Anyone Have An Experience With Covid

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  1. Just A Man

    Just A Man Well-Known Member

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    My experience -- Non smoker, non drinker, not obese, not diabetic, great health for 82. Had two Moderna vaccinations and later came down with Covid-19. Four days in the hospital, blood clots in leg and lung, pneumonia, sores in nose with bleeding, on oxygen for two months. So much for the vaxx. Later heart and lung tests showed no permanent damage. I'm now fully recovered. I'll not take a booster. I'm done with the vaccinations. No lockdown and no mask for me. I should have natural immunity. Either way I'll now just take my chances.
     
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    the vaccine only trains your body to recognize the virus, it's still up to your own immune system to fight the battle(s), sometimes it can still lose, especially if the immune system is in a weakened state

    your body sounds like lost some of the battles, but won the war, glad to hear it
     
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    I'm pretty sure my wife and I both had the virus before it was identified. She had been travelling for work and we both got more sick than we had ever been in our lives after she returned from DC, showing a bunch of the classic symptoms. I still got the vaccine and my boosters with minimal side effects. Still not the worst reaction to a vaccine I've had. My wife and I took a trip to an ecolodge in the Amazon a few years ago and I took every vaccine the travel center offered. The yellow fever vaccine knocked me on my ass for days. I've never regretted getting any vaccine, though.
     
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    Alright, let's bring back my little color-coding system from other threads and see if we can figure out what is happening here. To remind people who are unfamiliar with this system:

    Orange = symptom(s)
    Blue = where the blame is being placed
    Red = the (taboo??) connection/common theme that seemingly "connects the dots"

    Thankfully, I didn't have to use any blue coloring in this case since you realized the connection between the red text and the orange text.

    I'm glad to hear that you made a full recovery and only needed oxygen for two months. My granny (unjabbed) unfortunately took paxlovid and has been on oxygen ever since. She tried to ween herself off of the oxygen (she's a tough cookie who was determined to heal) but her lungs never recovered enough to stay off of it. She needs oxygen all the time now. I have other relatives who experienced health issues related to the jabs instead of the paxlovid (quickly after getting them). My unjabbed and non-paxlovid relatives have all been as healthy as ever (and that's ones who got COVID and ones who didn't get COVID).
     
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    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    This is why actual, statistical information is more accurate than relying on anecdotes alone. But this is a lesson that conspiracy theorists will never learn.
     
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    There's a whole lot of "simple anecdotes" just like mine... Government propaganda is not "actual statistical information".
     
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    And if you actually thought that the number of them mattered, you'd be looking at statistics and not anecdotes. Again, this is the same game conspiracy theorists always play. This is why idiots talk about somehow turning "magnetic" after getting the vaccine and sticking keys and spoons on themselves. It's pure idiocy.
     
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    Keep on preachin' that Church of COVID sermon! :)
     
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    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    I'm sorry that you think that basic empirical facts are a "sermon" that you are desperate to avoid at all costs. But, again, that tracks.
     
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    I honestly don't know what the answer is to all this. I'm pretty sure hubby and I got COVID in 2020 but a fairly light case--uncharacteristic head and body aches for a few days but then it passed with no residual symptoms. Since that time we are double vaxxed and double boosted with no ill effects of any kind from the vaccine. However we have lost three family members and a close friend to COVID and of those only my sister was vaxxed but she was already seriously ill with heart failure. Other of friends and family who have been vaxxed have had the virus--some more than once--but got through it okay. The unvaxxed seemed to be much sicker and had residual symptoms months, even years later.

    I don't know anyone who has been harmed by the vax but I do not disbelieve your experience and do take note of other incidences when the vax did seem to harm people.

    So I don't know. I take a live and let live approach. I respect everybody's decision whether to get the vax, wear a mask or whatever. I doubt I'll get any more boosters though and I really REALLY enjoy not having to wear a mask these days.
     
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    In general, I agree, but not taking basic measures affects more than just yourself. It overloads our healthcare system. I can only take so many late-night calls with my mom sobbing to me, barely holding it together because of how overloaded she is at the hospital before I start to think that maybe people should start taking basic precautions.
     
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    I do understand though here in New Mexico the hospitals have not been especially overloaded with COVID cases. Right now I think we may have 50 people testing positive for COVID in hospitals statewide and I would guess most of those are not hospitalized due to COVID. I do believe for the vast majority that the vaccine will not prevent infection but the evidence is pretty strong that it will likely make it less severe and damaging for most.

    And it is obvious that the vaccine has produced some serious side effects for a few of those getting it.

    Again I have a hard time mandating a vaccine that has caused more than the usual amount of harm, however miniscule the percentage of those harmed is. Ergo my live and let live approach.
     
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    There is no reason to believe that the vaccine is more harmful than the infection. COVID obviously has more serious side effects than the vaccines do. But people have the right to be conspiracy theorists.
     
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    I would suggest you follow what is going on. For example the original covid was pretty benign for younger people and older people were at risk. Plus now, there is better history and some proven therapies. AND as the ailment winds it way through humanity is will gradually attenuate. (we hope).
    Lastly, you should do what your doctor tells you, or at least self assess your risk based on your age, health, based on what you are hearing for people your age.
    And regarding pride and the eternal arguments about vaccines, no one is under any obligation to admit to anyone whether they took a shot or not. You looking out for you is job number one.

    BTW, wife and I had the second round. Omricon? or something like that.
     
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    I was 66 in 2021 and in good health. I was semi-retired, working part time as an instructor in an educational setting. I received the two Moderna vaccinations in January and February of that year. As summer rolled around, the Delta variant was causing a spike in infections. It swept through the class I was working with, and I caught it. I worked with them on a Thursday in July. Saturday evening I felt the onset of symptoms. Sunday I knew I was sick, as I had a fever of around 101. I took some Tylenol, and it broke the fever Sunday night. Monday I went to my doctor and tested positive for Covid. I already felt better because the fever was gone, but I had nasal congestion. Back at home, I used over the counter Afrin for the sinuses. My symptoms diminished over Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday. By Friday I couldn't even tell that I had been sick. While I was sick I kept my distance from my wife and slept on the living room couch. She wasn't vaccinated yet, and she didn't catch it from me.

    Of course, I'll never know how I would have reacted to the virus if I had not been vaccinated. Obviously, the vaccine didn't prevent me from getting Covid, but my unscientific opinion was that my 66 year old body was able to fight it off easily, and I feel like the vaccine certainly didn't hurt, and it very well may have given my body that extra oomph to make my infection no worse than a mild flu or head cold. The whole thing hit me and disappeared in one week.

    I've been boosted annually since then with no ill effects, and no other Covid infections.

    By contrast, my wife's first cousin was around 72 when he caught it. He was not vaccinated. He had lived his entire life cleanly - no alcohol, no smoking, not obese, no health concerns, still active and working at his trade, a family man, happily married with a slew of children and grandchildren he enjoyed. After two harrowing months, most of it in Intensive Care, Covid finally killed him. His lungs were damaged by the infection so badly, they could not sustain his life.

    Your symptoms were far worse than mine, but you're also quite a bit older. Statistically, the older we are, the worse the symptoms are, and there are far more deaths. I'm not sure what to think of your experience. Because your symptoms were severe, you may think the vaccine did nothing for you. But we can't know that because we don't know how things would have turned out without the vaccine. It could be that it actually helped you survive. Glad ya made it in any case. Cheers!

    Seth
     
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    Your age is your vulnerability. You don’t have natural immunity to the newest variation which is why covid is again increasing. The vax is meant to lessen severity so the vax could have saved your life. To be blunt, if you don’t take any measures to protect yourself, you could well end up in the hospital again with worse symptoms. The immune system works very poorly at your age and if a new vax is produced to cover the latest variation, you should get it. Wearing a mask is protective as well — a well fitted N95 gives good protection despite what some of the idiots claim. Stay safe.
     
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    Late 50s. Former smoker (for roughly 40 years). Overweight (but making really good progress!). Occasional drinker. No vaccine.

    Caught the bug January of 2022. Got checked because I wasn't feeling quite right and didn't want to bring a bug int my office. Had a headache and low grade fever for two days. Nothing that aspirin couldn't handle. Spent the next 5 days bored shitless staying at home but the symptoms of the first two days were totally gone and never had any ill effects. The only benefit is that, out of boredom, my yard got the best clean up it's ever had.
     
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    As an addendum to my OP -- my wife and son (he was staying with us for 10 days, he's single and an over-the-road truck driver) both started feeling bad the same time as I did, both were vaxxed, and both also tested positive for Covid. They felt bad for about 3 days and that was it for them. Oh, I forgot to mention during the four days I was in the hospital I had a heart attack. Folks I saw the Grim Reaper but was able to run him off -- LOL. Today I feel great and will turn 84 next week. I believe what pulled me through is the fact I never inhaled a cigarette in my life and am not overweight.
     
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    There's no such thing as SARS-COV-2 making anyone ill.

    Because there are no such things as viruses. SARS-COV-2 just like the phony influenza pandemic of 1918–1919 labeled as the Spanish flu.

    Virons are just a fabricated cover story for the psychopaths in the global governments planned genocide and de-population platforms as such with the use of chemicals during WW-1 from 1914-1918.

    MILTON J. ROSENAU, M.D transmission experiment published in the Jama article below proved that no such transmission of the so-called viron labeled as "influenza" had ever occurred, not even once, with direct exposure from saliva, mucous, or blood from the so-called infected people or animals from human to human, animal to animal, or animal to human and human to animal.

    https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/article-abstract/221687


    https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/article-abstract/221687
    https://resetheus.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/rosenau-experiment-influenza-1918-min.pdf
     
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    My experience 54 years old (at the time), diabetic, non smoker, kidney dialysis patient. On the heavy side though technically not obese.

    Suffered a very mild case of Covid at the start of the pandemic. Got vaccinated plus a booster when they become available (required by the dialysis center) then got a much more serious case of Covid
     
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    You're lucky you pulled through. Probably because you had healthy lungs.
     
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    Hey Doc -- All you say is interesting. I admit I didn't click on your referenced links. Serious question -- do you know how the flu of '14 - '18 spread?
     
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    I worked in a high risk environment. Got fully vaccinated with BioNtech, all the boosters. Caught the virus last year Jan, tested positive.
    Was violent sick for 1 day, very high fever, 2 days very tired, tested negative after 5 days. Smoker, beer, but very active.

    My opinion, as sick as I was for that 1 day, never been so fooking sick for 1 day in my 70 years, without the vaccine, I would be fertilizer.
    Once the fall shot is out, I will take it, no question.
     
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    Bless your heart.
     
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    there will always be those who claim that millions of lives were saved by the covid vaccines, though the evidence is a matter of estimations and guesswork by people who's job it is to defend the vaccines themselves. that this is little better than anecdote will not matter to them. after all, these are folks who worship at the altar of "science". not real science, but the politicized version were are spoon-fed by bureaucracy. my own "anecdote" is a bit different than most. over a year before covid became a thing i was desperately ill. whatever it was attacked on one front and then another until i was too worn down to resist any further. it settled in my chest and progressed to pneumonia in short order. i simply treated the symptoms with otc meds and sequestered myself until it finally passed. i won't lie to you. there was at least a full week where i wondered if i was going to wake up the next morning, but my body did prevail. the fact that this was so long before covid was "identified" makes me wonder about the origins and the timeline we have been given by our already suspect "authorities".

    don't get me wrong, this is a nasty bug and it has undoubtedly been responsible for many deaths. the question is whether these deaths were inevitable, merely hastened a bit by the bug, or if the bug itself was actually the cause. there is a big difference between death from covid and death with covid and that difference is often glossed over by media coverage. i tend to believe that this was merely another of our continual culls that simply remove those from our midst who we have kept alive long after their expiration date.
     

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