Biden admin providing veteran medical resources to illegal immigrants

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  1. spiritgide

    spiritgide Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The article:
    GOP senator fumes over Biden admin providing veteran medical resources to illegal immigrants

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/go...-veteran-medical-resources-illegal-immigrants

    The Senator's summary does not mince words....

    "[Biden's] decided, OK, we've got to feed all these 10 million people we've let come across the border, we've got to house them, and we've got to give them health care," Tuberville said. "They've opened up care from the doctors in these [VA] community care systems. The lines now in the VA's are getting longer. Our funds that are supposed to go to the veterans are going to these illegal immigrants that are coming across."

    Fact is- we don't know how many places things like this are going on. We do know that the first duty of leadership, meaning the offices of President and the Congress- is to make America work, FOR AMERICANS.

    Honorable Leadership would fulfill that duty.



     
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    More RW fake outrage.

    1) The agreement between the ICE and the VA started in 2002.
    2) ICE pays for it, not the VA.

    https://www.military.com/daily-news...ays-no-despite-wave-of-political-attacks.html

    "VA does not provide or fund any health care to ICE detainees. There is a 2002 payment processing agreement, in which ICE pays for the FSC to process payments for ICE-funded health care. This involves no more than 10 employees, is fully paid for by ICE, and has been in place for every administration since 2002,"
     
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    spiritgide Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So, anything that reveals corruption in the left is fake news. If they thought they could get away with saying no illegals are entering the country at all- they would. That would require total control of the news and information- and the fact they don't have that (yet) is the only reason we hear about it.

    And it's not the VA or Ice paying for it, such things are just pipelines- and the flow they carry are TAXPAYER DOLLARS.
    WE THE PEOPLE are paying for it.

    Government is betraying YOU. Apparently, you don't mind.....
     
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    This wasn’t the left. It’s from 2002, back when republicans still thought migrants were at least human beings.
     
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    Would you like to tell us who was president in 2002?

    I will give you a hint — Bush.
    Can you figure it out?

    Maybe you can direct your team to help
     
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    spiritgide Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Nothing good has ever been accomplished by bitching and hate. Recognition of something offensive is not "bitching", but choosing to slander because of emotional reactions is.

    The migrants have countries. The condition those countries are in- IS related to the way those migrants have allowed conditions to exist. Same thing we are experiencing tight now- where the irresponsible tolerance of nonsense is allowing toxic elements to poison our own country.

    The migrants are granted the right to knock on America's door, to ask to enter, to ask they be considered for citizenship or other things, like time to attend a university. All legal, and America has been most generous is doing so. NO ILLEGAL MIGRANT IS ENTITLED TO ANY OF THAT.

    It's not a question of migration- but of illegal action.

    If I sneaked in your window at night, and you woke to find me helping myself to your refrigerator and your wallet, what would you do?
    Would you think I was entitled to do that, and offer to cook my breakfast and give me the spare bedroom?
    Or, would you call police to report a burglar, and get a weapon to protect yourself ?

    Being human does not entitle you to anything. How you conduct yourself makes you who you are, and that is their choice. IIlegals are humans- but so are carjackers and serial killers and nuns and heroes.
    What you do is who are- and that is how we separate the respectable, the deserving and the worthy humans from those who choose to be trash.

    Many of the offensive actions of the current administrations relate to old laws- but it is the abuse of those laws, of their intent and spirit, which is the offense.
    Perhaps it is because we fail to demand HONOR from the people we elect- and we tolerate being used by corrupt politicians like Biden and the people who control him. That "tolerance" needs to end.
     
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    Our law allows them to request asylum and remain here while they wait for a hearing. Why shouldn’t they get basic medical care while they’re here?
     
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    You didn’t read the OP or link.
     
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    Because they're illegal aliens. Because there is no free lunch. Because welfare states always collapse. Because American citizens are homeless. Because Americans first, illegals last.

    Need more?
     
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    WRONG question. The right question is WHY SHOULD THE TAXPAYERS FOOT THEIR BILL.

    And our laws are being grossly abused, at the direction of the Biden Administration. Requesting Asylum is a magic password, to go free when you are caught- No proof is required.
    The vast majority of asylum claims are frauds; the government knows this. And asylum can be requested without violating the border, either at a port of entry or any embassy.
    People not in immediate danger are not in need of immediate entry.

    Illegal entry is criminal entry. Doing so should forever bar the person from making a claim of amnesty. Biden could stop the bulk of the illegal entry tomorrow with an executive order.
    He CHOOSES to dump this disaster on the American people. CHOOSES.
     
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    Facts don't matter to MAGAs anymore.
     
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    Under Biden's current rules, asylum can only be requested at a legal point of entry using the CBP One phone app. The millions that have entered without an appointment by rule aren't eligible for asylum.
     
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    The only thing being revealed is MAGAs taking the bait hook, line and sinker once again.
     
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    Not so. The facts we reject are the manufactured ones coming from the lefts snowblower.
    It may be true that many of their sheep don't know the difference, but the people running the machine certainly do.
     
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    Laws being abused, is an argument, but falling for false accusations once again, is a MAGA staple.
     
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    Your sophomoric metaphors aside, the article is false.
     
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    They are here legally until their asylum hearing.
     
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    So you’re ok with paying for medical care if they request asylum at a legal port of entry? Yah I didn’t think so lol
     
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    Then someone call Obama an ******* or something, and put a stop to this bullshit.

    The line at the VA is long enough already just caring for actual veterans.
     
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    See the note on the "snowblower" above. Start digging out, and don't quit until you are in full daylight. Then let it soak in for a week or two.

    From the New York Post: "Under U.S. immigration law, migrants fleeing persecution can request asylum regardless of how they arrive on U.S. soil."

    There is such a move as you refer to, a "new rule" that came out late last year but wasn't effective until May. IF it was being enforced, the illegal traffic would have dropped massively, and the lines at the Ports of Entry grow in the same way. That didn't happen. December set a new record, with 302,000 illegal entries that they know of. That's about the same population as Toledo Ohio- entering illegally in one month.

    "Biden’s rule would presume asylum ineligibility for those who enter illegally." WHY is the word "presume" in there? It leaves the point negotiable and ambiguous, not positive. The door- still open.
    The purpose here is more "show", to be able to claim to be responding to the crisis he has created, in order to turn down the political heat... And retain "Plausible deniability".

    Too little, too late- and still phony. Sooner or later, you have to come to terms with reality- or be destroyed by it.

    Joe is setting records as the most incompetent and dishonest president in history. One of Hunters associates, Tony Bobulinski, is testifying in the House Judiciary Committee today. His opening statement is available; he will testify that: "Joe Biden was more than a participant in and beneficiary of his family’s business; he was an enabler, despite being buffered by a complex scheme to maintain plausible deniability," Bobulinski will say. "The only reason any of these international business transactions took place—with tens of millions of dollars flowing directly to the Biden family—was because Joe Biden was in high office."

    Ref-
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2023/02/21/border-asylum-rule-biden/
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/jo...ss-dangerous-adversaries-bobulinski-testifies
     
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    spiritgide Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    To the left, anything that disagrees with their view is false.
    No need to read or fact check.

    SOP.
     
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    They AREN'T CITIZENS. And they don't have asylum just because they asked for it- that only happens when it's granted.
    And IFit's granted, they have no more right to medical care than citizens would- or less.

    I would hope someone along the line told you that it's not smart to give your country away.
     
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    Yeah, like when MAGAs made the false accusations about the migrants getting housing over vets, which ended up completely false.

    As of now, MAGAs have nothing but conspiracies, like this thread.
     
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    :democrat: PARTY BEFORE COUNTRY :democrat:

    I can recall some of the Lefties on this board claiming that none of this costs taxpayers any money at all.

    And that's what the Demokrats' precious immigration bill is about - prying more money out of taxpayers' hands, not fixing the mess Biden & Co. orchestrated with his open borders policy. Biden could fix that this afternoon if he wanted to, but he doesn't. He wants more taxpayer cash.
     
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