Anyone Have An Experience With Covid

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  1. LangleyMan

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    Most of us have stories about healthcare denied. Good friends have a 50-year-old daughter dying of colon cancer they never found because they never looked. Now, they look when you're 40. She missed her chance at a longer life by a couple of years.
     
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    Not really much consolation for the people left behind.
     
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    My wife and I witnessed their wedding 54 years ago. He was an usher at our wedding. We were close by (not THERE :no: :lol:) when their daughter was born.

    They hurt real bad. Their family is very close. Not much consolation indeed. Kids aren't supposed to die before their parents.

    The medical care we have lets average folks down. Why should they trust it?
     
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    Matthew 22:36-40

    36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law?

    37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.

    38 This is the first and great commandment.

    39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

    40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.
     
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    I had covid - unvaxed - Omicron. Was mildly ill for a week ... have had far worse flu's. Numerous others who contracted at last year's NY party had similarly light effects 3 of whome were unvaxed. The double Jabbed Super Spreader who gave us Covid had a far rougher go of it but no hospital.
     
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    Tis true that many died to to lack of treatment for Covid induced Pneumonia.. Doctors not implementing standard care for Pneumonia.
     
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    Nope - never caught it. Didn't stay home during the lockdowns, didn't wear a mask all the time and didn't get the jab. Same with my wife.

    I was told I would die if I didn't, along with a host of other lies.

    My experience with Covid is that too much power has been placed in too few hands, and we need to fix that problem if want to remain a relatively free country and people. Some of the most rights-repressive regimes on the planet use emergency powers to enslave the people in their countries, and we got a taste of that.
     
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    ~ This should be plastered on billboards across America and the entire Western hemisphere.
    ~ About the same with me. Early 2020 I had unexplained tiredness and an unusual headache for about 8 days. Never actually got "sick". Tested positive for natural antibodies 2 years after. Did not get tested this year.
    Now I see some who were "forced" to get the experimental shot repeatedly getting sick with cold and flu.
     
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    I see the same thing - the jabbed repeatedly getting sick with cold and flu .. the Un-jabbed not so much. .. and there is no reason for healthy folks to be taking the Jab to begin with .. the odds of death or serious adverse effect lower than during a normal flue season.

    Normal deaths due to influenza /pneumonia in the average year is 20 per 100,000 -- Covid was 40 per 100,000 .. so 100% more .. but was selective to the unhealthy - really old - immune compromised - morbidly obese with 3 comorbidities crowd.
     
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    Got to get loving God in there as Number One.
     
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    Of course. He IS the source of all life, after all. PRAISE GOD! :)
     
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    There's no evidence people getting covid vaccinations are more likely to get "cold and flu" as a result of getting a covid vaccination. This from Bing:

    "There is no evidence that COVID-19 vaccines increase the risk of getting colds or flu infections. In fact, some studies suggest that COVID-19 vaccines may provide temporary protection against these illnesses by boosting the immune system. However, it is still possible to catch a cold or flu after getting vaccinated, especially during the winter season when these viruses are more prevalent. Therefore, it is important to follow the public health guidelines to prevent the spread of respiratory infections, such as wearing a mask, washing your hands, and avoiding close contact with sick people.

    Some people may also experience mild side effects after getting a COVID-19 vaccine, such as fever, headache, or muscle pain. These are normal signs that the body is building immunity and usually go away within a few days. They are not the same as having a cold or flu. If you have moderate or severe symptoms, such as difficulty breathing, chest pain, or loss of taste or smell, you should seek medical attention as soon as possible, as these could be signs of COVID-19 or another serious condition.

    To summarize, COVID-19 vaccines are safe and effective in preventing severe COVID-19 disease and death. They do not increase the risk of getting colds or flu infections, and may even offer some protection against them."

    Try another anti-vax argument.
     
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    Whatever happened to Mother Nature? :roll: :lol: :lol:
     
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    Two experiences. One was in bed for 5 days, tired, low SPO2, had a respirator and used it to bring O2 saturation up for a while. Day 6 woke up feeling pretty good and built a snow man with my kids, 2 weeks later good as new. Non vaxd.

    6 months later had the exact same symptoms, heavy legs, felt like jello. It was after a morning workout and was fine during the work out but something triggered the increased fatigue response afterwards. I went back to bed and slept 10 hours straight. Wife said I didn't move and was in a deep sleep. Woke up in a puddle of sweat and felt great. Nothing since.

    CenterField would say otherwise, but I don't trust him because he comes across as very disingenuous.
     
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    More nothing burger increase too.
     
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    Same people who predicted the vaccine side effects. So easy to call them names, lazy, but easy.
     
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    William Makis an oncologist from Alberta has something to say about this. A lot of things. Debate him.

    https://makismd.substack.com/p/exclusive-interview-daniel-brisson

    Canada and 300% increase in unspecified causes of death. Nothing to see here.

    Florida Obstetrician exposes side effects of COVID-19 mRNA Vaccines in pregnancy - miscarriages, etc (CHD Dec.10, 2023)
    https://makismd.substack.com/p/video-florida-obstetrician-who-exposes

    https://rumble.com/vma46c-dr.-julie...sson-in-courage-about-mandatory-vaccines.html

    Dr. Hoffe vaccinated all 1000 people in his town of Lytton BC. He himself was vaccinated too. When he noticed an unusually high # of serious side effects and wrote the public health Officer Bonny Henry, he was targeted and coerced by his college. A FOIA of Dr. Henry's emails have been released where she acknowledges the injuries, but commands her cohorts in crime to shut down his ability to get his message out.

    Nothing to see here either, right? Just an anti-vaxxer who got vaxxed and then vaccinated everyone else. Sure thing!

    I know you won't read or watch any of this. It's scary. But someone else will and that's good enough for me.
     
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    Your whataboutism is noted, but I find it remarkably alarming that you don't want to comment on Health Canada acknowledging the presence of SV40 in the pfizer doses, known to accelerate cancers.

    Steve Kirsh would have a lot of fun with those stats, especially noting how large swaths of those considered unvaccinated were in fact those vaccinated within 2 weeks of their shot because, of course, the vaccine couldn't have been working at that point due to not having fully developing immunity yet. Never was it considered an effect of the vaccine itself. An exceptional spin job.

    https://kirschsubstack.com/p/data-from-us-medicare-and-the-new?utm_source=profile&utm_medium=reader2

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    The MIT slide presentation
    You can read my Is it safe?” MIT presentation slides here. I highly recommend reading the slides and/or watching the livestream. I tried to make the slides self-standing, but the livestream can be helpful in explaining some of the slides.

    1. The 1 death per 1,000 doses is consistent with other careful analyses such as Rancourt.

    https://kirschsubstack.com/p/will-anyone-qualified-challenge-me

    Maybe you should challenge him?
     
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    :angel: Only Maga types are lied to. The spin is strong in this one.

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    How about this:

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    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1232869/

    :dual:
     
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    I read through much of the transcript and I got tired of the conspiracy theory smokescreen. Where the evidence?
    How about some decent evidence?
    Where are the released emails you're touting? I find it hard to believe the current BC government wouldn't black out anything incriminating.
    Have you looked through the FOI requests? I'm waiting for the evidence the vaccines cause cancer.
    I don't think you want a serious look at your support.
     
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    At least you notice an unvaccinated 15% is doing 47% of the dying from covid.

    This is a statement on SV40 in polio vaccines.

    "Immunization to protect children and adults from many infectious diseases is one of the greatest achievements of public health. Immunization is not without risks, however. It is well established, for example, that some influenza vaccines have been associated with a risk of Guillain-Barré syndrome and that vaccines sometimes produce anaphylactic shock. Given the widespread use of vaccines, state mandates requiring vaccination of children for entry into school, college, or day care, and the importance of ensuring that trust in immunization programs is justified, it is essential that safety concerns receive assiduous attention.

    The Immunization Safety Review Committee was established by the Institute of Medicine (IOM) to evaluate the evidence on possible causal associations between immunizations and certain adverse outcomes, and to then present conclusions and recommendations. The committee's mandate also includes assessing the broader significance for society of these immunization safety issues.

    In this fifth report in a series, the committee examines the hypothesis that exposure to polio vaccine contaminated with simian virus 40 (SV40) can cause certain types of cancer."

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK221112/

    https://kleanindustries.com/resources/market-analysis-research/exclusive-health-canada-confirms-undisclosed-presence-dna-sequence-pfizer-shot/
    Do you have any idea what you're talking about?
     
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    I supposedly have Covid again, according to the quick test kits we have at home from our kids school. Sneezed a bit yesterday and have a mild sore throat today. Did a little hike anyway. Third time, that I know of.
     
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    But they were vaccinated, and got sick from it. That's the point.


    And sometimes, and in the case of this new one, very serious risks.

    Myocarditis
    CHF
    Turbo Cancers

    aren't "nothing".


    Yes, but I don't think you do because you come across as a narrative guy who dismisses any information contrary to your strongly held beliefs.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC452549/

    The polyomavirus simian virus 40 (SV40) is a known oncogenic DNA virus which induces primary brain and bone cancers, malignant mesothelioma, and lymphomas in laboratory animals. Persuasive evidence now indicates that SV40 is causing infections in humans today and represents an emerging pathogen. A meta-analysis of molecular, pathological, and clinical data from 1,793 cancer patients indicates that there is a significant excess risk of SV40 associated with human primary brain cancers, primary bone cancers, malignant mesothelioma, and non-Hodgkin's lymphoma. Experimental data strongly suggest that SV40 may be functionally important in the development of some of those human malignancies. Therefore, the major types of tumors induced by SV40 in laboratory animals are the same as those human malignancies found to contain SV40 markers. The Institute of Medicine recently concluded that “the biological evidence is of moderate strength that SV40 exposure could lead to cancer in humans under natural conditions.” This review analyzes the accumulating data that indicate that SV40 is a pathogen which has a possible etiologic role in human malignancies. Future research directions are considered.

    definitely not "nothing"
     
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    The label conspiracy theory has been used so often to silence any concerns that most people don't care anymore.

    Bonnie Henry Vaccine Injury Emails Freedom of Information Release: “Public Health Experts” or “Public Relations Experts”?


    Bonnie Henry Vaccine Injury Emails Freedom of Information Release: “Public Health Experts” or “Public Relations Experts”?

    A freedom of information request resulted in the release of 40 pages of emails exchanged by BC public health experts and bureaucrats including Dr. Bonnie Henry. These emails reveal internal discussions and emails from the public surrounding COVID-19 vaccine injuries. Reading through the emails is an insightful endeavor despite their heavily redacted nature.

    What’s clear is that:

    1. Bonnie Henry was fielding emails outlining adverse events following the vaccines and therefore knew full well that there are risks associated with these injections since January of 2021.

    2. The default position taken by these experts/bureaucrats is that the injury in question was not caused by the vaccine.

    3. If a patient has an adverse event following a COVID vaccine, getting it reported is difficult and many patients face ridicule when trying to speak with healthcare professionals about an adverse event after immunization (AEFI).

    4. These public health bureaucrats seem to really believe they’re doing a good job.

    Let’s consider these points in turn.

    Dr. Henry was fielding emails outlining adverse events following the injections since the beginning of the campaign to inject every British Columbian.

    With full knowledge that adverse events reports were beginning to accrue, Dr. Henry came on our TVs and radios to tell us that we would just have to fall in line and “do (our) part”. That these vaccines were “safe and effective” and anyone who dared question this rhetoric was to be ridiculed and was “anti-science”. When, according to ever-shifting goals, not enough people complied, she started to use coercive tactics including taking away people’s right to participate in many aspects of society. She even went so far as to take away many healthcare providers’ right to earn a living in the jobs they loved.

    The fact that Dr. Henry was aware of myriad adverse events occurring only adds to the already outrageous fact that informed consent, a previously hailed principle of any enlightened medical practice, had been brazenly abandoned by our public health officials. As responsible healthcare providers, we must respect the Canadian doctrine of informed consent which clearly states that every person’s body is considered inviolate, that unwanted medical treatment must not be administered, and that individuals must be allowed to make their own choices about their medical care1. Consent must furthermore be voluntary and individuals must be free to refuse treatment free of any suggestion of duress or coercion1. Forced or coerced medical interventions are considered assault. And though an ever-continuing “emergency” seemed to give public health officials carte-blanche to order the widespread assault of hundreds of thousands of British Columbians, requests to prove that there was indeed an emergency that justified such a rash and otherwise illegal measure were and continue to be met with deafening silence.

    The default position taken by these experts/bureaucrats is that the injury in question was NOT caused by the vaccine.

    These emails reveal several instances wherein the reporting of adverse events is actively discouraged, reported adverse events are dismissed as “likely not related to the vaccine”, and there is an overarching tone of keeping up appearances.

    Of note is an email from Dr. Charles Hoffe, a family physician in Lytton, BC who wrote to Dr. Henry on April 7, 2021, with regards to “terrible side-effects from the Covid vaccines in my medical practice” with reference to an attached (open) letter.

    By the time Dr. Hoffe wrote that email he had inoculated 900 First Nations people with the Moderna vaccine and had tried to report to the medical authorities that many of his patients had suffered serious adverse events soon after. Two of his patients had anaphylactic reactions, one patient died, and many others suffered lasting neurological and pulmonary injuries2. His letter was sent to the Interior Health Authority to which he received a reply telling him that he was not to say anything negative about the COVID vaccines and was threatened with being reported to the College of Physicians and Surgeons of BC if he refused to obey2. He was told to direct his questions to Dr. Carol Fenton, the medical health officer responsible for vaccine rollout in his area. When he did not hear back from Dr. Fenton regarding the mechanism of injury and how to treat the injuries, he wrote the open letter that he then made publicly available and emailed to Dr. Bonnie Henry3.

    After some internal back and forth in the released emails regarding checking for AEFI reports and connecting with the First Nations Authority, Dr. Fenton wrote within the internal thread “I am in the process of crafting a response with our communications department to try and mitigate the harm”. The string of emails finishes with Dr. Henry saying “talk to him first and then let us know whether this is something we should bring to the attention of the College”. There is no evidence in the emails (or anywhere for that matter) of any genuine attempt to listen to Dr. Hoffe’s concerns or to take seriously his First Nations patients’ terrible suffering after their Moderna injections. What can be found online are countless defamation articles directed at Dr. Hoffe.

    Another example of correspondence that sheds light on a drive to minimize adverse events reporting is found in the email written by Dr. Monika Naus of the BCCDC on February 10, 2021, which reads “we are receiving an increasing number of reports unfamiliar to health care professionals.. unusual reactions following the Moderna vaccine in which there may be an initial local reaction (pain, redness and swelling at the injection site)… then returns 8-10 days after the vaccine.. accompanied by unusual.. ringed erythema as well as pruritus”. After a redacted portion she goes on to advise the email’s recipients, who included the Vaccine Safety working group and HealthLinkBC, that if the severity criteria for reporting AEFI are not met and are, therefore “not reportable” as AEFI, they are to be taken as “expected” events. However, the BC Public Health Act clearly states that health officials must report adverse events following immunization, where an adverse event is defined as: a negative change in a person’s health that (a)occurs after the person receives an immunization, (b)is serious, unusual or unexpected, or for which medical attention is sought and (c)cannot clearly be attributed to a cause other than the immunization4 (emphasis added). A couple of things stand out with respect to this email. 1. An adverse event doesn’t have to be serious to report; it can simply be unusual or require medical attention. 2. Many healthcare providers were pointing out the same unusual adverse reaction with this particular vaccine which would likely constitute a strong signal for a causal relationship. However, reporting this adverse event was inexplicably discouraged.

    The above are just two recorded examples of adverse events being pushed under the rug in two different ways. There are furthermore several instances wherein the language in the released emails surrounding adverse events that were reported is disparaging of a likely causal relationship with the vaccines. Examples include “at this point.. the CSC does not consider the death to be linked to the vaccine” and “(w)e have two temporally associated thrombocytopenia reports…., but as you know this is associated with a variety of causes..” It seems odd that there would be an opinion one way or another. The point of collecting data on adverse events is to see if there is a signal that indicates there may be a causal relationship. Believing the event is not caused by the vaccine lays bare an inherent bias, undoubtedly spurred on by the “safe and effective” mantra that had been playing on repeat, to be encountered at every switch of a radio, glimpse of a bus, or billboard, or glance at a newspaper or social media.

    If a patient has an adverse event following a COVID vaccine, getting it reported is difficult and many patients face ridicule when trying to speak with healthcare professionals about an adverse event after immunization (AEFI).

    One email sent to Dr. Henry by a member of the public is written by someone describing a serious neurological adverse event, though the exact nature of the injury is redacted. They write “We would like to ensure that you are aware of these concerning adverse reactions to the vaccine. We would like to request that you consider a more straightforward and transparent process for reporting adverse reactions to vaccines, for both healthcare professionals and individual citizens…”… “As individual healthcare consumers, we rely on healthcare professionals to report adverse events, but there is no way to report our own symptoms to ensure that a report has been made about our situation. The criteria for reporting have not been updated for the current vaccination roll-out and in news articles I’ve found for the province (CTV), the very low numbers of adverse reactions and the lack of mention of neurological symptoms leads me to believe that not all adverse reactions are being reported. ”… “If these types of neurological symptoms are occurring after vaccinations for healthy middle-aged adults… then it is quite possible that others are having these types of experiences, but they don’t know how to report their concerns. There are many reasons why someone would not report adverse reactions: fear of being perceived as someone who is anti-vaccine, fear of not being believed, fear of not being treated respectfully, lack of access to healthcare, lack of awareness for how to report etc.”

    This is an eloquently worded email that draws attention to an issue that we at Healthcare Workers United are keenly aware of and have published on before5. There is no government-backed way for individual citizens to report adverse events and the vast majority of healthcare workers strongly believe the “safe and effective” mantra (though it is worth noting that individuals can report adverse events via the Canadian Covid Care Alliance here.) It can be nearly impossible for citizens suffering from an adverse event following their COVID immunization to receive empathetic help coming from an impartial perspective regarding the virtue of following one’s duty as a healthcare provider under the BC Public Health Act to report AEFI. And indeed, it is unclear from the emails if this person’s particular adverse event was ever reported.

    Because a process (if convoluted) exists for reporting them, some adverse events do get recorded despite the red tape and active discouraging of adequate reports. You can read the Canadian government report on adverse events on the Government of Canada page “Reported side effects following COVID-19 vaccination in Canada”6. However, what these emails make clear is that these numbers are almost certainly a gross underrepresentation of the true figures.

    These public health bureaucrats seem to really believe they’re doing a good job.

    Throughout these emails, there is a palpable lack of awareness and a sense of importance. Adverse events are often minimized and dismissed and the management of public opinion is placed above human suffering.

    A veneer of respecting downtrodden minority groups is evident. Pronouns are proudly displayed in signatures. Grateful acknowledgments of living and working on unceded traditional territory of First Nations Peoples are haughtily declared. But when real disparity came to the forefront with the suffering and death that the Moderna injections seemed to be causing in a largely First Nations population, our public health officials had more important things to worry about, like maintaining their “safe and effective” public relations campaign.

    Take-Aways

    These emails make clear that our “public health experts” might more aptly be called “public relations experts”; that adverse events are almost certainly being grossly underreported; and that the suffering of genuinely injured citizens is being ignored and shunned.







    1. https://www.cmpa-acpm.ca/en/advice-publications/handbooks/consent-a-guide-for-canadian-physicians#experimentation
    2. https://www.jccf.ca/justice-centre-...-charles-hoffe-against-college-of-physicians/
    3. https://b12f9d7f-66ac-4604-9a44-517...d/b5e5d1_0cff92f971b142998412ae102b01035e.pdf
    4. https://www.bclaws.gov.bc.ca/civix/document/id/complete/statreg/167_2018#section5
    5. https://www.freedomtochoose.ca/bc-physicians-for-science-and-ethics-letter/
    6. https://health-infobase.canada.ca/covid-19/vaccine-safety/#newSafetyIssues

    https://www2.gov.bc.ca/enSearch/det...F80C40&recorduid=HTH-2021-13807&keyword=13807


    SV40, see above post. You even acknowledged that Health Canada has acknowledged it. What's the confusion? SV40 found in more than just one batch of Pshizer's crap vaccine that afforded little protection. Remember when you were told that if you took the two shots you wouldn't get covid? Yeah, most people forgot they were lied to, too.

    How often, and to what benefit, do you allow yourself to be lied to again and again?

    Have at er, I'd love it. Then jump over the Kirsh's or Jessica Rose's substacks and enagage them in debate. They have hundreds of thousands of followers, not just a handful, and have been welcoming debate for a long time. You'll have a huge audience to convince otherwise. Have at er!!!
     
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