Black History Month - Lecture

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  1. Soupnazi

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    I repeat facts which you cannot refute
     
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    No I can tell that you did not watch it.
     
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    Why are you assuming I was talking about black Africans? In fact I was thinking of the many white South Africans I have met
     
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    Hmmmm I do wonder as the Shakespearean sonnets “dark lady” makes you wonder who he is referring to Elizabeth I. But more likely he was referring to someone of “Moorish” descent since at the time Spain was still under Moorish rule.
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    No you cannot

    yoou just cannot tolerate disagreement
     
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    I thought you were supposed to be an educated person?
     
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    It was since Cleopatra was not white
     
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    You have provided no evidence of her being white. iHave provided evidence that she was described as "black" and "not so whitely".

    Which basically means you've been debunked, again.
     
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    She was greek. The greeks are european and white

    So yes she was that us fact and you know nothing of history
     
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    All proven lies

    I have provided evidence. The image I posted was made of her when she was alive. You haf to claim that none exist but you are proven wrong.

    You provided no evidence but you did post an outright lie abotu the dictionary which I proved with evidence.

    She was never described as black.
     
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    She was half greek and Greeks aren't even white. iHad a greek girlfriend that was very dark with very tight curly hair. Cleo's mother is unknown but since Cleo had a black sister then Cleo's mother could have been African as scholars have postulated.

    Best bet you have is that Cleo was 1/4 white, which as we all know, makes her black considering the white genes are inferior, the most inferior genes of all humans
     
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    She was not half greek she was greek on both sides of her lineage,

    yes greeks are white

    She did not have a black sister

    The best you can up with is fiction which you dreamed up out of thin air
     
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    you have provided no evidence. That picture you posted was not even her mother, the title of the pic is called "The Lady.."

    So, no named portrait. Henry had all of her portraits destroyed, therefore that pic u posted is a fraud.

    Both Anne and her daughter, Lizzy are described in multiple accounts as having dark to black skin.

    Etymology. Alteration of swarty, from swart +‎ -y, from Old English sweart (“black”).

    tall and slender, with a tiny waist, small bosom and beautiful, long-fingered hands, which it pleased her vanity to display to advantage in a variety of affected poses. She had a swarthy complexion like that of her mother, although she made a habit of whitening it with a lotion made up of egg-whites, powdered egg shell, poppy seeds, borax and alum, which made her face appear white and luminous. She had inherited also Anne Boleyn’s long, thin face, high cheekbones and pointed chin. From her father she had her red naturally curly hair and high, hooked nose.”
     
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    Yes I have provided evidence you have not

    " The lady " is established as Anne Boleyn

    Henry did Not have all of her portraits destroyed. As usual you simply dream up garbage.

    It proves she was white and you can only repeat proven lies

    She was never described as black and you had to \deliberate misquote and post falsehoods about the dictionary. Swarthy did not and does not mean black

    I have evidence, you have lies
     
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    She was half greek and Greeks aren't even white. Clearly you've never been there in your life. Many Greeks have curly hair and burnt skin, making them brown.

    Cleo's mother is unknown but since Cleo had a black sister then Cleo's mother could have been African as scholars have postulated.


    Queen Cleopatra was a descendant of Ptolemy, the Macedonian general who ruled Egypt after Alexander the Great.

    But remains of the queen's sister Princess Arsinoe, found in Ephesus, Turkey, indicate that her mother had an "African" skeleton.

    Experts have described the results as "a real sensation." -bbc
     
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    Greeks are white

    She was greek on both sides not just one

    She did not have a black sister
     
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    No you have provided a fake picture of a random known as "The Lady". Not Anne.

    That's because Henry had all of her portraits destroyed because he didn't want her looks to be remembered.

    She was never described as white and you had to deliberate misquote and post falsehoods about the me. Swarthy literally mean black in German, which is where the word comes from, much like Spaniards call black folk negri, Germans called black folk Schwarze (swarthy in old English)



    I have evidence, all you have bad spelling.
     
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    Clearly you've never been there in your life. Many Greeks have curly hair and burnt skin, making them brown.

    But remains of the queen's sister Princess Arsinoe, found in Ephesus, Turkey, indicate that her mother had an "African" skeleton. -bbc


    Cleo was likely 1/4 white which makes her not white at all since white genes are the least dominant of all humans
     
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    Wrong.

    The title is irrelevant it was drawn from her in life and that is established history which you cannot challenge and it proves you wrong.

    Henry did not have all of her portraits destroyed. Again you made that up

    Swarthy does not mean black in english and I posted fact

    You misquoted and posted a bald faced lie about the oxford dictionary. Schwarze is not swarthy in old englsh anogther made up claim from you

    You have nothing but humilaition and defeat I have facts and evidence
     
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    They are white
    I have been there you never have been
    Cleopatra was greek on both sides.

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    No, you have provided a fake picture of a random known as "The Lady".

    That's because Henry commissioned all of her portraits destroyed. Only two images survived and one is lost. The only image is a coin which shows she had a wide nose and thick lips.

    She was never described as white and you had to deliberate misquote and post falsehoods about the me. Swarthy means black, in German (the root word, meaning where the word comes from), it is Schwarze, much like Spaniards call black folk negri, Germans called black folk Schwarze (swarthy in old English)



    I have evidence, all you have bad spelling.
     
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    greeks are brown. You may be referring to white slaves in Greece brought in from the north.

    Cleos mother is disputed but Cleo's sister was black.

    The most prominent gaps are found in Cleopatra’s mother’s identity and her grandmother’s. In 2009, a group of BBC presenters/archaeologists proposed, based on analysis of a body claimed to be that of Arsinoe, Cleopatra’s sister, that their mother “had an ‘African’ skeleton.” It has also variously been argued that her paternal grandmother was indigenous Egyptian and so, potentially “Black”.
     
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    So it's all about your conspiracy theory
    What truth?
    Make fun of conspiracy theories
     
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    So the black people you know get violent over mere words? Do you that because of how they were raised, or are they inherently violent? If I said what you said, the people on this board who literally hunt for anything that might be remotely racist would begin their rapid fire insults pointed in my direction. Also, I highly doubt any black people you know would be aware of the real Africa.

    Anyway, I’m glad I don’t know the violent black people you know.
     
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