Anti-Ukraine propaganda

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Sleep Monster, Sep 26, 2023.

  1. Lucifer

    Lucifer Well-Known Member

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    Homeschooling, that may be the culprit. Or a limited gene pool. One or the other. Same result.
     
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  2. Pycckia

    Pycckia Well-Known Member

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    If Putin fails to obtain Ukraine, WWiii starts.
     
  3. FatBack

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    I can still remember when they acted like building a wall on our border to protect our own border was so incredibly expensive....

    We could have put a wall around our entire nation including the coastlines and the Southern and Northern borders several times over for the amount of money we're sending to Ukraine.
     
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    I can still remember when the left was promising us that electing Donald Trump might lead to a nuclear war and now we have this moronic excuse for a president that they elected who is actually provoking a nuclear power by having us openly engaged in a proxy war.

    Always projection. Alinsky would be proud
     
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    Let time mag explain the animosity associated with them..

    https://time.com/6249941/ukraine-corruption-resignation-zelensky-russia/
     
  6. FatBack

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    Democrats don't want to know about any of the messy details or the skeletons in the closet of Ukraine because they have been directed to think, believe, speak and say that Ukraine is the good guy and you're supposed to go along with this administration
     
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  7. StillBlue

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    Just so people are clear. Nearly all this aid to Ukraine and elsewhere is not cash but goods purchased in the US creating US jobs.
    Now I have a question to those against supporting Ukrainian citizens fighting in Ukraine for Ukrainian sovereignty would you prefer a return to the USSR? Is that in our interest morally or financially?
     
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    So short sighted.
    So you would support Trumps plan to cancel aid, build a wall, and go all isolationism for the next 4.years, letting Russia and China aggressively expand uncontested till it becomes even more expensive to intervene with our allies?

    All the while people on the inside of our wall are still opening the main door for the most dangerous criminals for their banned product as Trump goes all in on the war on drugs huh...No thank you.
     
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  9. Pycckia

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    Dump the allies
     
  10. Vernan89188

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    Figured that was the agenda.
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    Long live the Military Industrial Complex! While it becomes sinfully richer, society is made more poor.
     
  12. Pycckia

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    You are so clever.
     
  13. Vernan89188

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    Whats the plan when you guys elect someone who turns the wall into a cage?
     
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    First off I would like to ask you who are these people on the inside who keep opening the main door for the dangerous criminals and their banned products?

    And second of all, if Russia is so dangerous why is the US bearing the brunt of this?
    Where is NATO and where is all of these concerned neighboring Nations?

    I would like to see a listing of member countries of NATO and see their contributions to this effort compared to our own.
     
  15. Pycckia

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    Off topic.
     
  16. yangforward

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    You forget NATO has 33 times the GDP of The Russian Federation, so the war in Ukraine will only last a few weeks.

    Unless Russia has the secret ingredient of being in the right and telling the truth and being less disorganized than the liars,
    in which case the west might get it all wrong.
     
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    yangforward Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    In our society we financially reward violence, so we have a totally unrelated problem of gun
    violence in the schools, and the streets, somehow.
     
  18. Vernan89188

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    For the first question, Underpaid border patrol, or pretty much anyone who likes money thats a citizen.

    For the second, because we disarmed Ukraine of its invasion deterrent. We took their nukes.
     
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    Vernan89188 Well-Known Member

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    My speculation isnt though. Its that MAGA will join Russia to force us to be "great".
    The way Moscow looks is what they envy, forgetting the fascism required to maintain that.
     
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    Fair enough.
     
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    The animosity between domestic factions has focused our fears on each other. In the past we would a have “united” against our very real enemies; like Russia.

    Now, we live in TRAITOR tRump’s upside down alternative reality where are friends are foes and foes are enemies. :roll:
     
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  22. StillBlue

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    Oh I agree but at the same time this was started by someone else and appeasement rarely, if ever, has a good outcome for any but the aggressors.
     
  23. Oldyoungin

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    Better than the pro war march to ww3 support I've seen many here do.
     
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  24. Lil Mike

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    I did.


    1. You claim that Russia will then go after "Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, and Finland." While noting that those countries are member's of NATO, you don't seem to carry on to the next step. Well you admit that an attack would end in World War III, but you seem to assume that NATO means nothing; that Putin doesn't care about NATO and has no compunction about attacking a NATO member. If that's the case, NATO is useless since it offers no deterrent value what so ever. What is the purpose of NATO if Putin is just going to attack us anyway?

    2. You never responded to my post about the inevitability of a Russian victory no matter what we do. If you have some secret plan to win the war there are probably some generals in Kiev and the Pentagon who would like to see it. But in the meantime, it's a safe bet that Russia is going to eventually get some to all of what it wants.
     
  25. Pycckia

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    Nonsense. They will never give up their guns.
     

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