Bible verses that Christians ignore

What shows Margot as an non-Christian is his/her beliefs. Which he/she will continually falsify.

Quantrill

 

Jesus Christ said otherwise. You do believe Jesus rose from the dead and said this, don't you? 'christian'

Quantrill

 

I told you, Margot.
LOL!

 

Jesus was speaking of the Law of Moses NOT the Law of the Levites.

Think, Quantrill.

 

Muslims believe in Moses (Musa)

 

Thank God we have you with your direct hotline to the deity to straighten us all out.
The Fruits say what they say. Christians ignore it for their own reasons.

 

You may call it 'pride' when your use of that term is applied to someone else, but on the other hand, I refer to it as 'joy', 'joy' in the fact that you would not make a direct address to my notice to you that I accepted your invite to discuss the Fruits of the Spirit.

"You guys get so ticked off whenever the Fruits are discussed." I accepted that challenge, and all you could come back with was your statement at the very top of this posting. Now who is really doing the 'goading'? You changed the parameters from 'anger (ticked off)' to "pride".

At any rate, I appreciate your approval of my alleged 'pride'. That approval being expressed in your closing statement "Amen":

"a·men (-mn, ä-mn)
interj.
Used at the end of a prayer or a statement to express assent or approval."

So, Thank You.

 

Certainly one could claim that a young scribe asked, "where is this city," and the last surviving old fart to know said, "Dan," then croaked, and the young scribe wrote "Dan" instead of "Laish." And nobody was around to slap the youngster up side the head.

Being led by a book is more like being led by tyranny, and being led by the Spirit in all of us is more like Democracy.

I think I would rather have a Democratic spirit than a tyrannical one.

 

More than 800 years later.... IF it provides cover for entitlement and genocide.

http://www.politicalforum.com/religion/226472-archaeologists-excavate-legendary-city-dan.html

 

So you don't agree with the inerrancy of scripture?
I can sympathize with that.

 

The "amen" was an addendum to my statement, not yours. LOL!

 

Oh my goodness. To what extent will you travel down the road of rationalizations (making of excuses)?

 

Not really a response to anything.
The road of arrogance leads to you thinking I was assenting to your post.

 

Jesus was speaking to the Law, which included Genesis to Deuteronomy.

You do believe Jesus was correct in identifying Moses as the Author, don't you? 'christian'?

Quantrill

 

Indeed, the Christian has a direct line to God. Not that it will do you any good though.

Yes, the fruits are what they are, fruits. Not works. And we Christians have them. We don't ignore them. How you like my fruits?

Quantrill

 

I don't know.
I never see them.

 

Neither do you see the Bible as the Word of God. Neither do you see Jesus Christ as the Son of God. Neither do you see the Holy Spirit in the lives of the believers.

You don't see much. But, thats ok. You don't have the eyes. We don't expect you to.

Quantrill

 

But the Fruits are meant to be a witness to the indwelling of the Spirit. They are meant to inspire people like you perceive me to be.
They are the Spirit's witness to the world through the believer.

And they aren't present in you.
And you don't care.

 

Are you now being judgmental of me?

 

I don't think about you enough to judge you.

 

Then, if this statement of yours "The road of arrogance leads to you thinking I was assenting to your post.", was not a judgment on me, then everyone can rest assured that you are a mind reader and that you know their thoughts (what they are thinking)?

 

As I said, you don't see the Spirit of God in the Word of God. You don't see the Spirit of God in Jesus Christ. You don't see the Spirit of God period. But, for some unknown reason, you can suddenly see the fruits of the Spirit of God. You can't discern anything spiritual.

No. The fruits are no witness to the world. The witness to the world is the declaration that Jesus Christ is the Son of God and Saviour.

Exactly. Your opinion of the fruits of the Spirit in me carries no weight.

Quantrill

 

Then why do you keep asking me what I think of your Fruits?

The Fruits aren't spiritual. They are the manifest characteristics that identify someone infused with the Spirit. It does not require someone to be indwelt to recognize them. They are manifested and recognizable by anyone, and act as a witness to the love of God. As St. Augustine (I believe) once said, witness always, and when necessary use words. The Fruits are how this non verbal witnessing is done.

By the way, I very much see the spirit of God in Jesus Christ.
I just don't see it in you.

 

I figure nothing man has touched or been told and wrote down can be assumed to be free from error. That does not though mean that man cannot be inspired by God and the majority of the moral message come through, if all context of all scripture (plus total of human philosophy, or knowledge) is used, and one prays for guidance. Is prayer nothing more than a ritual of setting up a tripod and giving offerings to the gods? The Moslems have turned prayer into an object to be seen of men, for judging men, and I see no reason to see any Book, so claimed to perfect, when it obviously is not, as anything other than weakness of faith that needs fingers shoved into some object they can see and feel.

When one insists that objects be believed in, not just the word (morality), it is like freaking idolatry.

Logically if God wanted perfect without error, the book would shed (*)(*)(*)(*) or better yet be on the Mythbusters episode about pissing on the third rail or the electric fence and the punishment would miraculously leap those separate droplets of (*)(*)(*)(*) to strike down the offender. It could not be burned, it could not be melted, it could neither be destroyed or altered or changed according to any laws of Atomic physics, and no scientist could explain its existence without saying, "it is from God."

I did not get any grief whatsoever from my Bible teacher at "The Wild's" Christian camp, when I had a kid flipping pages at 2:00 in the morning from one end of the Holy Bible to another; the kid was trying to prove the Bible was the word of God, and sweating by the end of it. At one point the kid thought I was of the D-e-v-i-l. All I was trying to prove is that we must take God's word (morality) even belief in God on faith, not some thing we can shove our fingers into.

When the preacher with the really bad dandruff, who thought the symbol on the Head and Shoulder's bottle was a symbol of the D-e-v-i-l, said that those who were members of the Fundamentalist Baptist Madrassa's Church should not be friends with members of other Churches, like the evil Church of Christ..., I started then to understand what faith was all about. High School is hard enough will Sally putting Vaseline on her legs in history class, and any "friend" you might have is a true believer in the puke with really bad dandruff.

How many people fail to believe, backslide, or worse, because a book, and the believing puke, is made out to be more than they are?

 

Muslim pray shoulder to shoulder to shoulder but they also pray privately.