively lost the house as well, and now all eyes are on Georgia where the Senate and consequentially the SCOTUS also face a similar fate. COVID is fueling the motivation to drive Republicans out of control of the 3 branches of federal government for generations and anti-maskers are keeping that momentum alive. Every time a Democrat or Independent sees or hears about an anti-masker they think 'I gotta go vote'. Anti-maskers are walking campaign ads.
     
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    No you're not sorry. And you would **** on the evidence anyway. Look around...the cult is a laughingstock. They are on the wrong side of science, morality, and ethics on this one.
     
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    False.
     
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    You gonna produce it this time?
     
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    Did i miss something?
    Was that your evidence?
     
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    Is today spew emotion day or will you get down to presenting some strong scientific evidence in support of your claim?
     
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    apexofpurple Well-Known Member

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    Exit polls, friend. Early and extended analysis exiting polling showing COVID was the top or runner up (depending on what scale you want to consider) issue for Democrats and Independents, whereas the top issue for Repubs was the economy. Furthermore various polling of the GA runoff shows that neither side is growing beyond their November coalitions which means if that stays true then you can expect Dems and Indies to go for Ossoff and Warnock. Given their Nov numbers edged out at least 12k more Dem voters, well, the math is setting is up for a Dem takeover.

    Now having said all this I just want you to know that I'd actually prefer the Republicans maintain control of the Senate. Bi-partisanship was never an goal of the Constitution, hell, the way the thing is written it seems clear that the founders wanted each branch and the parties controlling them to constantly be fighting because I guess they figured stalemate inaction is better than dominate action. I wish the right could drop the baby act with masks and distancing and shutdowns but its too late for that as far as this election season goes so we'll wait and see.

    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/11/03/us/elections/exit-polls-president.html
     
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    I'm just asking for some scientific evidence.
    Exit polls do not demonstrate decreased incidence of disease
     
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    apexofpurple Well-Known Member

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    Oh my bad you quoted a post about elections, I misread thought you wanted me to expand on that. But proof of masks, ok, incoming.


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    Kindly point out the citation that provides strong scientific evidence demonstrating that masks reduce incidence if disease
     
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    Nope. You need to read more than single line. The full context will help realign your thinking and correct the damage that anti-masker lies have done. Anti-maskers have this foundational misconception that masks have to be 100% successful, 100% of the time, under 100% of all possible conditions, and if not then they're a 100% failure. Its wrong, and by reading more than a few blurbs you'll see why. Good luck!
     
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    so you don't even want to pretend you understand any of the science in the links you cut and pasted ?
     
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    I personally will not touch that vax with a 100ft pole... I'd rather just let my immune system naturally do what it's done for my almost 30 year life. I have a great immune system, and hardly ever get sick (and if I do, it's usually quite mild symptoms). There is no reason for me to get a vax, especially a completely unproven and potentially harmful vax that is unlike any other past vaccine. The "risk/reward" for me is damn near all risk, no reward, so no thank you...
     
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    The bolded is simply the result of an insanely high amount of (unreliable) testing in which one detects a couple of viruses way up deep in one's nasal cavities... That does not constitute an infection. Thus, what is being labeled as "asymptomatic carriers" are people who are not sick to begin with. It is nothing to be concerned about.
     
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    does he also refuse to wash his hands... disgusting...
     
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    The typical, as in vastly most common, scenario of an asymptomatic carrier is when a person has an extended replication (shedding) phase prior to developing symptoms. Once a virus has begun to replicate you are, in fact, both infected and contagious - downside is you don't feel sick, you have no symptoms, you are asymptomatic, ie a walking virus dispenser. A lot of people have this experience, and that's to say nothing the baseline lengthy incubation period in all of the above is also relative, as compared with something like the flu which you know you're sick pretty much within 10-18 hours.

    Here's an example:

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