Anti-vaxxers crumble as every prediction fails to come true

~ Notice that Deborah Birx is never interviewed ? In her book, she freely admits that they lied to president Trump at the beginning of the fake " pandemic " — to convince him in agreeing with a lockdown for two week in order to " control the spread ".
Health officials were well aware that Trump would resist vaccine mandates, lockdowns and curfews. They also failed to convince him of wearing masks and bandanas.

 

They're investigating these conspiracy theories about Fauci?

 

QUOTE HER, PLEASE.

 

They have concluded that the Covid 19 virus developed with a furin cleavage site funded by Fauchi’s NIH without required committee review was accidentally released from the Wuhan lab.

 

If you read the link, it sure looks like Trump puckered his orange lips, planted them firmly upon Chinese ass-crack and then smoooooooched.

 

Did they decide that it's Fauci's (note correct spelling) fault? Where?

 

It was Fauci’s fault for illegally funding the gain of function research without proper review and approval in the Wuhan lab which was not equipped for this dangerous work. And the worst possible outcome happened.

Will Fauci be charged? Probably not.

 

Trump was a staunch opponent of the Chinese Communist Party.

 

That was for show. The rectal smooching was for dough.

 

Fauci was funding it? Non-crazy source, please.

 

Fauci's NIH funded the gain of function research in the Wuhan biolab safety level 2 (work such as this must be done in a more secure biolab safety level 4). Fauci approved the funding knowing that the proper committee approval had not been given (they didn't even know about the funding).

Paul, Rand. Deception: The Great Covid Cover-Up (pp. 351-352). Regnery Publishing. Kindle Edition.

Paul, Rand. Deception: The Great Covid Cover-Up (p. 310). Regnery Publishing. Kindle Edition.

 

Tariffs and trade agreements hurt the economy of the Chinese Communist Party. No worries - sleepy Joe still got his 5%.

 

She made stuff up to extend the lockdown which could not be justified by data. The "accurate picture" was in her mind. Meanwhile the epidemiologists in Sweden did exactly what the Covid risk data segmented by age and preconditions indicated. The covid deaths there were isolated to the elderly with pre conditions listed by the CDC and understood by the Swedish epidemiologists. The governance in Sweden was unique in that the government department of public health experts set policies without interference by politicians. Swede's under the age of 70 went about their lives normally. Elementary schools remained open. The only economic damage was from a reduction of exports to countries who had shut down their economies. The epidemiologists confirmed that they didn't do enough to protect nursing homes. But when the pandemic was over and if Sweden had been a state in the USA their covid death rate would have been in 30th place (first is bad).

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Birx, Deborah. Silent Invasion: The Untold Story of the Trump Administration, Covid-19, and Preventing the Next Pandemic Before It's Too Late (p. 102). HarperCollins. Kindle Edition.

Anderberg, Johan. The Herd: how Sweden chose its own path through the worst pandemic in 100 years (p. 33. Scribe Publications Pty Ltd. Kindle Edition.

 

Ignoring the hyper-partisan revisionism and citing the documented record:

[CDC respiratory disease chief Nancy Messonnier] first rose to prominence during the Trump administration, where she angered top White House officials early in the pandemic by warning that its impacts could be “severe.”

“It’s not a question of if this will happen but when this will happen
and how many people in this country will have severe illnesses,”
she said on Feb. 25, 2020​

Messonnier clashed with the Trump administration over those comments, leading the administration to halt her regular press briefings and her appearances with the White House’s coronavirus task force... Trump threatened to fire her and publicly dismissed her dire projections...
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Even then, Trump was ignoring the CDC's dire warnings: February 24, 2020:

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Trump's having been briefed early on conflicts with his continually scoffing at the seriousness of the pandemic:

As far back as late November, U.S. intelligence officials were warning that a contagion was sweeping through China’s Wuhan region, changing the patterns of life and business and posing a threat to the population, according to four sources briefed on the secret reporting.

Concerns about what is now known to be the novel coronavirus pandemic were detailed in a November intelligence report by the military's National Center for Medical Intelligence (NCMI), according to two officials familiar with the document’s contents.

The report was the result of analysis of wire and computer intercepts, coupled with satellite images. It raised alarms because an out-of-control disease would pose a serious threat to U.S. forces in Asia -- forces that depend on the NCMI’s work. And it paints a picture of an American government that could have ramped up mitigation and containment efforts far earlier to prepare for a crisis poised to come home.

"Analysts concluded it could be a cataclysmic event," one of the sources said of the NCMI’s report. "It was then briefed multiple times to" the Defense Intelligence Agency, the Pentagon’s Joint Staff and the White House. ...

From that warning in November, the sources described repeated briefings through December for policy-makers and decision-makers across the federal government as well as the National Security Council at the White House. All of that culminated with a detailed explanation of the problem that appeared in the President’s Daily Brief of intelligence matters in early January, the sources said...


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Fauci stated that there is nothing to worry about. China had everything under control.

 

I'll go with the documented record, instead.

As you know, Fauci never said that there is nothing to worry about, nor that China had everything under control.

On the other hand, we know what Trump was saying and when he said it.

 

Here is Fauci and the WHO in late January stating that the coronavirus would not be a problem in the United States because China had the virus isolated in the Wuhan area where NIH funded gain of function testing was being conducted at the bio safety level 2 Wuhan Institute of Virology Lab.

https://thehill.com/homenews/sunday-talk-shows/479939-government-health-agency-official-corona-virus-isnt-something-the/#:~:text=“It's a very, very low,about or be frightened about.

 

Need anymore evidence that Fauci believed that China had everything under control?

https://nypost.com/2022/12/10/why-cant-anthony-fauci-explain-key-early-covid-decisions/

 

It wasn’t part of the 3rd phase study to investigate any of the serious adverse events after vaccination related to whether or not the vaccine actually caused them.

What do you mean by ‘the signal’. Which ‘signal’ are you talking about.

Generally, a safety signal is information that indicates a potential link between a vaccine and an event previously unknown or not completely documented that could affect health. The phase three studies did not indicate any potential links between the vaccine and any of the SAE’s reported.

How on earth would it be possible for either Pfizer or Moderna to investigate every SAE that occurred after vaccination? Some of the SAE’s listed in the Moderna study are Prostate Cancer, Diarrhea, Car Accident, Falls, Covid-19, hip fracture, urinary tract infection. These were all reported because they occurred after the person received the vaccination. Do you honestly believe that such SAE’s that obviously have nothing to do with vaccine should be investigated?

If there were high number of reports of an SAE then that would represent a signal. Further study would have to be conducted to find out if the signal represents an actual risk. Again, Fraiman and Weinstein were out of order making any causal statements from the data collected in the third phase trials. During drug trials, when a high number of SAE’s are reported, the drug trial is halted until an investigation has occurred.

Generally, epidemiological evidence is used to monitor vaccine SAE reports for potential signals especially with extremely rare SAE’s because they may only show up after millions of doses.

Every single medication has rare serious adverse events associated with them. I know in the US they are allowed to advertise medications and you hear a long list of adverse effects that the medication may cause and with some it includes death. I don’t hear people banging on and on about all the medications with all the nasty side-effects. There are risks to every single medication — rare and common. There is no such thing as zero risk. Most of the SAE’s reported after vaccination aren’t even related to the vaccine itself.

Unfortunately, the continual spewing of misinformation from anti-vaxxer’s manipulates people’s perceptions. It’s unfortunate that people believe misinformation over and above thousands of pieces of research that shows the vaccines mostly have mild local side-effects. It’s unfortunate that people don’t investigate accurate, science based information which can impact their lives.

There is not a 1 in 800 chance of experiencing a serious adverse event directly caused by the vaccine as some chuckleheads seem to believe. There is a 1 in 800 chance that a SAE might be reported after receiving the vaccine.

 

The signal is the 1 in 800 serious adverse health issues. The data is certainly available for analysis. Pfizer and Moderna should have broken the data down by age group, severe preconditions as defined by the CDC, and which of the defined serious adverse events were experienced. And they determined if vaccination was the cause of these. They did not and have not. Why is that?

People deserve to know the truth about the side effects of vaccination so that they can make intelligent decisions. If there is no data showing that none of the serious adverse health events were caused by the vaccines then let's hear it. Fraiman and Weinstein and Carlson are doing exactly what the founders wanted. They realized that a very important function necessary for a representative republic to work was investigative journalism in which hard questions would be asked. That is exactly what is happening here. There is no misinformation being conveyed. Only reporting on publicly available information from Pfizer and Moderna and the conference in Romania.

You make my point exactly - "Every single medication has rare serious adverse events associated with them". And the data from Pfizer and Moderna show a 1 in 800 occurance of a serious adverse effect which includes death per the vaccine manufacturers definition which I posted above. Again why have Pfizer and Moderna not been forthcoming with more detailed data and an explanation for these adverse effects.

 

I had a few right wingers on this forum tell me I'd die from the vaccine in roughly 2 years. Needless to say, their prediction failed pathetically.

 

Why would any rational person believe an ideologue with no medical expertise rather than the consensus of medical experts in a medical matter?

 

Which posts are those?

 

Weinstein reported on the analysis of Dr. Rancourt who gave a presentation at the International Crisis Conference recently held in Romania in November 2023. The estimate is Dr. Rancourt's. The video of Dr. Rancourt's presentation can be viewed in the following link.

https://rwmalonemd.substack.com/p/not-14m-lives-saved-but-over-17m

 

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