Bikers gang up on SUV.

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  1. JavisBeason

    JavisBeason New Member

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    except assault someone
     
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    Micketto New Member Past Donor

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    I didn't realize anyone paid attention to this guy anymore.
    Still sticking with his "Trayvon didn't do anything" BS.

    And calling Zimmerman a gay pedophile? ffs..... time for him to grow up.
     
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    a lefty homophobe? is that like the mythological black racist?
     
  4. Micketto

    Micketto New Member Past Donor

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    Lol... There are more Loch Ness Monsters than both of those put together.
     
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    Completely false analogy.

    The driver did not smack the bike because of the break check. In fact, he actually slowed due to the break check and STOPPED.

    He ran the guy over because he felt his family was threatened.

    Next fallacy?
     
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    Who can say without the pants catching on fire, that they would get out of their car and talk to a gang of ANGRY bikers surrounding it, as they slash your tires and start banging on the windows, when your family is in it? If you claim you wouldn't drive away and get out of there, you are either a liar or missing part of your brain that controls self preservation.
     
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    When some fools chases a kid at night for no apparent reason, the kid is perfectly right to think it is a boy bumper or mugger after him.

    When a gang of thugs surrounds a man with enough money to own a Range Rover for no apparent reason, he is entitled to think that they intend to rob him. I do not think this is any great stretch of the imagination.
     
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    It was you that called him a gay pedophile... don't push this off on Traygone.
     
  9. Bluesguy

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    And if the driver had gotten out of his vehicle, cold-cocked the biker, jumped on top of him and began beating his head against the asphalt roadway and would not stop would the biker have a right to defend himself and even used deadly force to do so? Let's take you analogy to it's conclusion.
     
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    No. The bikers were the aggressors. Same principle that I am applying in both cases.
     
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    Micketto New Member Past Donor

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    Exactly.

    Start a senseless fight and you get shot or run over by an SUV.
     
  12. Bluesguy

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    So Martin could have killed Zimmerman that night and walked away a free man? The driver could have gotten out of his vehicle and killed the first biker who approached him, before there was the unlawful restraint and physical attack on his vehicle?
     
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    What was he going to kill him with? His barehands.

    He should have never gotten off the freeway.
     
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    There is no testimony or evidence that Zimmerman ever chased Martin. Zimmerman did at a point get out of his truck and run to a "T" in the sidewalk where he had last seen Martin as to regain a visual of his location. There are no statements, no evidence, no testimony, no history and no pattern of behavior that proves or even suggests otherwise. Zimmerman has a history of NOT chasing, NOT detaining and NOT running down people that he perceived as suspicious. Matter of fact Zimmerman was on prior record as saying that he thinks its best not to confront suspicious persons.

    As for 'no apparent reason'. Zimmerman had a long list of reasons actually and all were consistent with the Sanford Police departments Watch program guidelines.


    Respectfully,
     
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    Because the SUV was driving aggressively, and ran over a bunch of kids on bikes. You don't know what that is like on the ground floor. Bikers are a tight bunch. You run over a bunch of us, and you are going to get swarmed like bees. The cops, like everyone else, showed up to watch the squids do stupid (*)(*)(*)(*). It is very entertaining. The cops, like everyone else, were outraged at what occurred. I keep trying to tell you guys... this was not a group of 300 thugs. These are normal people with jobs and families, and a handful of thuggish squids.

    As I said. I trust the investigation will prove me right.
     
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    Blind faith often takes one down a road of misery .
     
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    No doubt. I don't have faith. Just logic, and reason. If cops let it happen, the SUV is almost guaranteed to have started it. The witness testimony that has come out has aligned with my prediction, and nothing else really makes any sense. However, as I said, this is a no lose argument for me. If the SUV being the aggressor doesn't pan out, you still should have waited before condemning innocent people to death, because they were in a group where a few broke traffic rules, and exacted revenge for running people over... but I expect this will be a clean sweep for me. Which will feel particularly groovy as I am the only one on the side of due process.
     
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    Well what does your logic and reason tell you about the lack of charges ? You haven't waited for said evidence to condemn the SUV driver ... You went ahead and started a one man witch hunt. Only thing you have on your side is a unique perspective that has yet been verified by any charges .
     
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    I hope you are not telling me that you and your fellow Bikers try to hog the road in the same manner as they were doing. Most bikers who are riding in groups usually ride 2 x 2 and stay in one lane not all over the road.

    I tell you what that may be true, but in most cases that car is like a giant can of bee killer.

    Sorry, but you are a cop all the time not when its convenient. I hope when this investigation is over that they are cops no more. Cops are suppose to keep law and order and these clowns failed miserably in this case.

    Time will tell.
     
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    He wasn't just there he participated in the wrongdoing.
     
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    More invented BS. There is absolutely no evidence of that.

    What a load of crap. Are you for real? Poor bunch of kids, you mean criminals?

    Are you telling us that you are one of them?

    Yea and gang even more so. Your point?

    You are only underscoring the criminality of what took place.

    Only to you. It is illegal and that is hardly entertaining.

    That is why none of them tried to do anything and waited days to come forth?

    Yes it was, whether you admit or realize it.

    You forgot to mention the criminal records of the multiple offenders.

    Do not hold your breath.
     
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    Because cops are involved. Gonna have to wait to hear their sides.
     
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    You seem to be particularly spiteful of me. You are taking this all way too personally. To address your post:
    Eyewitness testimony is evidence... even if you do not like it.

    A guy that had a criminal record, mostly traffic offenses, was crippled... but the driver was not likely judging them on their records, or what they looked like.

    I have been one of them probably longer than you have been alive. We share a kinship built mostly on our ability to survive you idiot cagers. It is a strong bond.

    There is no gang of 300 stunters in NY.

    I have never denied that there was a criminal and unjustifiable response to the incident. I just said it is to be expected.

    Lots of things are entertaining and illegal. Porn is illegal in some states. It is no less entertaining. It is illegal to take the streets after a football game... still entertaining. Perhaps you should go check out a stunters event. Maybe you will be entertained.

    Some of them participated. I wouldn't call that doing nothing. They talked with their lawyers and union reps before coming forward, and are not talking. Pretty standard. Then the cops have other video that is not on youtube.

    This is from your imaginarium, and that 5 of them were cops... well... that sort of throws that theory out the window, unless you think these cops were all part of the Hollywood stuntz motorcycle gang... lol

    Of the dozens that they have talked to, 4 have seen charges, 1 of them a cop. I expect that to be upgraded to 5 and 2.
     

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