Biden says troops should be dishonorably discharged if they disobey order to get Covid vaccine

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  1. Bush Lawyer

    Bush Lawyer Well-Known Member

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    Come on, to draw a comparison between choices available to private citizens to those available to people who have enlisted is bizarre.
     
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    Another bizarre comparison!
     
  3. Bush Lawyer

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    Yes, okay, I'll agree that is over the top. I wonder, however, if that is the only way of ensuring they don't have an entitlement to normal benefits available to ex Military?
     
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    According to a Chinese dissident, the Covid was released on purpose by the Chinese. In fact, they made two attempts at it and the second one stuck. Google has censored the story, I had to use DuckDuckGo to find it. Why would Google censor this story?

    In any event, our enemy IS creating viruses right and left and it is obviously spreading them to the world. I am starting to wonder if American elites put China up to it. They certainly have used it to consolidate their power and wealth at our expense.

    https://www.audacy.com/knx1070/news/world/whistleblower-china-released-covid-19-on-purpose-in-2019

     
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    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/judge-us-cant-force-vaccines/

    Ahem...
     
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    Racist reckless Biden is a genuine moron lol. Not surprising to see such an unamerican idiot do such a poor job.
     
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    How is it bazarre. They knew agent orange was dangerous to our soldiers, yet continued to soak them down with it.
     
  8. Bush Lawyer

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    ....and they know a Covid jab is dangerous to soldiers?
     
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    Dunno yet.. Still capturing data. That's what happens when in phase III clinical trials. BTW, Pfizers FDA approval bypassed a litany of safety protocol steps as well as all IC procedures that all other clinical trials have to adhere too.
     
  10. Bush Lawyer

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    Okay...so at least you can concede they do not know if the jab is dangerous.
     
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    Have you taken the vaccine?

    Why would you put something in your body without understanding what it is from not biased sources?

    If you havent taken the vaccine then fair enough good in you for not just taking my word.

    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...gQFnoECEkQBQ&usg=AOvVaw2CxtdVh_aQge6OkxTBt4OR
     
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    Did you agree when it was about transgendered and or gay people? Dont ask dont tell? What about if the military mandated sex changes for all? What if they mandated them be test subjects for the rest of the population? Where does the line get drawn? The military is a force that is prepared for war not partisan goals, at least it shouldn't be.
     
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    That sure is a nice way of saying you hope some die.
     
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    Except it seems the "WH" wants to dishonorably discharge anyone who refuses the vaccine. That is the problem.
     
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    It is if it is an illegal order. I'm just not so sure being ordered to take a vaccine is an illegal order.
     
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    as long as it applies to everyone equally, not just lgbtq, if heterosexuals can't ask, don't tell, fine
     
  18. Bush Lawyer

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    No I have not had it ......yet. I am waiting to get access to Moderna.
     
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    I would suggest doing as much research as you can.
     
  20. Bush Lawyer

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    Yah, I will. I'll ask a Doctor.
     
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    The topic is now Anthrax, was that your initial reason for the post?
     
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    Really going balls out on this one...
     
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    Things are so authoritarian now that Australian police are beating down old women and shutting down internet.

    Biden seems almost inspired by this.
     
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    You mean follow the chain of command. Like Millie did?
     
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    Oh boy, several wrong concepts in just two short paragraphs...

    1) The Pfizer vaccine is no longer experimental as it's been fully approved by the FDA.

    2) To consider something a vaccine, there is no requirement that a vaccine must be 100% efficacious in preventing infection. The flu shot is a vaccine, and its efficacy is 20% to 80% depending on the year.

    3) This disease has low mortality in military aged persons but has a high incidence of organ damage in that same population. Death is not all. Look at the Ohio State University study of student athletes who got mild or asymptomatic Covid: 30% of them came out of it with heart damage.

    4) Also, it is false that this vaccine does not prevent infection. Even though it doesn't prevent all infections, it still reduces very significantly the number of infections. The breakthrough infections are still a minority among vaccinated people, and unvaccinated people catch the disease more often, so, yes, for a lot of people the vaccine does prevent infection. But not for all people. Nobody in the scientific community has ever pretended that these vaccines were 100% effective.

    5) Regarding the new variants, it's been shown that a booster shot restores very high levels of protection against the variants.

    This said, I think that dishonorable discharge is pushing things too far. It is unnecessary to go to these extremes.
     
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