Biden: Doddering old puppet or genius mastermind?

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Biden: Doddering old puppet or genius mastermind?

Poll closed Dec 17, 2022.
  1. Doddering old puppet

    66.7%
  2. genius mastermind

    33.3%
  1. Curious Always

    Curious Always Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You can absolutely see principles and goodness.
    ..and breath, in the right environment.
     
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  2. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    What?
    Ever breathe on a cold day?
     
  3. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    That's 3. You said most.
    Are all thoughts good? Do thoughts often turn into action? Are there bad thoughts and actions?

    Same with principles.
    What is goodness? That's an action isn't it?
    Action is seen.
     
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  4. yangforward

    yangforward Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If you can absolutely see those then voters should have noticed Joe Biden doesn't have them.
     
  5. Curious Always

    Curious Always Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They might. He did the one thing he was hired to do in November, 2020. I’m unclear as to why it’s so hard to understand. You do realize the guy before him had even fewer good qualities? One goes to church and has a deeply held Christian belief system. One doesn’t know which way is up on a book and sleeps with porn stars while his children are being born.
     
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    yangforward Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    He turned the crisis he started in 2014 into the war we are now in, in Ukraine. That's what he will be remembered for. And maybe the fist bump in Saudi Arabia.
     
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    yangforward Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And opening the Southern border. When you do a lot of damage to a country that's what people often remember.
     
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    yangforward Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Failure isn't a one-party thing. G W B's Mission Accomplished, and Bill Clinton's 'that woman', all memorable things.

    But Joe Biden tops them all. If that isn't evident now it will be a few months into the cold winter, made worse by global warming and reducing our carbon footprints.
     
  9. Curious Always

    Curious Always Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    He literally had one job. He did it.
     
  10. Overitall

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    What about on every other day?
     
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    Overitall Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You don't actually see your breath. Only evidence of it from a reaction.
     
  12. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I agree absolutely....but when the FBI has a bug in your ear and you comply with everything they say, that is a different story. That is government gone afoul.
     
  13. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Some are so backwards things need to be spelled out. When a President needs a guide to show him how to get off stage, when a President does not speak without a teleprompter and when he does his press secretary has to explain what he meant, when a President constantly says "I am going to get in trouble.......it is more than fair to assume others are making decisions for him!
     
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    Put a candle in front of your mouth.
     
  15. Overitall

    Overitall Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You're still seeing a reaction, not the breath itself.
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    "We hold these truths to be self evident that all men are created equal. That they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights....."
    My unseen Being? He is evident to a good many. Especially those who Founded our Nation. You mock them and their principles. You have been drawn out and exposed at the root. It is time we recognize statists for who they are and what they try to do.
     
  17. yabberefugee

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    You show a great deal of misunderstanding there. "All have sinned and fall short of the Glory of God". You think sin is forgiven by going to Church? Ha! The two you address here are on a level playing field. One favors aborting the young and the other protects the innocent. So what's your point?

    You believe the Biden crime family is not corrupt? What's your point?
     
  18. Patricio Da Silva

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    Not on minor things like that. The big decisions do not require fast reflexive responses. One slows down when one is older, but that doesn't mean one is incapable of clear thinking, when there is time available to reflect, listen to feedback, consider ramifications, etc., as any major decision would allow. So, your premise doesn't necessarily follow.
     
  19. yabberefugee

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    There was a movie a while back and Kevin Costner was in it. It was about the Cuban Missile Crisis. I would like to see how you would cast doddering old Biden in the place of JFK. They couldn't give him instructions fast enough! All that aside......even Obama new Joe had a propensity to "screw things up". He never once made a wise foreign policy decision in his life! No, Joe is just a figure head.
     
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    Your opinion flies in the face of the facts, the first fact of which he got more votes than any president in history, and 7 million more than Trump.

    And, in his first two years of his presidency, accomplished the following:

     
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    A sophmoric attempt to make a geriatric moron look good by spending other peoples money to buy votes.
     
  22. dairyair

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    Thor?
    Vishnu?
    Buddha?
    El?
    Adonis?
    Which of these creators was referenced?
    Their creator? Mom and dad? Grandparents?
    Their creator means different things to different people.

    I don't mock them at all. In fact I think they chose their words very very carefully.

    I reject your personal version of their words.
     
  23. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If you knew history, or cared about unrevised history, you'd know darn well the Creator they were talking about. If you traveled around Washington D.C. and read the monuments, or saw Moses depicted at the Supreme Court Building, you might have an idea. If you studied Washington you would know the One he referred to as Providence and there was no confusion with him as to who the Creator is. If you read Lincoln's 2nd inaugural address you would have an idea. Instead, like other's that don't acknowledge the Creator....you play the "vague game". It's like what the meaning of "is" is. So you acknowledge "government" that is certain and from "government" your rights are granted. That is where you part ways with a good many Americans (including the Founders).
     
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    I know they use the words 'their Creator", which specifies nothing.
    They chose their words very carefully. And didn't limit anything from being used as "Creator'.

    As I said, I reject your version.
    We have a constitutional right have the right to choose any religion or Creator as each of us wants. NO one is forced into the same thoughts and beliefs as you. That's why the founders came to this country. To flee such restrictive thoughts.
     
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    And as adverse as it is to you, they referred to the God of Isaac Jacob and Abraham. That aside, it is a power beyond oneself. No man bestows rights on another.....they come from God. That is from our Christian Heritage. Not Buddha or any of the other gods you mention. So if you want to make the "State" a god that dispenses rights.....we have seen it throughout history. In fact, we see it today.

    Whereas it is the duty of all nations to acknowledge the providence of Almighty God, to obey His will, to be grateful for His benefits, and humbly to implore His protection and favor-and whereas both Houses of Congress have by their joint Committee requested me "to recommend to the People of the United States a day of public thanksgiving and prayer to be observed by acknowledging with grateful hearts the many signal favors of Almighty God especially by affording them an opportunity peaceably to establish a form of government for their safety and happiness..."Given under my hand at the City of New York the third day of October 1789 George Washington

    Most Americans stand with George who wasn't shy about identifying the Almighty God to which he was grateful. So as vague as you want to be about it, our rights come from an entity greater than any human.
     

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