Backlash On Homosexuals Over Gay Rights

Well I could say I told you so. These things do happen when the rights of the majority are not taken into consideration.

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"...Following Saturday’s brutal slaying, some American media outlets asked the question whether recent gay rights victories may have contributed to the incidence of hate crimes against homosexuals.

As Reuters put it, the spate of violence against gays could represent

“a backlash against the recent advance of gay marriage laws across the United States.” Last week, the Minnesota Senate narrowly passed the same-sex bill, thus becoming the 12th US state to legalize same-sex marriages.

Opponents of the bill questioned the speed with which the measure was being adopted, as well as fears that the interests of people opposed to such legislation are not being given due consideration..."

http://rt.com/usa/gay-murder-greenwich-us-homophobia-511/

 

These things happen? Really? Murders spawned in the fetid bowels of bigotry are a result of not taking the rights of the majority into consideration?

I tend to blame violence from a bigot, which is apparently the case in the story you cite, on the bigot, not on the victim in the matter.

 

Condoning murder now Jeannette. Take care of rule 6 of this forum.

 

I'm not talking about right and wrong, I'm talking about reality, and the reality is that when the majority is not taken into consideration there will be a backlash. This fact was recently verified by what happened to the Copts in Egypt. Pres. Obama warned them not to get involved in the overthrow of Morsi. Well they began complaining that they too were Egyptians and had just as much rights as everyone else. Well they opened their mouth and eight hundred Copts were killed, four thousand were injured and over seventy one churches were burned. They can think about those rights as they pull their pieces together.

 

A yes, the tyranny of the majority.

So, what is it that the gay and lesbian community has done that has in any way eroded the rights of "the majority"?

 

Wait, homosexuals who fight for their rights get blamed now that bigots murder them?

Thats same as blaming women who get stoned, shot or stoned alive from the Taliban because they fought for equal rights.

 

Actually, the majority of Americans favor gay marriage.



Also, who is supposed to protect the rights of minorities? Isn't that what government is for? Or, do you prefer an oligarchy?

 

I guess it's the price they need to pay for not knowing their place and staying in the closet... like in the good old days before liberals invented homosexuality.

 

Effectively blaming the victims of bigoted-motivated violence instead of the perpetrators, is the lowest of the low.

 

You're describing a Marxian dialectic. It's basically "two steps forward, one step back."

After Obama was elected President, I was happy, but I was bracing for impact. For every big social movement, there is a big social backlash. Five years later, the USA has seen more polarization that most of us have seen in our lifetimes. Maybe he didn't know his place as a black man.

This is why I think the majority of Americans should be cautious in celebrating gay marriage legal victories -- it just makes the minority of bigots even angrier. Even though around 73% of people in New Jersey approve of the new marriage laws, there are going to be a loud, angry minority who are going to do whatever it costs to sabotage it.

 

You are cheering violence against gay people?

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Well anyone who commits a crime is to blame and you might not think it is wrong but it is.

 

Indeed, and it's disgusting.

 

The fact that you created this thread as an obvious and rather nasty way of celebrating an attack on Americans you disagree with has made in clear you are not a very pleasant person. Congratulations on that....I suppose.

 

So gays should moderate their requests for equal rights to respect the anger levels of those that would use violence against them? Whenever I see violence being wrought upon a people, I side with the oppressed, so these stories about backlash against gays in the US, or especially those in Russia, etc., only further convince me that I am right in my support of equal rights for gays.

 

So what you are saying is that the Copts in Egypt right to free speech ends at the point they anger a Muslim, but the Muslims right to free speech (and also expression) goes beyond murder?

 

Indeed, the impression I get is that poor Malala should not be speaking up for her civil rights, because there is some other way to gain civil rights that OP seems to be aware of.

 

I guess then when Obama told the Copts not to get involved, he was being a bigot and favored the Muslim Brotherhood? Interesting!

 

and i see you love running with the herd mentality

 

sad its the judges/senators professors in collage that are the ones causing the rift, in public normality

 

I don't have a transcript of everything Obama has ever said, so I'm not so sure he said that, or what context it was in. So I don't have the required information to allow me to answer your question.

 

I didn't need a judge/senator or professor to convince me that gays did not have equal rights. I simply traveled throughout the world, and worked side by side with a gay person for a year. That was enough to convince me of their oppression.

 

Seems to me you all have a comprehension problem. I'm talking about self preservation here and common sense, not justice and right and wrong, or who's to blame, etc. That was never even mentioned...but that's okay, you all can get all riled up over equal rights, etc., etc., but I would still be careful.

 

And that's ok. I never accused you of bigotry. If Gandhi's mom told him in his initial years not to start a ruckus, it wouldn't have been because she was a bigot. I'm just saying I disagree at this point. The ruckus is already underway.

 

thats because your just thinking pinpoint and personal only, thats just your EGO and not a wide affect of the possible damage it will cause for future generations.

 

Obama said it because he knew the Copts would get blamed for the overthrow of Morsi and he wanted them not to get involved. I recall the Copts saying they had just as much rights as other Egyptians and when Morsi was overthrown the Coptic Pope and a moderate Imam publicly supported the army takeover. I thought to myself then, what is he doing doesn't he realize they will become the scapegoats?