Black History Month - Lecture

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  1. Bowerbird

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    Ok This is a seminar by a British Rapper known as Akala (don’t hold that against him). He is addressing the Oxford Union and although the talk is long it is fascinating and well researched.

    Sadly it is hard to see the slides he is showing but google is available. Even sadder is that many of the talking points he debunks I.e. Africa had no “advanced” civilisations before European colonisation I have heard said on this forum.

    Very much worth watching
     
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    Naysayers that talk of Africa never being civilized have the same agenda today as those pseudo academics of the past. It is done in order to continue the exploitation of the continent by whites, in that whites can then be seen as benevolent and bringing Africa out of its "primitive" ways.

    It's a form of conditioning that icall bubble narrative, the narrative of the white elites, that the populace mimic.
     
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    anne boleyn, wife to henry viii and mother to queen elizabeth the i (see below)
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    the hidden history of great britain is still yet to be fully uncovered. Queen elizabeth was said to be swarthy, had curly hair and bleached her face with egg white, to fit in.
     
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    There is no hidden history.44. Anne Boylen was white.

    The fake narrative is coming from you.
     
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    Anne Boiling may have been white, who ever she was.

    However, I'm referring to Anne Boleyn, the mother of Queen Elizabeth I (another black woman (of European nobility) like the black Madonnas)

    Venetian diplomat Francesco Sanuto wrote that Anne was “not one of the handsomest women in the world; she is of middling stature, swarthy complexion, long neck, wide mouth, a bosom not much raised and eyes which are black and beautiful.”

    White women don't have black eyes

    A black women, much like Beyonce.
     
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    No one mentioned anne boiling.

    Anne Boleyn was a white women

    Yes white women have all the same eye colors as black women, No one has black eyes.

    Swarthy does not mean black


    You are dreaming up crap and it is absolutely wrong
     
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    :applause:
    Well done, you managed to spell her name right.

    Btw, nuh-huh is not a valid rebuttal, you need to try harder and white women don't have black eyes.
     
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    How long will Africa keep blaming white people for the fact that such rampant poverty exist in Africa?

    People are still living like they were in the stone ages in many areas of Africa..... Or indeed, in any black nation.

    So how long does the black race get to blame every shortcoming on the White man?
     
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    Pretty cool fantasy you got going on there.
    Do you have any actual credible evidence to support such a thing?
     
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    How long will you keep blaming black people for the fact that whites colonised Africa?

    People are still living like they were in the stone ages in many areas of usa..... Or indeed, in any white nation, hunters and gather essentially
     
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    What is it you were unaware of exactly?

    And why does the history of my ppl interest you?
     
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    Yes it it because your claim is delusional and you do not have a shred of evidence

    No one has black eyes unless you mean a bruise around the eyes. Women of all colors have the same spectrum of eye color
     
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    Colonization reduced poverty which in turn increased after colonization.
     
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    sorry but
    nuh-huh is not a valid rebuttal, you need to try harder next time.
     
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    A random piocture is not a valid argument.

    Or even an argument at all
     
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    :new:According to the Oxford English Dictionary, to be swarthy is to be of a dark hue; Black or Blackish; dusky.

    Wyatt wrote the Life of Queen Anne Boleigne in response to Nicholas Sander’s attack on Anne Boleyn in 1585. Anne was “taken at that time to have a beauty not so whitely as clear and fresh above all we may esteem, which appeared much more excellent by her favour passing sweet and cheerful.

    the mother of queen elizabeth i was not white :above:, therefore neither could have been queen elizabeth herself.:tears:
     
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    Etymology. Alteration of swarty, from swart +‎ -y, from Old English sweart (“black”).

    tall and slender, with a tiny waist, small bosom and beautiful, long-fingered hands, which it pleased her vanity to display to advantage in a variety of affected poses. She had a swarthy complexion like that of her mother, although she made a habit of whitening it with a lotion made up of egg-whites, powdered egg shell, poppy seeds, borax and alum, which made her face appear white and luminous. She had inherited also Anne Boleyn’s long, thin face, high cheekbones and pointed chin. From her father she had her red naturally curly hair and high, hooked nose.”

    it appears she was not white at all but black. just get over it. americans just cant believe it. we didnt have slavery in england and black folks here were nobility. in england we didnt have an eternal hatred of black folks that white americans have.
     
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    Henry VIII had all images of Anne Boleyn destroyed. He also executed her.

    The only portraits we have of her are by white racists and were painted after her death. Iconoclasts were the organisation that ordered the portraits of all black nobility in England destroyed and repainted as white individuals.
     
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    According to the BBC, she was black.

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    There were many black folks in Tudor England (15-16 century) and they were not slaves. You may have heard of Shakespeare, a great writer of the time, featured many black folk in distinguished positions.

    Some even argue that most of Shakespeares catalogue of work is based on race relations. Anthony and cleo, Othello and merchant of Venice to name but 3.
     
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    I know I know, the history of England is a whitewash. It's been a black country since Cheddar Man.

    Lol!
     
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    It has certainly been whitewashed, to a degree. Just look at all of the israelite religious figures in our churches, all painted as white. Even yahweh has been painted as a white man in the sistine chapel, although that's not England.

    You have to ask yourself, why would the church do that..why would they seek to hide the true identity of Israelites..
     
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    The entire enterprise of Western biblical scholarship, itself the offspring of the Church, along with the rise of classical Western art, its sibling, is ultimately responsible for what has become the normative presentation of biblical characters — and the deity — as white. The foundation of modern biblical scholarship is generally placed within the rise of the Enlightenment movement, a movement I learned to regard as enwhitenment during my theological education at the Howard University School of Divinity. I now also think of it in terms of entitlement. David Hume is an exemplar of the kind of white-supremacist rhetoric and worldview nurtured and disseminated by the so-called Enlightenment, which would rebound to the biblical scholarly enterprise -reconstructingjudaism
     
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    Lols! Way to show you are unaware of the real Africa. Suggest you do not speak that way to most of the African people I know or you might end up taking your teeth home in your hat
     
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