AP FACT CHECK: Trump’s false assurances on coronavirus

https://apnews.com/10759cfa1d4c7b4e895b760950fe336d

We are not close to a "cure" and the US is not "by far" the most prepared country in the world. I get the need to instill confidence in Americans, but after trump use the word "hoax" while talking about the virus, there is an even higher need for accuracy while talking about the virus.

This expert notes that the mathematical models are projecting as much as 70% of the world's population will get infected. And this genetic analysis finds that the number of infections is doubling every six days.

 

When articles quote statements as they and officials and studies without a specific name then I’m usually pretty skeptical. In fact the only proper name in that article is Trump.

THE FACTS: That’s misleading, given the far more cautious pronouncements of federal public-health officials and scientists. They say a vaccine is probably more than a year away at best and there are no special treatments for COVID-19. The notion of a quick “cure” is not in their vocabulary as they focus on trying to help people avoid getting the disease in the first place.

What’s actually happening: Studies have begun in COVID-19 patients in parts of the world to see if certain antiviral medications could help treat the infection.

 

The point is that no one else is using the phrase "cure" or "really soon." The earliest that anyone is projecting for a vaccine is north of a year and the earliest anyone is projecting for a treatment (i.e. something to lessen the symptoms and make you feel better while your body fights the infection) is several months away.

 

BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZT!!

Wrong yet again!

Someone should FACT CHECK the left (hourly).

https://time.com/5790545/first-covid-19-vaccine/

https://www.jpost.com/HEALTH-SCIENC...weeks-we-will-have-coronavirus-vaccine-619101

https://www.pharmaceutical-technology.com/news/israel-migal-covid-19-vaccine/

 

You got a quote from any of those articles that says the testing phase, the safety phase, and the mass production phase of a vaccine with be concluded before a year from now?

Anything to suggest that we will have a treatment before several months from now?

The goal from the Israelis is to have the safety phase done within about 5 months, but I have no clue if that would satisfy American regulations nor do I see anything about the ability to mass produce.

 

Then exponential growth has the entire planet infected in 40 weeks and it’s already been 10. Hell, I might as well put in an extension of my April 15th taxes and go to Vegas. Well guys, it was nice knowing all of you, but I’m going to party like a rock star for my last 7 months on this planet.

 

2018-2019 season 35.5 million people got influenza and 34,200 people died.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/2018-2019.html

 

Admittedly the genetic testing article was a bit confusing for me and it does project a very rapid future and in terms of global infections. But I think a significant issue to consider is that being infected is not a death sentence nor will the majority of cases require hospitalization.

 

Is the point you are trying to make here something along the lines, "America already experiences an illness that infects millions and kills thousands, so why not add another?"

 

So now it's wrong to say we're working to find a cure quickly or a vaccine? Can the left politize an apolitical virus anymore? You guys sure seem to be rooting for failure of the CDC to blame it on Trump, that's f'ing scary.

 

No, but it is wrong to make a strawman of what Trump said.

 

Isn't that EXACTLY what you are doing considering if Trump would have said otherwise, the left would have lambasted him for creating panic? TDS does not allow for the president to say anything correct yah know?!

 

...I have no idea what point you think you are making here. You think I would have lambasted trump for telling the truth?

 

Please point out where anyone said that it is wrong to find a cure?

 

Only idiots would believe Trump when he said that a vaccine is relatively close, unless relatively close is more than 2 years away. This forum has shown that there are quite a few who believe him, ergo.......

 

Unequivocally!

And based on the context of his statement, there is nothing to say he lied. NIH could have a vaccine in a year, or next month as they already in the process of clinical trials using Remdesivir which has already been know to work with respiratory distress in SAR and Ebola patients. Patients repatriated from the Diamond Princess cruise ship are already being tested and China is also using Remdesivir to treat thousands of patients.

To say he is lying is absolutely disingenuous!

 

First of all, Trump never called the coronavirus a hoax. This is proof that you fail to research and then you go full speed ahead with anything you hear on the media as long as it's negative about Trump.

Second, you have not a single clue as to whether or not we're close to a cure or how prepared the country is.

Third, I'm sure you think it would be more beneficial to your political party if the country were to panic instead of remain calm and cool, but you'd find out real fast that such a panic would be more destructive to America than it would be to Trump's presidency which in turn would mean that all your party's attempts to hurt Trump would still be all for nothing but would leave a wake of destruction behind.

Fourth, you're calling Trump a liar for the estimates that he's confident in (and he has a hell of a lot more inside information than you or your mainstream sources), but then you're quoting projections that you believe in. To put into perspective how utterly ridiculous you sound, the number of WORLDWIDE cases just passed 90,000.

Let me know when we reach, according to your source's projected estimates, 5,390,000,000 people - or 70% of the world population - infected with the coronavirus.

 

Fact check this...

Trump is trying to not start a panic. It's as simple as that.

Serious question... If Trump knew everyone was going to die, do you think he should tell everyone?

 

That's complete bullshit.

90,000 confirmed cases maybe, even then I think that's a lie. Many countries are refusing to test people and many of the deaths were attributed to other issues.

 

You don't like that point (even though it's not the point the poster was making)?

Reminds me of all the times I try to tell people that drunk driving is already a problem so why legalize weed and add on to it.

 

I reside in the clinical trial field and only an idiot would think we do not have drugs being tested in animals and phase I trials for just this event.

Universities, Pharmaceutical companies and NIH have a consortium just for these types of events!

We've learned allot from H1N1, SARS, West Nile, Zeka and we are constantly looking at mutating viruses. We KNOW these coronas are mutating and we have been working to stay WAY ahead of the game!

 

This is such a petty stupid article, even for the left-leaning Associated Press. Maybe they pissed off the wrong people when they called out their own side (Democrats) for lying about Trump gutting the CDC etc, and so they decided to put out this stupid petty article as an olive branch.

It's just another example of the desperation of the left, trying to split hairs between whether something is "ivory" or "off-white" and then accusing Trump of lying about it.

Here are the quotes the left is getting worked up about in the article:

Note "talking about", "maybe", and "possible", combined with the fact that "very quickly" is relative ---- anyone with any familiarity with the pharmaceutical industry knows this.

Scientists have jumped on this and have already begun studies and testing (which is "very quickly" in that world) but anyone with an ounce of common sense knows it can take years to develop new drugs, and that still could be considered "quick". We're actually fortunate that there were already drugs in the pipeline and they're already testing on infected patients. In the pharmaceutical world that actually is "very quick".

First off, they don't provide the entire quote. But there is nothing dishonest or misleading about "relatively" or "better" or "sooner".

At no point is Trump saying anything concrete or false like that we'll have this 100% cured by next Thursday.

But he's also doing the right thing not to stoke the frenzy that "we're all gonna die!!!!" from the left's coronapocalypse.

Ummm..... we actually are rated the highest. I guess the left wants to split hairs about "by far" This is just more pettiness from the desperate left. It's a fact that we are ranked the highest ---- above Britain, Canada, Australia, and countries in northern Europe.



Oh, in case anyone missed it, this sentence was also in the article: "And many patients recover without needing any treatment."

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I can guarantee you that the number isn't in the millions.

 

Does this mean you will admit you were wrong and Trump was right if there's a cure found within 2 years?

 

Yes, absolutely.

Trump speaks = the left must criticize. What he said, the validity of what he said, etc is irrelevant to the left. This has been proven time after time.

The left has zero objectivity when it comes to Trump and therefore zero credibility.

If the left wants credibility, being objective about things is a good way to start. I seriously doubt that's possible though.