Arizona Grand Jury Indicts Donald Trump Allies, 11 Fake Electors

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  1. mdrobster

    mdrobster Well-Known Member

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    Looks like some people are going to pay through their noses because of it.
     
  2. Nwolfe35

    Nwolfe35 Well-Known Member

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    Many on the right INCORRECTLY note that the federal LE agencies have been weaponized under Garland and Biden

    They just jump on that bandwagon because that's all they have. They refuse to admit that the evidence shows that Trump has committed multiple crimes...and it has

    So the only defense is "weaponization"
     
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  3. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    I don't care about your opinions. Give SC citations and/or indictments, DOJ/international tribunals, etc.

    Or, if you believe Noam Chomsky, they all did, and if you do it once, 'quantity' is a silly argument.

    SC is going to rule on 'exec immunity' and I think why they are hearing the case is that they might rule on such things, we shall see what they say.
     
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    LOL! That doesn't AT ALL trivialize actual crimes.
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Russian collusion has been proven, your own party proved that it happened and it’s continuing to happen – didn’t your impeachment attempt just completely fall apart because y’all were using Russian assets as legitimate sources?

    As to Hunter Biden‘s laptop, that was blatant election interference and has absolutely nothing to do with Joe Biden, even after your team has spent tins of millions of taxpayer dollars and wasted an entire legislative session attempts to prove otherwise.

    trumps DOJ was the first to see this for what it was which is why he didn’t bring charges.

    But whatever you need to tell yourself to justify your views that revenge is warranted. Hopefully the people of this nation see that’s all the right currently stands for.
     
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    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    to quote my good friend John McEnroe. YOU CAN'T BE SERIOUS
     
  7. Turtledude

    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    I don't care about your spam and often hypocritical positions
     
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    I think it would make for a great presidency for Trump to be blundering around abusing his authority seeking revenge! What a great leader! What a great man! He’s told us this is what he’ll do. For once, he’s telling the truth.
     
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    Calm down, my extremely rich friend. What do you think that extremely honest and competent Trump has in mind for the presidency?
     
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    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    I am not the one who is agitated. I think Trump is a crappy choice for president. But road kill will be better than Biden
     
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    Who would be good?
     
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    I beg to differ, the *attitude* started way before that, back to the 2016 election, before russian collusion, before the laptop, and the seeds were planted in 2008. Trump just capitalized on them.
     
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    explain please
     
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    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    better than Biden or Trump-NH, Tim Scott, Ron DeSantis or my favorite (he didn't run) Rob Portman.
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I am — that you had to severally edit down my post shows that you are not however
     
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    balancing act Well-Known Member

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    I saw it start in 2008, when Obama started to be the Democrat nominee. I watched a lot of Fox news back then, and they were outraged at that, Glenn Beck would show Nazis marching on a screen behind him as he talked about Obama. Oddly, I don't remember Hannity being as outraged, but most of the Fox news anchors/hosts were attacking for anything and everything, which actually continued and worsened after he was elected. As soon as Obama was elected, Republican Congress persons declared that their goal was to not do anything to help the Obama admin.
    After that, I noticed an attitude in anti Obama people that I was around. I had an "Obama 2008" sticker in the back window of my truck and caught hell for it, many of the comments I couldn't even post here. That attitude persisted, and many of the anti Obama people developed an anti establishment attitude, which I think Trump picked up on from Ailes and formulated into a movement for the 2016 election.
     
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    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    wtf are you complaining about-I merely quoted the statement I wanted to respond to. did I take something out of context?
     
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    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    Obama got overly favorable treatment from the MSM. They never hit on how he got to be the senate nominee when the press leaked sealed information from the Domestic relations court concerning his primary opponent or how the hell he got into Harvard Law with less than honors at columbia (he was a massive recipient of affirmative action)
     
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    GOOD! BRING ON THE LAWFARE.
    I can see something slowly happening in the GOP (That should have happened 10 years ago).
    I can feel a new "When they go low, we go lower" attitude.
    I cannot wait for the GOP to finally ditch their morals and be just as low, spiteful, vindictive and shady as the left.
    This Karma is gonna come for you!
    and when it does, i'll be here with popcorn laughing my arse off
     
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    I didn't watch a lot of CNN, and none of MSNBC or others, so I can't comment factually.
    It's only personal experience, but the reason many of the non-Obama people I knew (live in the South, worked in a factory, there were MANY) had two main issues with Obama: they considered him a Muslim, and his skin color. I'll spare the disgusting comments, but for most it boiled down to one or both of those reasons.
    Policy wasn't really even discussed and didn't play much of a part in their opinions.
    As I said, I watched Fox news a lot, and in my view, Trump's strategy was designed to take advantage of this and play into it. Somehow, they convinced many people that Trump was the anti-establishment candidate, for the common person. Fox started portraying Obama and the Democrats as the establishment and for upper class only, setting the table for Trump to come in. I believe Ailes had a lot to do with the ascension of Trump and the anti establishment attitude of many of his voters.
    Although I don't care much for affirmative action, I can't fault anyone who took advantage of it. And the leaks? The press in general has done that for a long time.
    One difference is that a long time ago, before the internet was in households, the press was often told to "write this story" or "don't write that story".
    There was a lot of press tampering back in the Kennedy years, but not limited to then. I think it was Roosevelt that they would never photograph him to show his disabilities. Now, they would be highlighted.
    I think politicians in general got used to being able to control the narrative back in the day, and as the internet grew, they realized they couldn't control the narrative like they used to.
     
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    When John McCain picked that bubble head Sarah Palin to be his running mate, that was the start of the downfall of the GOP into what we now call "Trumpism"
     
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    Fox News constantly bitched about Obama. WTF are you talking about?
     
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    LOL!

    Yes, they should ditch the high ideals and morals and impeach Biden for made up reasons! They should pretend that Biden lied about cannibals making an omelette out of his uncle and that it’s a really important story! They should go after his son! They should nominate a man who craps his diapers, is incompetent, brain dead and whines endlessly!
     
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    Wow, going after old people's poopie problems? VERY MATURE
    :applause:
    You are truly an inspiration!
     
  25. Nwolfe35

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    Well, Fox News...despite the constant bragging that they are the #1 cable news network...isn't MAIN STREAM media.
     

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