Barack Obama, Born in Kenya for 16 Years

Your wrong. It was the responsibility of the DNC to vet their party's candidates. As a Democrat Candidate, Hillary would not have wanted to point out that the DNC had not done their jobs. That would have cost her campaign a lot of funds, and the support of the party.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Ryan_(politician)

If you deny Obama orchestrated the destruction of Jack Ryan, I will laugh in your face with scorn.

 

You really believe that the publisher "accidentally" believed Obama was born in Kenya?

You really believe she came up with this all on her own, and Obama never told her he was born in Kenya?

No, you really are not that naïve.

You know that Obama lied, told his publisher he was born in Kenya, and that's why she put it in his biography.

OR -- he told her the truth and he was really born in Kenya.

Either way, he is conman and a liar and has no business being President.

 

So,your saying that if Hillary had found anything about OBAMA that she could use to win the Presidency-she would not have used it because she didn't want to hurt the DNC'S feelings? BULLPUCKY! I agree on the point that it is the DNC 's responsibility to vet their candidates-are you implying they didn't vet OBAMA? OH,brother------

 

Lets back up here.

You are the one who started this thread- saying that Obama claimed he was born in Kenya for '16 years'- and of course that didn't stand up to any scrutiny- even you can't find any record that Obama actually ever claimed he was born in Kenya.

So you either were gullible, or you lied- which is it?

Well since the author of the bio said that it was her mistake and since she specifically said that Obama never told her that he was born in Kenya- well lets read what she said:

According to Miriam Goderich, she wrote the bio herself.

"You're undoubtedly aware of the brouhaha stirred up by Breitbart about the erroneous statement in a client list Acton & Dystel published in 1991 (for circulation within the publishing industry only) that Barack Obama was born in Kenya. This was nothing more than a fact checking error by me -- an agency assistant at the time. There was never any information given to us by Obama in any of his correspondence or other communications suggesting in any way that he was born in Kenya and not Hawaii. I hope you can communicate to your readers that this was a simple mistake and nothing more."

The question I have is why are you so naive to believe anything Birthers say- rather than believe the person who actually wrote the article?

I am naive enough to believe in the facts. The facts are that the author of the article said it was a mistake- see above.

No- I know that is what you so desperately want to believe. You know now that there is not the slightest bit of evidence that Barack Obama lied about this, and there is evidence that he didn't.

No lets put this in context:

1990- New York Times- Feb 6- Mr. Obama was born in Hawaii1991- 1990- Chicago Tribune- Feb 7- Born in Hawaii to the late Barack Obama, once a finance minister in Kenya

There are at least 3 other publications that I can't find the details on right now- all from 1990- I believe the LA Times, Columbia Review and another Chicago paper- all listing Obama's birthplace as Hawaii.

1991- Acton & Dystel client list published- saying Obama born in Kenya

1995- Barack Obama's autobiography published- declaring his birth place as Hawaii.

So national publications- with millions of readers in 1990, his own best selling autobiography which sold about a million copies- or an obscure brochure.

Its always easy to tell which Birthers will latch onto.

Contrary to all proof otherwise. Now I know you think Obama is delusional, but since all the evidence shows that he was born in Hawaii- from his birth announcements to the 1990 articles, to the State of Hawaii confirming he was born in Hawaii- he could have only said that if he was delusional.

Or Birthers are....

Birthers.......even after showing their house of cards is nothing more than that have the audacity to call the President a liar and a conman.....

LOL

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Conservatives always love to portray Hillary as a heartless (*)(*)(*)(*)(*) willing to walk over anyone- except when running against Obama of course....then apparently she was just too nice to play with the big boys....

 

All you've proven is that Obama's publisher is willing to lie to cover for him.

You do not "accidentally" publish in writing that someone was born in Kenya, when no one has told you that.

That idea defies logic and common sense.

 

I can't find fault in your rationale. All I can say is that even at the lowest point in our relationship and ultimate divorce I never revealed any of my ex-wife's 'lock box' secrets. And, no, there's nothing she had on me. She could have told anything and everything she could about me and it wouldn't bother me.

I just refused to cross that line. No matter what.

But, yeah. I can see your point.

 

And he never made any objections to being mentioned in the press as "Kenyan born."

So, he was either being deceitful then or he's being deceitful now...or both!

Most likely it's 'both.'

He doesn't do anything half way...except perform his job as POTUS.

But there are a LOT of indications suggesting he might be doing all of this on purpose.

And from moment to moment I vacillate between thinking him inept and believing him incredibly, brilliantly deceitful in carrying out a predetermined plan to collapse America's economy & infrastructure and leave us at war with each other and the cities looking like war torn Baghdad.

And then walking away from it all without anyone being able to prove he did anything of a criminal or impeachable nature.

"...the devil's greatest trick was convincing the world he didn't exist."

From "The Usual Suspects"

And then, poof! He was gone.

The Master Agent.

Wouldn't THAT be something?

 

What I said was that the specific topic of Obama's nationality would have reflected poorly on the DNC. So, that specific topic would have been off limits.

If it turned out that Obama was born in Kenya, then it is safe to say that they didn't vet him. You do realize that the Constitution states that only Natural Born Citizens of the US are eligible to run for President.

 

Let go back to the OP again

By Larry Johnsongravatar

May 18, 2012 at 4:42 PM in Current Affairs

This is not my opinion. This is a fact from Barack Obama. From 1991 thru most of 2007, he told the public that he was “born in Kenya.” ....
We don’t have a single instance of him prior to 2007 insisting that he was born in Hawaii rather than Kenya. NOT ONE TIME!!

Well is Larry lying?

Yes Larry is lying.

"Dreams from my Father"- published 1995- page 98- the remodeled hospital I was born- Obama talks about being born and raised in Hawaii- and describes his first trip to Kenya as an adult.

So Larry is lying.

Don't you wonder why Larry would be lying?

 

Why do you think that? McCain's place of birth was discussed- because he was actually born outside the United States.

And why would the DNC leave Obama unvetted, knowing that if John McCain found out that it would mean Obama wasn't eligible?

Do you know that the campaign chairman for John McCain in Hawaii- Governer Lingle- said that she checked and Obama was born in Hawaii- she vetted Obama.

Since we have seen Obama's BC, and the State of Hawaii has stated repeatedly he was born there, we know with far, far greater certainty that Obama is a natural born citizen than we knew for any previous President.

But no Birther ever cared about any previous President. Or McCain. Or Romney.

 

Is this some sort of Conservative or Catholic logic that I am not aware of?

There is absolutely no evidence that Barack Obama ever told her- or anyone that he was born in Hawaii.

The author said it was her mistake.

Apparently your Conservative or Catholic 'logic' makes the conclusion that the only possible answer is that she is lying.

Really? And you know this...because of Conservative logic?

Barack Obama Sr. was born in Kenya. Barack Obama Jr. was not. You conclude that there is no possible way that this writer could have accidentally written that Barack Obama was born in Kenya.

this is what you claimed in the OP:

SO OBAMA LOVERS, WHY DID YOUR MESSIAH CLAIM TO BE BORN IN KENYA FIVE TIMES IN SIXTEEN YEARS????

And of course you can't provide a single instance that anyone claims Obama said he was born in Kenya.

Your claim was a lie, wasn't it Blackrook? Does the Catholic Bible not have the passage about 'Bearing False Witness'?

 

I think its obvious from the posts in this thread.

Its not Obama who is lying about where he was born.

Which brings up this question:

Obama's opponents challenge Obama and say he is a liar- and then use lies to try to convince people he is.

What does that say about his opponents?

 

He's started 14 today... I guess he thinks PF is just a blog for right-wing kooks.

Here are some of his greatest hits:

http://www.politicalforum.com/polit...se-irs-scandal-ballsy-attempt-go-offense.html
http://www.politicalforum.com/polit...inally-turn-corrupt-obama-administration.html
http://www.politicalforum.com/relig...reful-not-over-generalize-future-threads.html
http://www.politicalforum.com/religion-philosophy/302985-do-atheists-ever-get-good-p-r.html
http://www.politicalforum.com/polit...at-last-election-he-really-our-president.html
http://www.politicalforum.com/polit...tler-democrats-nazis-media-collaborators.html
http://www.politicalforum.com/polit.../303064-barack-obama-born-kenya-16-years.html
http://www.politicalforum.com/polit...ve-today-theyd-urging-another-revolution.html
http://www.politicalforum.com/curre...etus-feds-charge-him-first-degree-murder.html
http://www.politicalforum.com/lates...uela-blames-opposition-lack-toilet-paper.html
http://www.politicalforum.com/curre...obama-unconstitutional-appointments-nlrb.html
http://www.politicalforum.com/polit...jack-ryan-one-barack-obamas-many-victims.html
http://www.politicalforum.com/polit...ll-opponents-off-ballot-including-friend.html
http://www.politicalforum.com/polit...lary-get-votes-democrat-convention-floor.html

Those are the ones started today...

 

I agree its pretty out of hand now. Not one of his threads today holds any credibility. Much like this one. And as Margot pointed out its been debunked 5 years ago.

 

Normally, I would be saying this thread belongs in the Conspiracy section....but I am enjoying seeing Blackrook sputter into full Birther mode.

 

You do realize that you have answered your own question. McCain was born while his parents were stationed in Panama. He got a lot of flack when he first ran for the Senate. So the last thing he wanted to do was bring Citizenship into the debate. I also want to point out that I never said that I believe that Obama was born outside the US. I was just commenting on Bluebird's incorrect statement.

I believe that Obama included the statement because he thought that it would sell more books.

 

I thought he was telling everyone that he was born in Hawaii.

 

Actually no, it would have been easy to spin it to make Obama a much bigger bad guy. I understand you wouldn't understand that.

 

And all I can say again is (Oh, Brother!) And obviously you don't read my posts-I questioned McCain's eligibility to run----BECAUSE,he was friggin born in Panama.So,yes I do fully realize what the Constitution states about Natural Born citizens of the U.S.being eligible to run for POTUS!!!!! NEXT-----

 

Full Birther Lava Lamp stuff.

 

heh- you got that right- I got that wrong.

Good catch.

 

I'm sorry,I don't think I was incorrect in my statements----And technically it doesn't matter if McCain's parents were stationed in Panama-he was still born in Panama-which is outside of the United States & the reason nationality wasn't brought up by McCain in the 2008 Presidential campaign is because McCain understood that OBAMA was born in Hawaii-not your point.! But you just keep right on spinning---Enjoying this immensely---Continue on--

 

Why?

Seriously- why?

Let me explain- in 1990 Barack Obama became a minor celebrity as the first African American head of the Harvard Law Review- he was featured in several National and Regional publications- at which 4 or 5 of them mentioned that he was born in Hawaii.

This 1991 brochure was not going to the public- and indeed the public apparently didn't find it for years after he was elected- it was going to book publishers.

Then in 1995- Obama publishes his book- which says very clearly that he was born in Hawaii.

So tell me- how did you reach your conclusion that Obama did this to sell books?

 

The "birther" shtick now ranks right up their with whoopee cushions, rubber chickens, and chattering plastic teeth.

All genuine comedy classics!